Post by: HoofsandWings on July 06, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
It looks pretty dry to me.
Post by: NWBREW on July 06, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Post by: kenzmad on July 06, 2015, 09:58:14 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on July 06, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on July 06, 2015, 10:07:37 PM
Can't remember. :dunno:
It's been dry in the past few years and stayed open with no fires. Sure it's dry sooner this year but once it's dry than can it get dryer?
It's already there. Why not shut it down now ,why wait?
Humidity plays a big part if I remember .
Post by: huntnnw on July 06, 2015, 10:10:42 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 06, 2015, 10:14:19 PM
Hunt other land besides usfs.
That may be all that's open.
Although I'm hopeful Weyerhaeuser will remain open to those who purchased access permits.
One Weyerhaeuser tree farm in Oregon was closed as of July 1st, except it's still open for permit holders. So I'm hopeful that is how their other areas will be handled.
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Coos Bay: Our FREE USE AREAS are closed due to high fire danger to all NON-Permittees. Millicoma Tree Farm Permittees and Coos Bay Leasees are still allowed access at this time.
Posted on: 7/1/2015 4:50:03 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on July 06, 2015, 10:19:08 PM
Hunt other land besides usfs.
That may be all that's open.
Although I'm hopeful Weyerhaeuser will remain open to those who purchased access permits.
One Weyerhaeuser tree farm in Oregon was closed as of July 1st, except it's still open for permit holders. So I'm hopeful that is how their other areas will be handled.QuoteCoos Bay: Our FREE USE AREAS are closed due to high fire danger to all NON-Permittees. Millicoma Tree Farm Permittees and Coos Bay Leasees are still allowed access at this time.
Posted on: 7/1/2015 4:50:03 PM
Hoofs hunts the east side so I am basing my answer on the east side. The state will be the last to close their land if it gets bad :twocents:.
Post by: huntnnw on July 06, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
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Post by: bobdog86 on July 06, 2015, 11:03:03 PM
Post by: grundy53 on July 07, 2015, 05:12:54 AM
Weyerhaeuser just shut down their north cascades permit area as of today.Hunt other land besides usfs.
That may be all that's open.
Although I'm hopeful Weyerhaeuser will remain open to those who purchased access permits.
One Weyerhaeuser tree farm in Oregon was closed as of July 1st, except it's still open for permit holders. So I'm hopeful that is how their other areas will be handled.QuoteCoos Bay: Our FREE USE AREAS are closed due to high fire danger to all NON-Permittees. Millicoma Tree Farm Permittees and Coos Bay Leasees are still allowed access at this time.
Posted on: 7/1/2015 4:50:03 PM
Post by: cryder on July 07, 2015, 07:18:26 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 07, 2015, 07:26:40 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 07, 2015, 07:33:47 AM
If you have a private permit, I would have a backup plan.
Post by: bearpaw on July 07, 2015, 07:39:26 AM
I could see that happening again this year if we don't get a break in the weather.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 07, 2015, 07:40:32 AM
I think it was about 1991, it was very dry in Sept, about one day into fall bear season the state shut down hunting until it rained, DNR was out telling people to "get out now" there was no hunting at least in NE WA for about 10 days.
I could see that happening again this year if we don't get a break in the weather.
They'll need a helicopter to get me out :peep:
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 07, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
I think it was about 1991, it was very dry in Sept, about one day into fall bear season the state shut down hunting until it rained, DNR was out telling people to "get out now" there was no hunting at least in NE WA for about 10 days.
I could see that happening again this year if we don't get a break in the weather.
DNR land, though. Not NF. I wouldn't think the DNR guys have any jurisdiction on NF land at all.
Post by: bobcat on July 07, 2015, 09:16:38 AM
Post by: jkononen on July 07, 2015, 09:30:45 AM
Weyerhaeuser just shut down their north cascades permit area as of today.Hunt other land besides usfs.
That may be all that's open.
Although I'm hopeful Weyerhaeuser will remain open to those who purchased access permits.
One Weyerhaeuser tree farm in Oregon was closed as of July 1st, except it's still open for permit holders. So I'm hopeful that is how their other areas will be handled.QuoteCoos Bay: Our FREE USE AREAS are closed due to high fire danger to all NON-Permittees. Millicoma Tree Farm Permittees and Coos Bay Leasees are still allowed access at this time.
Posted on: 7/1/2015 4:50:03 PM
Post by: Curly on July 07, 2015, 09:36:36 AM
Where's this information?Weyerhaeuser just shut down their north cascades permit area as of today.Hunt other land besides usfs.
That may be all that's open.
Although I'm hopeful Weyerhaeuser will remain open to those who purchased access permits.
