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Title: The 90 second pizza
Post by: fishnfur on July 02, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
First pizza night of the season - not the hottest day of the year, but it sure felt like it in front of that fire.  Eight mouths, ten pizzas, 90 seconds per pie = 15 minutes total cook time.  Here's BBQ chicken and a smiley pizza for your enjoyment!
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 02, 2015, 02:34:04 PM
That's one heckuva setup you have there.
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 02, 2015, 02:37:06 PM
Man, that looks good!  Looks like a wheat flour crust?
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: GETOUTSIDE on July 02, 2015, 03:12:04 PM
Nice set up! Do you make your own dough too?
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: quadrafire on July 02, 2015, 03:17:28 PM
Very nice!!!!!!

My wife want's me to put in a pizza oven. Did you build yours from scratch and if so did you take pics along the way?
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: NW-GSP on July 02, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
Ive been wanting to build one for a few years now
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: lamrith on July 02, 2015, 04:21:55 PM
very cool set-up, fill us in on the details, how you built etc!!

Any info on what temp you are reaching?
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: fishnfur on July 02, 2015, 07:47:56 PM
Thanks for the positive comments.  I did two tours in Sicily, Italy during my Navy years.  Pizza ovens are relatively common there, kinda like built-in BBQ's here, but in the more affluent areas. 

I built the oven in 2008.  There's a forum like this on the website: Fornobravo.com.  You have to ignore the store-bought ovens on the main web page and go directly to the forum.  I don't hang out with that crowd anymore, so I've forgotten much of the details of the site. They have very specific instructions for the entire build, but there are many members that changed things up to meet their own desires, and so have enormous volumes of building information from various members that dovetails into the main instructions.  If you decide to try to build one, the forum members are very willing to help you out along the way.  Photos of my build should still be on that site.  The dates were roughly July - Nov. 2008 (forgive me if I messed that up).   I don't even remember my user name, so I'm not much help directing you towards my individual oven.  Regardless, for the most part, they are all done similarly, with variations in size, insulation, method of brick cutting, and final finish.   The website also maintains really good recipes for pizzas, dough, bread baking, and general cooking with a wood-fired refractory oven. 

The dough I used is made from standard bread flour - the darkness of the crust comes from the caramelization of the sugars in the dough as it cooks at high heat - just as bread does.  I generally end up cooking pizzas right between 750 - 800 degrees.  If you get it hotter, it's hard to control the speed of the cooking, and you can end up with scorched product very easily.   I still use the Forno Bravo pizza dough recipe, but only use bread flour vs. the recommended Italian flour on that site.

I highly recommend building one, or perhaps an earthen oven (mud/straw mix) for those of you who love great bread.  You can't beat the quality of the breads that come from a wood-fired oven. 

Have fun!
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 02, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
Thanks for the positive comments.  I did two tours in Sicily, Italy during my Navy years.  Pizza ovens are relatively common there, kinda like built-in BBQ's here, but in the more affluent areas. 

I built the oven in 2008.  There's a forum like this on the website: Fornobravo.com.  You have to ignore the store-bought ovens on the main web page and go directly to the forum.  I don't hang out with that crowd anymore, so I've forgotten much of the details of the site. They have very specific instructions for the entire build, but there are many members that changed things up to meet their own desires, and so have enormous volumes of building information from various members that dovetails into the main instructions.  If you decide to try to build one, the forum members are very willing to help you out along the way.  Photos of my build should still be on that site.  The dates were roughly July - Nov. 2008 (forgive me if I messed that up).   I don't even remember my user name, so I'm not much help directing you towards my individual oven.  Regardless, for the most part, they are all done similarly, with variations in size, insulation, method of brick cutting, and final finish.   The website also maintains really good recipes for pizzas, dough, bread baking, and general cooking with a wood-fired refractory oven. 

The dough I used is made from standard bread flour - the darkness of the crust comes from the caramelization of the sugars in the dough as it cooks at high heat - just as bread does.  I generally end up cooking pizzas right between 750 - 800 degrees.  If you get it hotter, it's hard to control the speed of the cooking, and you can end up with scorched product very easily.   I still use the Forno Bravo pizza dough recipe, but only use bread flour vs. the recommended Italian flour on that site.

