Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Scopes and Optics => Topic started by: GEARHEAD on January 08, 2009, 07:00:54 PM
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well i did a search and found a small debate on this retical back in october, so felt i'd bring it up again, hoping for additional pro's and cons.
the reason for this posting is that Cabelas is having a kick ass sale on them, 100 bucks off. the scope i want is out of stock, but the same one with the boone and crocket is available for 79 bucks, more. i am experienced, and have taken deer to 456 yards and a yote at 711, with a bdc turret. wondering if the bc is worth it, because i fear i may just put a bdc turret on the scope i buy anyways. my max certain/effective range is probably 500 yards on big game.
Any bc owners out there want to comment. i have to choose between the 3.5x10x40 duplex or the 2.5x8 x36 with the B&C retical. i want the 2.5x8 Any negs on this scope, as i already own a the other and am familiar with it.
oh by the way, did i mention $100 off sale at Cabelas.
Thanks!
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I replied to your question in the deer hunting section. Sounds like a good deal.
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Gear I have the Leupold 4.5-14x50 Boone and Crocket Reticle and I absolutely love it and have had no problems. Dropped my buck two years ago at 489 yards. I would definately say you can't go wrong with a Leupold B&C :)!
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Thanks, what i was hoping to hear. anybody got a 2.5x8, pro's con's.
likely i will need it for 500 yd and under work, but am puting it on a my elk gun for close encounters too. is why i'm leaning towards the 2.5
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I just picked up the 4x14.5x40 with this retical and am looking forward to trying it out, I only got $75 off though. :bash:
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so you just sight the gun in at 100 yards and the rest of the scope tell you where to hold at? :dunno:
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Pretty close, of course not all calibers are alike, i believe it is set up for guns that shoot similar to a .270, so after 300 yards i guess you will need to learn your hold under or hold over for each hash mark, for example 7mm mag maybe you need to hold "under" a little bit at 400 or maybe with a .308, you will need to learn your hold "over", we're talking only a few inches here so, i imagine you can check out a ballistic chart on the web for your bullet specificaly, and print your self up a range card to attach to your rifle butt, or scope cap. rather than spending 60 bucks on ammo or more at the range. i believe it will be close enough that ya could just memorize the difference between what the scpoe is set up for say at 400 yards and what your round choice will do.
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You can order a custom scope to fit any caliber i believe, or maybe that is Nikon. I just know I have seen one before.
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huh interesting.....I might have to look into one for my next rifle
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What's cool with those is they also work with their new rangefinders and when the rangefinder is calibrated to your caliber it will tell tell you which reticle is your hold over at whatever yardage, not that you'll have an opportunity to use it always but it's tacticool!
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Here's a Leupold training video that tells you everything you need to know about the ballistic aiming reticles.
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/resources/instructional-videos/ballistics-aiming-system-training/
I have the VX-III 4.5-14X50 LR with the B&C reticle. Sighted in at 300 yds the 400 and 500 yard lines are on for my .300 win. mag. loaded with a 165 gr TSX. I have not shot further than that and personally wouldn't shoot past 400 at an animal.
-Lowedog
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Thanks for the info guys. i'm going to get the 2.5x8 B.C. also gonna try and find a local dealer like fed way disc guns to match the price and save on shipping, will advise if they do it.
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I guess since i started this long range topic i should also be add for those, if any, not familiar with LR shooting. your scope will not magically shoot where ya want it no matter the device on it, if you do not know the EXACT range. After 300 yards your bullet will be dropping between 7 and 40 inches all the way out to 500 yards. without having a quality RANGE FINDER, and Shooting Stix or a Bipod, your wasting your time. The Animal deserves the right equipment, as do you.
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I had a 2.5X8 and sold it as it was not a "bright" as I thought it should be. I'd go 3.5X10.
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I guess since i started this long range topic i should also be add for those, if any, not familiar with LR shooting. your scope will not magically shoot where ya want it no matter the device on it, if you do not know the EXACT range. After 300 yards your bullet will be dropping between 7 and 40 inches all the way out to 500 yards. without having a quality RANGE FINDER, and Shooting Stix or a Bipod, your wasting your time. The Animal deserves the right equipment, as do you.
Well said GEARHEAD! I should add that I only stated my personal limit of 400 yards because that is the furthest I feel comfortable with. With more practice and the right conditions I may stretch that limit out a bit.
-Lowedog
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I'll throw a different perspective out there. While I'm not claiming BC type reticles are a con I will say that I wouldn't pay more for 1 of them. In a pure cost benefit choice I'd put my money into better glass or other qualitative features before spending on a compenstation type reticle. I regularly shoot out to 500-600 yards and personally haven't felt any need for a BC reticle.
Here's my reasoning... a generic example: Shooting a 7mm Rem Mag sighted in 2" high at 100 yards you in the ballpark of having a +/- 3" point blank range out to 300 yards. In other words if the critter is under 300 yards just aim dead on and shoot... no compensation required. Now, assuming you have a heavy duplex reticle you have another longer range aim point on the vertical cross hair below the horizontal where it goes from thin to thick. Those 2 aim points cover about 98% of your hunting situations.
Again, not knockin em, just my :twocents:
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It's not about need, it's want for me. ;) I didn't "need" a new scope when I bought this one but don't tell my wife that!!!!
-Lowedog