Post by: mp.hunter on June 15, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
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Post by: Gobble Doc on June 15, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 15, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
I have a 2003 Tacoma. 4WD. Quad cab. 325K and going strong. I have had to replace alternator at 300K and just recently a radiator and valve cover gaskets. Other than that it has worked like a clock.
How much?
Post by: Woodchuck on June 15, 2015, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: Gobble Doc on June 15, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Post by: mp.hunter on June 15, 2015, 12:43:09 PM
Oops. Just saying that I like my Tacoma and have had a good experience but not for sale. I was reading the OPs text as looking for opinions. But, I should have clarified. Sorry for the ambiguity.
I got it, no worries. I have seen a few around in the 02-03 time frame with anywhere from 90-150,000 on them for about 10-15k, just wondered if this truck would be a better route than lets say a 05-06 Colorado with 85,000 miles for a similar price
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Post by: Woodchuck on June 15, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
Yes, without question.Oops. Just saying that I like my Tacoma and have had a good experience but not for sale. I was reading the OPs text as looking for opinions. But, I should have clarified. Sorry for the ambiguity.
I got it, no worries. I have seen a few around in the 02-03 time frame with anywhere from 90-150,000 on them for about 10-15k, just wondered if this truck would be a better route than lets say a 05-06 Colorado with 85,000 miles for a similar price
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Post by: DRobnsn on June 15, 2015, 12:56:47 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 15, 2015, 01:00:27 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on June 15, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
I have a 2003 Tacoma. 4WD. Quad cab. 325K and going strong. I have had to replace alternator at 300K and just recently a radiator and valve cover gaskets. Other than that it has worked like a clock.
I guess I have a lemon. Same year, only 225K and rear u-joint and AC idler have gone south. :chuckle:
And I'm on my third battery.
Post by: JBar on June 15, 2015, 01:40:14 PM
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Post by: mp.hunter on June 15, 2015, 01:44:03 PM
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Post by: Jason on June 15, 2015, 02:39:15 PM
Fuel milage was about 22mpg, and my Tundra is 16mpg.
Post by: syoungs on June 15, 2015, 02:50:08 PM
There was an issue with rear leafs and with the undercoating not being applied properly, probably should research that some. Not deal breakers but good to know about if your going to tow.
Post by: MtnMuley on June 15, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 15, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 15, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 15, 2015, 03:17:38 PM
love love love my tundra! :IBCOOL:
Hopefully you got rid of those racing slicks you brought over to the dryside for a November hunt......... :chuckle:
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 15, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
did i ever tell you about when i got all sideways going around McLaughlin canyon?? Thank god for chains!! lollove love love my tundra! :IBCOOL:
Hopefully you got rid of those racing slicks you brought over to the dryside for a November hunt......... :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on June 15, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on June 16, 2015, 08:45:14 PM
i currently have a 2000 with the same drivetrain, with all the options(other than the locker).
i tow my little jet sled with mine, and have towed 16' and 18' aluminum boats(lighter ones) with it. it does the job but it's not my first choice in tow rigs. my boat is around 1000lbs and that 4 banger is sort of anemic. i'm actually considering stepping up to a full size truck for towing/hauling and buying a commuter car to drive daily. wish i could trade up to an older tundra but the prices are outrageous unless you feel like buying something with 300,000 miles on it.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 23, 2015, 07:35:37 PM
Just wish the tundras werent so dang pricey. I've been looking trying to find an 05 or 06 double cab, they are hard to find, even harder to find one with a bench seat in front. Feel like I should just get an F150, but the Toyotas are so reliable.
I just bought an 05 and it took me 6 months to find mine....they hold their value for a reason...there the best trucks out there
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on June 23, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 25, 2015, 07:34:26 AM
I have a 2003 Tacoma. 4WD. Quad cab. 325K and going strong. I have had to replace alternator at 300K and just recently a radiator and valve cover gaskets. Other than that it has worked like a clock.
