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Title: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 19, 2015, 10:23:53 PM
   trail cam.  am getting caught up in  how many mp's are needed.     have no idea what I will use it for.    are they all waterproof?    will be thankful for any input in learning what to choose.      do you shop for a brand or will any brand work fine?  thank you,   mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 19, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
higher mp the better the pic, but also takes up more room per pic on your SD. I like the 5mp cams they take good pics and dont take up a ton on sd cards.

I personally shop for brands, my favs are wild game innovation cams
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 19, 2015, 10:39:21 PM
   forgot to ask about sd cards.  do I get the best one or the cheapest.  thanks,  lost in Othello,  mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 19, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
I buy off amazon
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: stevemiller on July 19, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
You want a good one,With 32 gigs.I started with an had about 150 pics or so some of critters but you will get mobs of pics of grass blowing in the wind,Limbs,birds flying by,and  other moving things filling your card.If you leave it soak for a week it would most likely be full with an 8 gig. With maybe 5 deer, 2 Elk lol.32 gigs good for over a month soak,You will see whats in the area.  :twocents:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 20, 2015, 06:14:54 AM
then your cams dont work if they are capturing bugs, grass and limbs.. those cams find their way to my pile. I have 6 cams out right now and with those 6 I might get 10 pics of nothing all the rest are animals. Thats about 4,000 pics a week between them all. A 8gb card will hold on avg 3,500-4,000 pics at 5mp. I buy cheapest SD cards I can find on amazon and never had any issues still have some that are 7 years old. Funny thing is I have a pricey 16gb Sony card and it doesnt work.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: stevemiller on July 20, 2015, 08:30:50 AM
I guess maybe you are right,My cams are just junk.I dont mow the grass in the area down,I dont break the tree limbs off that might get in the way,I dont ask God not to let the wind blow where my cams are set up at. JUST JUNK.I think my cams must work pretty good if they pick up the movement around them like they are designed to.Most importantly I dont put my cams up where everyone can see them either.Wheres your cams set up Cabelas parking lot?GIVE ME A BREAK.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 20, 2015, 09:28:14 AM
  is there a sensitivity button on a cam or do you take everything that comes along.  mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Z_rock01 on July 20, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
Dont buy the cheapest...!! You get what you pay for.  I run four Cameras. 2 Moultree's 8MP that work great (Cabelas has a sale on them now) One older Moultree 5 MP (To big for the woods) and one Cuddie Back 20MP. None of my cameras are over $200. Just try and find one you think you will like and role with it. I do reccomend that you get a security box if your putting it on public land. Just makes people think twice, (If they want it, they will take it)  :twocents: :twocents:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 20, 2015, 11:25:43 PM
I guess maybe you are right,My cams are just junk.I dont mow the grass in the area down,I dont break the tree limbs off that might get in the way,I dont ask God not to let the wind blow where my cams are set up at. JUST JUNK.I think my cams must work pretty good if they pick up the movement around them like they are designed to.Most importantly I dont put my cams up where everyone can see them either.Wheres your cams set up Cabelas parking lot?GIVE ME A BREAK.  :rolleyes:
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 :rolleyes: that might be the dumbest post Ive read on here this year

read up on how cams work dude! THEY ARE NOT INTENDED TO PICK UP MOVEMENT FROM WIND! if they are they are not working correctly.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: stevemiller on July 20, 2015, 11:33:25 PM
They are designed to pick up movement.  :bash: They dont know the diff. from a bird,Grass,limbs from elk,deer coyotes,cougars etc. You are not being honest in your posts so Im done conversing with you about it.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Naches Sportsman on July 20, 2015, 11:38:20 PM
They are designed to pick up movement.  :bash: They dont know the diff. from a bird,Grass,limbs from elk,deer coyotes,cougars etc. You are not being honest in your posts so Im done conversing with you about it.

Sounds like you are not setting up your cameras correctly. Should be only getting pictures of animals :twocents:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 20, 2015, 11:48:21 PM
Detection Circuits
     The detection circuit of a trail camera is what will actually detect the animal.  Cameras trigger based off of a combination of heat and motion.  Detection circuits consist of:
Trigger Time
Recovery Time
Detection Zone

Got warm blooded grass and limbs I take?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: stevemiller on July 20, 2015, 11:50:53 PM
Detection Circuits
     The detection circuit of a trail camera is what will actually detect the animal.  Cameras trigger based off of a combination of heat and motion.  Detection circuits consist of:
Trigger Time
Recovery Time
Detection Zone

