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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: trophyhunt on June 01, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
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I have diesel poring out from the bottom of my fuel pump, the mechanic cannot see exactly where from. He has done all that he can or wants to do, he has seen some mouse nest but can't find where the diesel is leaking from. It's all the way against the fire panel. I died in packwood moving my dad from cowichi, life sucks right now. My truck is stuck in packwood and I really need a good mechanic. He's going to look one more time but says I probably need to take it to the dealer, looks like I might have to refinance the damn house to pay for this. Anyone know a great mechanic that might have a clue on what to do, or wants to fix it? Thanks guys. Way too much on my mind to get these options for our special permit system on paper to give to wdfw when I go witness the draw. I will try though. It's an 06 2500 high output engine
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Sorry to hear that man. Hit up Coach with a pm. He is an absolute magician on all vehicles and is as straight of a shooter as you will ever meet. He will treat you fair.
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Do you have AAA ?
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What year is the truck? I have worked on my Duramax alot over the years. I have learned from the Dieselplace forum.
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Sorry to hear that man. Hit up Coach with a pm. He is an absolute magician on all vehicles and is as straight of a shooter as you will ever meet. He will treat you fair.
The challenge with that is getting it from Packwood to Seattle....
:yike:
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No aaa
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My dad has a car dolly, would you think it would work? Thanks I will seek out coach
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I would post on dieselplace.com/forum in the section that applies to your year of truck. You might get some suggestions to follow up on. I know there are some fuel lines that can have issues in my year of Duramax which is a 2003.
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2006 2500 gmc, higher output diesel with 111,000 miles
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Does it leak while just sitting there.....or when you try and turn it over?? I broke a high pressure line on my dodge once and it dumped diesel everywhere. It was 100 times worse when I tried to start it. After I figured it out...it was a really easy fix. My engine was soaked in diesel and smelled like crap for weeks.
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I would post on dieselplace.com/forum in the section that applies to your year of truck. You might get some suggestions to follow up on. I know there are some fuel lines that can have issues in my year of Duramax which is a 2003.
thank you
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My Uncle has shop in Toledo, would be closer than Seattle. He works on all kinds of vehicles, reasonable rates and Quality work. Marcelo's Auto Repair 1-360-864-6524. Hardest part might be getting it there, but definatley easier than Seattle.
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Only leaks when its pressurized
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Only leaks when its pressurized
have someone turn it over when you are under the hood. Make sure to wear glasses and keep your mouth closed. Turn it over and you will find your leak. Could be a really easy fix.
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Only leaks when its pressurized
have someone turn it over when you are under the hood. Make sure to wear glasses and keep your mouth closed. Turn it over and you will find your leak. Could be a really easy fix.
we have done that, this mechanic has a mirror and small camera he uses to look inside valves. He's trying one more time
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One thread I found. More to look at.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63-gm-diesel-engines/40-duramax-second-generation-2004-5-2005-lly/524042-fuel-leaking-around-injector-please-help.html
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Maybe find and ask a local diesel truck mechanic for log trucks. Isn't Walsh down there hauling chips out of the Hampton Mill ( if it's still there ) Some of those guys are really, really good at finding and figuring things out ...wish you the best of luck...
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Thanks for helping guys. Mechanic called me back, thinks the injector pump is broke. I have a friend who might have a car trailer
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First off, thanks again to all you guys for the help. Bigjohn, thanks for the reference but I'm going to send the truck to Coach to look at. I signed up for AAA and the towing will be free, of course its a yearly fee but you can't beat it. I sure hope it's not a broken injector pump, we will see. Coach is busy so it will take a couple weeks to get an answer but he will figure it out for sure. Thanks again you guys, good to have good people to talk to!
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As I recall them trucks have the same Bosch cp3 high pressure pump a Dodge cummins has, with just some slight difference. That and I don't believe Chevy runs a lift pump like dodge does. Pretty sure they let the Bosch do all the pumping.
Them are rebuildable. Expensive to replace though.
Maybe blew a freeze plug out of the pump?
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Don't worry we will take care of it ....
. I'm glad aaa worked out . I will get a look in the next few days and see if you need to find a banker ! :chuckle: I saw one of those trucks in a magazine once and I'm purdy sure i can fix it .
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As I recall them trucks have the same Bosch cp3 high pressure pump a Dodge cummins has, with just some slight difference. That and I don't believe Chevy runs a lift pump like dodge does. Pretty sure they let the Bosch do all the pumping.
Them are rebuildable. Expensive to replace though.
Maybe blew a freeze plug out of the pump?
That's what the mechanic told me in Packwood, he found pieces of metal with his magnet where the pump is. He now thinks the pump is broke, and it is a cp3 pump. It is being towed today to Coach's shop, this has been a real bummer but I heard coach is a magician with vehicles so I feel a bit better. The Auburn dealer wanted 2,707 to fix it! :yike: Thanks to coach for taking on this job, I know he is very busy. :tup:
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Every time I think I want to get a diesel truck I see one of these threads and the quote of $2707 to fix and I run back to my trusty under powered gas p.u..