I guess I have a lemon. Same year, only 225K and rear u-joint and AC idler have gone south. :chuckle:
And I'm on my third battery.
:yike: what a hunk of junk.
My '99 4Runner is really running rough at 210,000 miles...I actually need to pull the throttle body and clean the idle air control valve :'( what a heap.
Post by: Old Man Yager on June 26, 2015, 12:17:30 PM
Post by: thinkingman on July 07, 2015, 09:58:48 PM
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 08, 2015, 06:45:36 AM
I am looking at the recall notices on my desk right now from Toyota (finally!) for the rear suspension that I fought with them for years to replace(Apparently I was crazy then but now, not so much) and the frame rust issue.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
What year, make and model? Please :hello:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 09, 2015, 04:00:38 PM
Post by: shadowless_nite on July 10, 2015, 11:18:11 PM
:yeah: i was told when i bought mine that theres a recall coming for the rear suspension for my truck
I'm toyota tech for a living, went dealership route and now at a mom and pops shop. From my ties in the dealership it looks like the rear leafs have been cracking and breaking off. What makes this a recall and not a tsb is that once they break they are tending to get caught in the wheel or ground and puncture the gas tank. And they have actually seen exactly that at the dealer. This would be for 05 and up tacomas. Everyone should eventually be getting a letter in the mail for notification, followed by another letter to let you know when to come in.
1st Gen tacomas have the frame tsb, most have been inspected by now at one point in time or another. Though rare I have seen this personally when first released. These trucks were obviously from corrosive areas every nut, bolt, bracket etc would have rust on it. Usually towards the back end of the cab where the frame starts to curve upwards.
Post by: shadowless_nite on July 10, 2015, 11:30:45 PM
1st Gen tacomas (95-2004) 4wd models come with either 2.7 or 3.4l engines. If you plan to tow anything get the 3.4 5vz. The 2.7 has cheaper maintenance cost due to not having a timing belt that needs servicing, instead it is chain driven. 3.4 is belt driven and will need serviced eventually I would recommend a water pump when you do either oem toyota or Aisin (unbadged toyota).
Most electrical engine components are denso brand from factory and would recommend replacing with such. Misfire codes are usually from neglected plugs/ wrong ones or direct ignition coil failure. Can result in lean codes as well.
People like to steal the cats off tacomas and usually leads people to replace with cheap aftermarket that eventually leads to cat related codes or o2 codes. Peak under and see if a universal cat has been welded on.
There's a bit of other misc facts, mostly maintenance related but these come to mind the soonest and nothing that's a deal breaker. If you have any other questions feel free to pm me and I'm more than willing to convince someone to get a toyota lol
Post by: Taco280AI on July 10, 2015, 11:57:31 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on July 11, 2015, 03:42:33 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on July 11, 2015, 03:44:19 AM
People like to steal the cats off tacomas and usually leads people to replace with cheap aftermarket that eventually leads to cat related codes or o2 codes. Peak under and see if a universal cat has been welded on.
This is good advice for ANY vehicle. I bought a Tundra off a dude who had his cat stolen. The sillyhead went to a Chevy stealership of all places to have insurance put on a replacement cat :bash: It cost him $1,000 off his asking price in the haggling negotiation. :IBCOOL:
Post by: Taco280AI on July 11, 2015, 06:34:09 AM
Post by: shadowless_nite on July 11, 2015, 07:45:02 PM
Does the "sport" ever come in 4wd, or is it always 2wd, like a Prerunner?
There are so many trim levels it's hard to keep track of them.... I believe most 4wds are sr5 with various level of trim, atleast for early ones . for example some sr5 trim levels have power options, some dont, some only have power windows/locks not mirrors. The 2nd Gen is more consistent with "standard" features according to trim level. True Prerunners will always have 2wd with the bigger motor and be slightly lifted and look like a 4wd. And there are base level 4wd models with non power options and base exterior trim so non painted bumpers, no chrome, no alloy wheels.