One Weyerhaeuser tree farm in Oregon was closed as of July 1st, except it's still open for permit holders. So I'm hopeful that is how their other areas will be handled.QuoteCoos Bay: Our FREE USE AREAS are closed due to high fire danger to all NON-Permittees. Millicoma Tree Farm Permittees and Coos Bay Leasees are still allowed access at this time.
Posted on: 7/1/2015 4:50:03 PM
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North Cascades Tree Farm
(Whatcom, Skagit, Snohomish, King, and Chelan Counties)
North Cascades/Chelan: Due to the increasing fire danger, North Cascades/Chelan Tree Farm non-permit lands are closed to public access. This includes motorized vehicles, walking, biking or horseback riding. If you have a valid North Cascades/Chelan recreational access permit you will be allowed to access the designated permit areas unless conditions continue to escalate.
http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/files/1414/3587/2492/Columbia_Timberlands-Hotline_Message.pdf
Post by: birddogdad on July 07, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
fed lands had major restrictions, private timber was no trespass...
Post by: Nice Racks on July 07, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 07, 2015, 09:57:30 AM
I think it was about 1991, it was very dry in Sept, about one day into fall bear season the state shut down hunting until it rained, DNR was out telling people to "get out now" there was no hunting at least in NE WA for about 10 days.
I could see that happening again this year if we don't get a break in the weather.
This, along with private land permit access only permits and the limited time I get afield is why I stopped playing the special hunt lottery here and will only buy OTC right before the hunt.
I'd much rather save the dollars and spend it in states that are not beholden to wolf and/or other anti-hunter groups, where success is about more than just getting lucky in the draw, paying another access fee, or hunting (MF) in a pumpkin patch.
Post by: grundy53 on July 07, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Subject: IFPL 4 in Zone 656 & Zone 658 - Woods are closed to the public effective Tues 7/7/15
Importance: High
The Washington State Department of Natural Resources Northwest Region is going to an IFPL 4 in Zone 656 and Zone 658 effective Tuesday 7/7/15. An IFPL 4 closes all lands to the public. The only activity allowed is for fire patrol and suppression purposes.
The Fire Danger rating is going to VERY HIGH on Tuesday, July 7, 2015 in all counties within the NW Region which includes Whatcom, Skagit, Snohomish, Island and San Juan counties.
The Chelan County land is at a IFPL 3 and is still available to permit holders at this time.
Here is the link to check the DNR website for updates on the industrial fire precaution levels.
https://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/ifpl/IFPL.aspx
We will notify you of any changes as they occur. We appreciate your patience during this extremely hot and dry summer period.
Weyerhaeuser Columbia Timberlands Recreation Team
www.wyrecreationnw.com
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 07, 2015, 11:21:15 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on July 07, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
North ID last weekend... you couldnt start this area on fire if you tried. Miles and miles of terrain that looks like this
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Doesn't appear to be the case this week:
http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_29b1b6ff-9097-5e7d-b039-6e60f6e3124a.html?mode=jqm
Doesn't look like things are going to get any better, any where soon!!!!
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 07, 2015, 12:21:42 PM
Post by: cryder on July 07, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 07, 2015, 08:03:12 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 07, 2015, 08:25:06 PM
IFPL stands for Industrial Fire Planning Level. This only affects work on the forest. Does not affect recreation. There are fire bans on forests though in dispersed camp sites.
It appears that Weyerhaeuser is using the IFPL for the closure of their lands.
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 07, 2015, 08:28:35 PM
Well I guess their land they can do what they want. But on nf and dnr land that is industrial work not recreation.IFPL stands for Industrial Fire Planning Level. This only affects work on the forest. Does not affect recreation. There are fire bans on forests though in dispersed camp sites.
It appears that Weyerhaeuser is using the IFPL for the closure of their lands.
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Post by: grundy53 on July 07, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
I think that since the permits generate money it might fall under this. I imagine Weyerhaeuser would be on the hook if a permitee started a fire and DNR had to fight it.Well I guess their land they can do what they want. But on nf and dnr land that is industrial work not recreation.IFPL stands for Industrial Fire Planning Level. This only affects work on the forest. Does not affect recreation. There are fire bans on forests though in dispersed camp sites.
It appears that Weyerhaeuser is using the IFPL for the closure of their lands.
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Post by: grundy53 on July 13, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
Just got this email from Weyerhauser.
Good Evening North Cascades/Chelan recreational access permittees.
The Department of Natural Resources has reduced the Industrial Fire Precaution level so we can now allow access into the permit areas again. We have one exception; our Granite Wheeler block will remain closed due to active harvest operations. Thank you for your patience and we look forward to seeing you out in the permit areas.
Sincerely,
Weyerhaeuser Columbia Timberlands Recreation Team
www.wyrecreationnw.com
Post by: grundy53 on July 13, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
https://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/ifpl/IFPL.aspx