Yall make sure and wave as you are speeding by me as I go 30mph uphill towing my travel trailer.
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Enjoy the horn porn at Coach's shop! Pretty amazing display of horns..
He will get you hooked up! Have no doubt..
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Just got a 2014 F150 with eco boost. Happy to see 20 mpg and plenty of power. Sure seems like diesels have alot of problems lately (my pops had problems with a brand new F350 recently) and the repair costs are high. That coupled with the extra cost at the pump were enough to turn me away. Best wishes on a cheap and easy fix trophy
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Well, coach has diagnosed my problem, injector pump broke inside! I get to pick my truck up Friday, thanks coach, will see ya Friday.
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no problem ..... as we say its just money ! :chuckle: could have been way worse without AAA towing .
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no problem ..... as we say its just money ! :chuckle: could have been way worse without AAA towing .
AAA definitely saved me a few bucks! What time you open on Friday?
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7 am !
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Was it the cp3?. might look at getting a aftermarket lift pump when you have the cash. It keeps the injector pump from having to work so hard. It also filters air and water from the diesel fuel. The stock filtration sytem only filters to about five micron but a aftermarket lift pump will filter to two micron.
I'm having to replace injectors on my 04 GMC 2500 diesel and I went ahead and put a lift pump on it first.
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Was it the cp3?. might look at getting a aftermarket lift pump when you have the cash. It keeps the injector pump from having to work so hard. It also filters air and water from the diesel fuel. The stock filtration sytem only filters to about five micron but a aftermarket lift pump will filter to two micron.
I'm having to replace injectors on my 04 GMC 2500 diesel and I went ahead and put a lift pump on it first.
what did it cost?
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the cp3 is the hi pressure pump . we always run oe filters and stay away from veggie oil . change filters every 15-20 k for good measure.
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The air dog lift pump was right at $600. Beats paying $4000 for replacing injectors.
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Was it the cp3?. might look at getting a aftermarket lift pump when you have the cash. It keeps the injector pump from having to work so hard. It also filters air and water from the diesel fuel. The stock filtration sytem only filters to about five micron but a aftermarket lift pump will filter to two micron.
I'm having to replace injectors on my 04 GMC 2500 diesel and I went ahead and put a lift pump on it first.
Actually the AC Delco (Racor) is a 2 micron coalescing filter. So not only do they do a great job of filtering the fuel they also trap and keep water from getting into your system. The stock filters are as good as they get. That's all I run. By the way. A lot of people swear by WIX filters. But their fuel filters for the Duramax are lousy. Tons of info on this stuff over on the duramax forum. The Air Dog and Fass pumps do help with the lift pumps. But they are also known to have their own problems.
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Is the Napa Gold a good filter? That is what I usually use and I change my filter every other oil change.
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Napa gold is a WIX filter. You can find the AC delco or Racor which is the same thing for about $28 online.
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I usually buy 4 at a time. The last batch I got through B line out of Texas. Heres a link to the sale going on at Dmax store. $27.99
http://dmaxstore.com/products/?route=product/product&product_id=170
The stock air filter is as good as it get for filtration and flow up to 500 hp too. A lot of guys like to run KN filters. But they aren't a good filter for diesels and let a lot of crud through.
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I don't trust a system that's suppose to filter water and fuel in the same filter especially with the injector issues lb7 engines have
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I put the CAT Filter adapter on my 2003. The CAT filters are cheap and much easier to spin on.
http://lincolndieselspecialties.com/i-20984439-cat-adapter-kit.html
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Thanks for that site Hntnfsh, bad azz. I've been looking for shocks for months and couldn't find a set of 4. they have them.
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I put the CAT Filter adapter on my 2003. The CAT filters are cheap and much easier to spin on.
http://lincolndieselspecialties.com/i-20984439-cat-adapter-kit.html
What do you use to trap the water?
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I don't trust a system that's suppose to filter water and fuel in the same filter especially with the injector issues lb7 engines have
I do. The factory filters were upgraded because of the issues with the LB7 injectors. After spending how many 10s of millions of dollars on replacing injectors for people do you think GM would take a chance on using an inadequate filter, again? Then throw in the millions more they probably spent with racor coming up with an improved filter. I feel pretty good about them. Especially after doing a lot of research.
Also, don't forget the LB7 injectors are a lot different than the newer ones. Newer model injector issues are few and far between.
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Well, coach has diagnosed my problem, injector pump broke inside!
I've replaced a few injector pumps in my work trucks over the years (all 7.3 L Internationals in various forms) and I remember having one do the same as yours. Start the truck up and it would just dump the fuel all over the place.