Post by: T-Dozzer on July 20, 2015, 10:21:18 PM
:yeah: i was told when i bought mine that theres a recall coming for the rear suspension for my truck
I'm toyota tech for a living, went dealership route and now at a mom and pops shop. From my ties in the dealership it looks like the rear leafs have been cracking and breaking off. What makes this a recall and not a tsb is that once they break they are tending to get caught in the wheel or ground and puncture the gas tank. And they have actually seen exactly that at the dealer. This would be for 05 and up tacomas. Everyone should eventually be getting a letter in the mail for notification, followed by another letter to let you know when to come in.
1st Gen tacomas have the frame tsb, most have been inspected by now at one point in time or another. Though rare I have seen this personally when first released. These trucks were obviously from corrosive areas every nut, bolt, bracket etc would have rust on it. Usually towards the back end of the cab where the frame starts to curve upwards.
My 06 seems to have leaf sag. Anyone else having this issue. When I told toyota this they said it was the first they have heard of it. If they don't replace both leaf packs, I'm going to pay schwabs to do it.
Cheap Chinese steel and poor design.
Post by: pashok23 on July 20, 2015, 11:56:29 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 21, 2015, 09:00:42 PM
:yeah: i was told when i bought mine that theres a recall coming for the rear suspension for my truck
I'm toyota tech for a living, went dealership route and now at a mom and pops shop. From my ties in the dealership it looks like the rear leafs have been cracking and breaking off. What makes this a recall and not a tsb is that once they break they are tending to get caught in the wheel or ground and puncture the gas tank. And they have actually seen exactly that at the dealer. This would be for 05 and up tacomas. Everyone should eventually be getting a letter in the mail for notification, followed by another letter to let you know when to come in.
1st Gen tacomas have the frame tsb, most have been inspected by now at one point in time or another. Though rare I have seen this personally when first released. These trucks were obviously from corrosive areas every nut, bolt, bracket etc would have rust on it. Usually towards the back end of the cab where the frame starts to curve upwards.
My 06 seems to have leaf sag. Anyone else having this issue. When I told toyota this they said it was the first they have heard of it. If they don't replace both leaf packs, I'm going to pay schwabs to do it.
Cheap Chinese steel and poor design.
There's a TSB on some years for leafs. They replace the 3 pack with a 4 pack. If your year is covered it'll lift the rear slightly. Google rear leaf TSB.
Post by: thinkingman on July 24, 2015, 06:25:30 AM
Pm me:yeah: i was told when i bought mine that theres a recall coming for the rear suspension for my truck
I'm toyota tech for a living, went dealership route and now at a mom and pops shop. From my ties in the dealership it looks like the rear leafs have been cracking and breaking off. What makes this a recall and not a tsb is that once they break they are tending to get caught in the wheel or ground and puncture the gas tank. And they have actually seen exactly that at the dealer. This would be for 05 and up tacomas. Everyone should eventually be getting a letter in the mail for notification, followed by another letter to let you know when to come in.
1st Gen tacomas have the frame tsb, most have been inspected by now at one point in time or another. Though rare I have seen this personally when first released. These trucks were obviously from corrosive areas every nut, bolt, bracket etc would have rust on it. Usually towards the back end of the cab where the frame starts to curve upwards.
My 06 seems to have leaf sag. Anyone else having this issue. When I told toyota this they said it was the first they have heard of it. If they don't replace both leaf packs, I'm going to pay schwabs to do it.
Cheap Chinese steel and poor design.
Post by: Taco280AI on July 26, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
Post by: carvermoe on July 29, 2015, 08:02:04 PM
2003 151,00 miles. Very good shape, runs great, automatic. Great price, 7500.00
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on July 29, 2015, 08:20:40 PM
Post by: xxlx7 on July 29, 2015, 08:25:46 PM
All and all tacomas are a sweet truck, and you won't be disappointed.
Post by: mikeybuck on July 29, 2015, 09:32:32 PM
I own a 03 ex cab 5 speed manual, 3.4 v6, 190k. Just gas and go.