I highly recommend building one, or perhaps an earthen oven (mud/straw mix) for those of you who love great bread.  You can't beat the quality of the breads that come from a wood-fired oven. 

Have fun!

Sig?

Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: lamrith on July 02, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
Thanks for the details!! :bow: :brew:

I LOVE me some pizza.  I have my pellet grill running 500-550 and using a steel plate to get some of that heat radiating down from 4" over the pizza stone.  Typical papa murphy's pizza takes 3-5min, home made I have done 4-5min.  It is a start, but I want the real thing as some point!

I need to work on my dough though so will check out your link!!
 :cue:
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: JJB11B on July 02, 2015, 08:38:21 PM
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Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: KFhunter on July 02, 2015, 09:15:01 PM
Thanks for the details!! :bow: :brew:

I LOVE me some pizza.  I have my pellet grill running 500-550 and using a steel plate to get some of that heat radiating down from 4" over the pizza stone.  Typical papa murphy's pizza takes 3-5min, home made I have done 4-5min.  It is a start, but I want the real thing as some point!

I need to work on my dough though so will check out your link!!
 :cue:

I would like more details on this metal plate you speak of and how you did it.   I use a pizza stone but no additional steel plates?


I'd love to build me a wood fired oven!
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: lamrith on July 02, 2015, 09:44:03 PM
Thanks for the details!! :bow: :brew:

I LOVE me some pizza.  I have my pellet grill running 500-550 and using a steel plate to get some of that heat radiating down from 4" over the pizza stone.  Typical papa murphy's pizza takes 3-5min, home made I have done 4-5min.  It is a start, but I want the real thing as some point!

I need to work on my dough though so will check out your link!!
 :cue:

I would like more details on this metal plate you speak of and how you did it.   I use a pizza stone but no additional steel plates?


I'd love to build me a wood fired oven!
concept I used:
http://pelletheads.com/index.php?topic=26928.msg231796#msg231796

My setup:
http://pelletheads.com/index.php?topic=30791.0
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: fishnfur on July 02, 2015, 10:53:04 PM
Jay-sharkbait - Sig, twice.  Survived both.  Best 5 years of my life!
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: KFhunter on July 02, 2015, 11:35:41 PM
Ima do this, pizza party incoming!


excited I got about 18 days off work starting in about 24 minutes
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 03, 2015, 03:55:16 AM
Ima do this, pizza party incoming!


excited I got about 18 days off work starting in about 24 minutes

Take pics and show us how it's done.
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: fishnfur on July 03, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
I found my oven build thread on that website  -  way too much to read, but anybody interested in seeing progress pics during the build, just page through the first 15 pages and pick the thumbnails you want to view.  It's a fairly complex build, but a ton of fun.  Basically a big jigsaw puzzle for adults.

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/georges-pompeii-progress-2795.html
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 03, 2015, 06:50:58 PM
Is there a type of wood that makes the best pizza?  Or would that depend on the type of toppings?  Like say cedar if you had salmon, mesquite for bbq chicken, etc?
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: fishnfur on July 04, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
I don't notice any difference with pizza, but my palate and sense of smell is not very good.  Others might find otherwise.  The short period of time the pizza spends in the oven combined with the high temps and more efficient combustion of the wood reduces smoke to almost nil, so the pizza isn't exposed to too much smoke.  A slower burning fire with alder, apple, or cherry, all which are relatively easy to come by in the NW might be fun to experiment with. 

Most lower temp cooking - say 300 - 500 degrees is done by building a normal fire, letting the oven come to full temp - 1000 degrees or so, and then let the fire die down, remove remaining coals, put in a removable door that helps maintain internal temp for a long period of time.i  If I use the door, the oven is still about 250 degrees internal temp, 24 hours after firing it up,
Title: Re: The 90 second pizza
Post by: Blacklab on July 05, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
TMF!!! (To Much Fun)  ;)
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