Injector pumps aren't cheap, but they're cheaper than a new truck. Even with the added expense of fuel and repairs a diesel will pay for it's self if you keep it long enough and take good care of it. If nothing else, a few big repair jobs on a diesel engine will make replacing a $3000 transmission in a smaller car look like a pretty good deal! :chuckle:
Glad you found a good mechanic. They're hard to find sometimes but worth every penny when you need them!
Andrew
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Well said, with the cost of new trucks this will be my last big rig.60,000.00 for new ?? They are fn crazy! And finding a mechanic that is honest is priceless!
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Well said, with the cost of new trucks this will be my last big rig.60,000.00 for new ?? They are fn crazy! And finding a mechanic that is honest is priceless!
Ya Coach is my hunting buddy, but he is as honest as they come. I've seen him work on numerous cars that he could have billed the customer for 5 hours but only charged them for two!!!! That is rare to find..
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The injector pump is what finally killed my 6.9 F250. Loved that thing, but the pump was about as valuable as the truck. If I had to do it over again, I would have just put in the new pump. That trucks replacement has been flawless though.
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she purrs like a kitten ! now I just need to get her to stop !
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Good job coach!
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she purrs like a kitten ! now I just need to get her to stop !
:chuckle: I had a truck do that to me one time too. I had to manually disengage the fuel shutoff solenoid on a 5.9L Cummins that just wouldn't turn off. I told the driver that he should just reach up in there and disengage it at every stop, but he didn't like that idea. It started like a champ though! :tup:
Andrew
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Was it the cp3?. might look at getting a aftermarket lift pump when you have the cash. It keeps the injector pump from having to work so hard. It also filters air and water from the diesel fuel. The stock filtration sytem only filters to about five micron but a aftermarket lift pump will filter to two micron.
I'm having to replace injectors on my 04 GMC 2500 diesel and I went ahead and put a lift pump on it first.
Actually the AC Delco (Racor) is a 2 micron coalescing filter. So not only do they do a great job of filtering the fuel they also trap and keep water from getting into your system. The stock filters are as good as they get. That's all I run. By the way. A lot of people swear by WIX filters. But their fuel filters for the Duramax are lousy. Tons of info on this stuff over on the duramax forum. The Air Dog and Fass pumps do help with the lift pumps. But they are also known to have their own problems.
Check out this link on the filtration issue
http://www.maxxtorque.com/2008/04/the-black-white-and-greys-of-duramax.html?showall=1&m=1
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Great article! People complain about a $30 filter. And try to find cheaper ones. But that's usually what they get. A cheaper filter that doesn't do what its supposed to. I think most people average 15,000 miles or less a year on their rig. So about $2.50 a month seams like pretty cheap insurance on a $20,000-$50,000 rig.
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Different kind of won't stop....I shoulda been clear .
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Honestly all the filter hype can be dismissed for the most part if a guy is anal about changing filters and running quality fuel . just because a station is hi volume doesn't mean they care for there tanks.I recommend that a guy talks with his local pump about how they care for there tanks . I had a water issue with a pretty hi volume station once because the owner was cheap , changed to a different station and never had issues . the bad thing was it was the station that the dealer was using to fill your first tank with . I think Trophyhunt is right on line changing filters every other service .
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Different kind of won't stop....I shoulda been clear .
Wow! Fortunately that's an easy fix. Those trucks are known for getting 150,000 -200,000 miles out of the original pads. What pads have you had good luck using as replacements?
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I really like the adaptive ones on most stuff but i have had good luck with power stop severe duty on the bigger trucks . I used to run the oe gm pads but have found these to have better stopping power when used with there rotors .
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These
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Allot of good info here.
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That is an interesting article about filters, as coach said, I do change my filter on a regular basis. The article is mostly talking about injectors, my problem was the Pump. It didn't mention much about the pump but I'm sure the water not only kills injectors but pumps as well? I wish the duramax had a simple way to drain water out of the system, I think you can remove the bottom plug on the filter and let some fluid run out but that is a messy job. Hopefully my injectors are good for a long time, we will see.
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Different kind of won't stop....I shoulda been clear .
:chuckle: looks good for another 30,000 :4w:
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That is an interesting article about filters, as coach said, I do change my filter on a regular basis. The article is mostly talking about injectors, my problem was the Pump. It didn't mention much about the pump but I'm sure the water not only kills injectors but pumps as well? I wish the duramax had a simple way to drain water out of the system, I think you can remove the bottom plug on the filter and let some fluid run out but that is a messy job. Hopefully my injectors are good for a long time, we will see.
Seems pretty easy on my 06. You can buy a kit to install on your fender well that allows good access. You have to cut a piece out of your fender well and install the filler plate. Think a couple screws. Makes for real easy access for filter changes etc.
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Are you meaning access to unscrew the plug that is on the bottom of the fuel filter?
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One more thing that was interesting about the article, it says fuel additives that break down water are bad. It allows water to get past the filter? Maybe only certain additives do this?
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