I tow a 17ft alumaweld free drifter with it. Truck handles the load fine. I don't win any races going up big hills but most the time I can hold the speed limit.
Only thing I wish I could change is...I would love to have a first gen double cab,...with a manual transmission, with 4.0 power!
Post by: thinkingman on July 29, 2015, 10:47:18 PM
So trd sports come in 2wd or 4wd, whatever you want. sr5 is the initial build package after a base model Tacoma. The leaf spring recall, Toyota hasn't came out with a repair or what they will do yet. A lot of shadowless's recommendations are right on the dot, the frame inspections, I have seen two vehicles need it, one was an older model that Toyota did the buy back on, the customers were going to sell it to a friend for $1500, he got under to grease the driveline and saw rust perforations, and called me. when the Toyota rep came out they bought it back after about a month of waiting for $9400. Craziest deal for them I'd ever seen. The other one just came to my dealership two days ago, and the customer chose to replace the frame, which is a long drawn out process at a body shop and not at our shop. usually takes a couple months. I've seen a lot of rusty frames on every make of truck, and a lot of them worse than Toyota frames. Toyota still builds a superior product to most, and steps up to the plate a lot more for minor issues that can be more of nuisances than serious issues. Tacoma in general are lower cost maintenance trucks, aside of normal services, make sure and change your diff fluids every 30k, I don't care if its freeway miles or towing, just do it. the 4.0 is a awesome engine. Water pumps are common, rodents love all Toyota wires. I've seen a lot of front differential issues, there is a tsb for 08-13 that also fixes 06, 07 and 14.They do not step up to the plate for minor or major issues.
All and all tacomas are a sweet truck, and you won't be disappointed.
Leaf springs that go flat in under 50k miles and ride on the frame rails while Toyota denies that there could possibly be a flaw in one of their vehicles for 5 more years then finally issues a recall that, 6 months later, is still not able to be implemented due to lack of sourcing of springs that actually spring.....That's not stepping up to the plate.
The list goes on.
Post by: SkookumHntr on July 29, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
i had a brand new 2010 f150 and traded it in on a 05 tundra! Like the tundra way better ! They are hard to find tho!Just wish the tundras werent so dang pricey. I've been looking trying to find an 05 or 06 double cab, they are hard to find, even harder to find one with a bench seat in front. Feel like I should just get an F150, but the Toyotas are so reliable.
I just bought an 05 and it took me 6 months to find mine....they hold their value for a reason...there the best trucks out there
Post by: xxlx7 on July 30, 2015, 05:52:53 PM
Leaf springs that go flat in under 50k miles and ride on the frame rails while Toyota denies that there could possibly be a flaw in one of their vehicles for 5 more years then finally issues a recall that, 6 months later, is still not able to be implemented due to lack of sourcing of springs that actually spring.....That's not stepping up to the plate.
The list goes on.
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I've worked for Toyota since 2010, and in 06-08, In that time I have seen them take care of more customers than I ever saw at Nissan, Dodge, VW, Mitsubishi, GM, Pontiac and other dealers I have worked for. I have watched them fix customers vehicles that are so far out of warranty that I have told those customers there is no way I would pay for the repairs, and I've contacted Toyota and explained how good of customers they are and Toyota steps up and takes care of them. I have seen customers who have tried to fix their own problems, only to have to bring it to our store, and when we contact our reps, they say take care of them. Now not every case is like that, if you have neglected your vehicle, and haven't serviced it at the dealership, and at 150k miles your front diff goes out and its because you have never serviced the fluid, or other reasons, as a business model it would be silly for Toyota to take care of every customer. However, if you have serviced your vehicle at a Toyota store, if you have shown Toyota your a loyal customer to a store, more often then not they will do something for you, many times I've seen them pay for parts, while you pay the labor, or vise versa.
Toyota leaf springs go flat, they can, just like chevy, just like ford, just like dodge. I see sagging rears all the time. I also see people loading way more weight than what the payload is supposed to be, I also see people putting halfass lifts on without doing what should be done. I also see bigger, harder tires on trucks.
