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Title: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: bearpaw on June 07, 2015, 01:11:56 PM
For all the Obama lovers who elected the tyrant and said he would never go after our guns and constitutional rights:

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Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech

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It's happening again— President Obama is using his imperial pen and telephone to curb your rights and bypass Congress through executive action. Even as news reports have been highlighting the gun control provisions of the Administration's "Unified Agenda" of regulatory objectives (see accompanying story), the Obama State Department has been quietly moving ahead with a proposal that could censor online speech related to firearms. This latest regulatory assault, published in the June 3 issue of the Federal Register, is as much an affront to the First Amendment as it is to the Second. Your action is urgently needed to ensure that online blogs, videos, and web forums devoted to the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition do not become subject to prior review by State Department bureaucrats before they can be published.

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With the new proposal published on June 3, the State Department claims to be "clarifying" the rules concerning "technical data" posted online or otherwise "released" into the "public domain." To the contrary, however, the proposal would institute a massive new prior restraint on free speech. This is because all such releases would require the "authorization" of the government before they occurred. The cumbersome and time-consuming process of obtaining such authorizations, moreover, would make online communication about certain technical aspects of firearms and ammunition essentially impossible.

more here: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150605/stop-obamas-planned-gag-order-on-firearm-related-speech
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: trophyhunt on June 07, 2015, 01:15:19 PM
This is crazy, what a turd.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 07, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
So under his proposal reloading data would be censored because it details manufacture of ammo.   :puke:
What a slime!
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: 2labs on June 07, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
Wow! Time to download Hogdons entire web site.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: jay.sharkbait on June 08, 2015, 01:01:29 PM
ITAR is a nightmare.

Eventually it will be used to regulate anything that could possibly be used on a rifle, aircraft, boat etc.

Nuts and bolts, paint, you name it

Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 08, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
I would guess it would apply to the entertainment industry (movies) quite a bit.  Any scene showing firearm/weapon operation or military tactic would have to be approved by the 'state'.  Lose quite a fortune for all those film studios/actors.  You'd think even the hollyweirders would be making noise about this.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: jay.sharkbait on June 08, 2015, 01:33:13 PM
All this from the folks giving MANPADS to terrorists.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 08, 2015, 01:52:34 PM
He's trying to take away all of our rights; the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th - There's not a whole lot left when you get done with those. And Sec. State Kerry was a sailor. What the heck is he thinking about all this?

What's interesting to me is that this is going through State instead of Justice. The only time State has anything to do with American citizens is usually when they're overseas. Almost never does it have to do with anything going on inside the US. There's some reason he's doing it this way. I haven't quite figured it out yet.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 08, 2015, 02:02:13 PM
He's trying to take away all of our rights; the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th - There's not a whole lot left when you get done with those. And Sec. State Kerry was a sailor. What the heck is he thinking about all this?

What's interesting to me is that this is going through State instead of Justice. The only time State has anything to do with American citizens is usually when they're overseas. Almost never does it have to do with anything going on inside the US. There's some reason he's doing it this way. I haven't quite figured it out yet.
It's international is why State is concerned.  If there was a separate internet that could only be accessed in the US and only by citizens, I don't think it would apply.  Then he'd put DOJ/DHS on it instead of State.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 08, 2015, 02:12:58 PM
He's trying to take away all of our rights; the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th - There's not a whole lot left when you get done with those. And Sec. State Kerry was a sailor. What the heck is he thinking about all this?

What's interesting to me is that this is going through State instead of Justice. The only time State has anything to do with American citizens is usually when they're overseas. Almost never does it have to do with anything going on inside the US. There's some reason he's doing it this way. I haven't quite figured it out yet.
It's international is why State is concerned.  If there was a separate internet that could only be accessed in the US and only by citizens, I don't think it would apply.  Then he'd put DOJ/DHS on it instead of State.
I think it's outside of their jurisdiction. If Anything then, it should be the FCC. Regardless, it's unbelievable that he thinks he'll get away with it.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: stevemiller on June 08, 2015, 11:10:00 PM
Stop Obamas PLANNED gag order?Hey I want him out as much as the next but can someone please explain to me that if this is a planned (meaning hasnt happened yet)Why isnt this speech viral already?Who did he give this speach to?Who was invited to hear this speach?
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: Skillet on June 08, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
Stop Obamas PLANNED gag order?Hey I want him out as much as the next but can someone please explain to me that if this is a planned (meaning hasnt happened yet)Why isnt this speech viral already?Who did he give this speach to?Who was invited to hear this speach?

I take it you haven't read the article...  :chuckle:

It's about limiting YOUR freedom of speech to talk about the technicalities of weapons and ammunition, not a speech Obama gave and doesn't want repeated.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: stevemiller on June 08, 2015, 11:24:29 PM
no havnt read it,read the title to this and started looking for a video.sorry
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: wence5 on June 12, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
The State Department is taking public comment on this issue until July 7th (I think). You can send an email to DDTCPublicComments@state.gov subjest line ITAR Amendment.  I sent off a comment yesterday.
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: Utah on June 13, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
I'm sorry guys.  But if we all say f'you and do it anyway.. What the hell are they gonna do?  Nothing....  There isn't enough room in Jail for all of us...   
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: huntnphool on June 13, 2015, 11:50:37 PM
Where is mags with the liberal, progressive, smoke and mirrors spin?
Title: Re: Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech
Post by: Cap.Silver on June 14, 2015, 12:32:57 AM
Has my location anything to do with not being able to open the link ? Tried several times but it won't let me. I'm in Germany rigt now-maybe it has already began ?That is bad news anyway you look at  it.
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