Sounds like your a scorn customer, maybe you have been going to the wrong dealer, or have had a bad experience and has let that tarnish you, and I will apologize as a Toyota Service guy for that.
The lack of sourcing for the springs, as with any recall, once they have figured out what the fix is going to be, making sure the supply of parts will be available is pretty important, cause if I send you a letter that says, call your dealer and set your appointment, when you call and I say I won't have parts for along time, it just stirs your frustration more as well as mine.
Also if you read the recall notice, it does state that if you feel like your vehicle is unsafe to bring it to your local dealer so they can inspect it. At that point your local dealer will contact their regional field specialist and discuss what to do if they do find an issue, and as a Toyota guy, if this is the case, please bring it to your local dealer, we have Toyota rental vehicles for a reason, and I'm sure if there is a safety issue with your vehicle, your regional rep will put you in a rental vehicle at no charge to you. This is not only for your safety, but if your vehicle is unsafe, I don't want you driving by my wife and children as well, that goes for any make or model.
Post by: thinkingman on July 30, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
OME 883 front springs, OME Dakar rear springs with third leaf removed and bilstein 5100s all around WITH NO PRELOAD result in the suspension that Toyota should have spec'd in the first place.
I told Toyota that I'd already fixed their screw ups and to just pay me for parts and labor and they said I have to wait for the recall to be implemented before they can reimburse me.
Post by: thinkingman on July 30, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
I should post pics of my 'alloy' wheels before I replaced them. Nothing from VW Audi dodge jeep ever looked that bad.
Now I'm replacing the roof weather strip that simply blew off at freeway speeds.
Check out that TSB for verification.
Want to discuss airbag sensors and clock spring failures under 100k or the TPMS that never worked properly?
Post by: follow maggie on July 31, 2015, 12:19:37 AM
Post by: xxlx7 on July 31, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
funny about the drip molding on the roof, we deal with that a lot, and I just had a chevy and ford come in with the same issue today. I will say the way those attach is horrible on all models.
Post by: T-Dozzer on August 24, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
I would love to discuss that stuff with you and I would also like it if you could email your vin # to me so I can look into some of your concerns and depending on what you have I can talk to our regional reps for you about your concerns and issues.. my email is kylelindsay@foothillstoyota.com, no point in continuing arguing :)
funny about the drip molding on the roof, we deal with that a lot, and I just had a chevy and ford come in with the same issue today. I will say the way those attach is horrible on all models.
Sent you a pm and to the email you listed
Post by: T-Dozzer on August 24, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
I would love to discuss that stuff with you and I would also like it if you could email your vin # to me so I can look into some of your concerns and depending on what you have I can talk to our regional reps for you about your concerns and issues.. my email is kylelindsay@foothillstoyota.com, no point in continuing arguing :)
funny about the drip molding on the roof, we deal with that a lot, and I just had a chevy and ford come in with the same issue today. I will say the way those attach is horrible on all models.
Sent you a pm and to the email you listed
Now the bracket holding my left leaf back is bent out due to weak load capacity and the stealership won't fix the bent bracket or honor the up coming recall for the rear leafs. I've tried calling corporate, they are clueless.
If you know some regional reps or can help, I sure would appreciate it.
My email is
Tysondc334@gmail.com
Thanks
Post by: xxlx7 on August 27, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
Post by: thinkingman on August 27, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
Toyota is an incredibly arrogant company and it shows
Post by: T-Dozzer on August 27, 2015, 10:15:04 PM
I spoke to corporate again today and felt like I was on the receiving end of a prank phone call.
If I put an elk down in a few weeks, I'm going to have to eat it out there cuz my truck can't handle more than few hundred pounds right now.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on August 27, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
Best small/mid sized trucks out there by a landslide. :twocents:
Actually two landslides. Everything else I have ever owned grenaded it self at 120K at the most.