Got warm blooded grass and limbs I take?  :rolleyes:
They will trigger DAYTIME on movement alone.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 20, 2015, 11:58:39 PM
you have malfunctioning cams then pal..why is it 13 cams I have with 4 different brands not do as you described? my buddy just returned a cam doing as you described..why? cause its not suppose to! guess what he got a new one and it works just fine now.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: stevemiller on July 21, 2015, 12:03:40 AM
anyone else?
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: UptheCreek on July 21, 2015, 06:33:58 AM
I am with Huntnnw on this one.  If you are getting tons of pics other than animals you most likely have a bad camera or a bad setup.  I will let you make the call.  Mine are setup to take a pic every minute when something is in front of it and I usually get 1200-1600 pics every three weeks on most of my cams.  All but a couple are animals.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 21, 2015, 06:38:40 AM
YUP! I even have small trees that blow around in front of some not to include all the tree limbs in the proximity of the sensor that move with the wind and yet I dont get a bunch of nothing pics
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 21, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
You obviously don't know what your talking about or doing huntnnw! You read it here!!!  :chuckle: :bash:
Since you are all talk and never post or show anyone any of your pics.   :dunno:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Woodchuck on July 21, 2015, 07:31:14 AM
You mean trail cameras are to get pics of animals, not grass and tree limbs? Whoa now...
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 21, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
    is it legal to tell us which cameras take pics of trees and limbs.  am still looking for a camera.  am leaning toward a bushnell 12 mp trophy.  is it correct that I want the biggest, baddest card(the 28 g) for the cam?   mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 21, 2015, 09:03:51 AM
My favorite are wild game innovations lights out cams. I typically run a 4 gig cards and get 2700-2800 pics on them. The cams usually run $120 ish and cards are cheap on Amazon. No real need for a 28 gig card.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 09:15:22 AM
Just ordered a 32 GB card so I too can have 1.5 million pictures of developing leaves and grass blades.

Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 09:21:52 AM
As far as megapixels go, I'd say it's all about what you want.  Do you want beautiful pictures of branches or just so-so ones?  As long as the camera performs well otherwise, I am perfectly fine with 5MP.

Overall I would say this...I have never been disappointed with the performance of an expensive ($150+) camera but have been widely disappointed in the cheap ones.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: coop2424 on July 21, 2015, 09:22:55 AM
    is it legal to tell us which cameras take pics of trees and limbs.  am still looking for a camera.  am leaning toward a bushnell 12 mp trophy.  is it correct that I want the biggest, baddest card(the 28 g) for the cam?   mike w

I would say get 2 lower end mp trailcams with smaller memory cards.  Two is better than one top of the line in my mind since allows me to scout more areas.  Depends though on cost of the 12mp. Also depends on quality of pics you want though, but 5 and 8mp work awesome for me.  I run bushnells and I do like them mainly for their battery life.  I am having issues with some now but have had them for 5 years.

 I need one of these trailcams that take pics of trees and leaves so I don't have to look at animals on every picture like mine are now. 
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 09:45:01 AM
 :yeah:

low MP (and price) on a well functioning camera is a win.  Emphasis on the well functioning part of the equation.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: jackelope on July 21, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
anyone else?

I will vouch for huntnnw and say you're wrong, Steve. I have cameras in uncut CRP fields. If anyone was going to get 4000 pics of grass blowing in the wind, it'd be me, and it's not happening.

I will add that I would never spend the money to buy 32gb sd cards either unless you've got a solar charger battery pack hooked up to your camera and you plan to leave it out for a whole year.
8gb in all of the cameras I have.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: CP on July 21, 2015, 10:32:24 AM
    is it legal to tell us which cameras take pics of trees and limbs.  am still looking for a camera.  am leaning toward a bushnell 12 mp trophy.  is it correct that I want the biggest, baddest card(the 28 g) for the cam?   mike w

I have a 6mp Bushnell that takes lots of pics of nothing - but it takes OK pictures of game too:

Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 10:41:58 AM
    is it legal to tell us which cameras take pics of trees and limbs.  am still looking for a camera.  am leaning toward a bushnell 12 mp trophy.  is it correct that I want the biggest, baddest card(the 28 g) for the cam?   mike w

I have a 6mp Bushnell that takes lots of pics of nothing - but it takes OK pictures of game too:

The nicer Bushnell Trophy cameras are spot on with no dry-fires and all the newer Moultrie cameras have given me the same result.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: heronblu on July 21, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
I agree with huntnw too. I had a couple of cheap cameras a few years ago that would get me thousands of pics of wind shots. I have Bushnell 8mp cameras now in those same locations and two years later Ive only gotten animals on them.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 21, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
  are trail cams fireproof?   mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: CP on July 21, 2015, 02:00:27 PM
  are trail cams fireproof?   mike w

No
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 21, 2015, 03:10:20 PM
   ouch          mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 21, 2015, 04:02:14 PM
No just ask the cams that take pics of grass and limbs..
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 04:20:34 PM
No just ask the cams that take pics of grass and limbs..

They all do that  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: jackelope on July 21, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
No just ask the cams that take pics of grass and limbs..

They all do that  :rolleyes:

Clearly. There's loads of grass and sticks in the pics posted above.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
  :yeah: :chuckle:  this thread is cracking me up more than it should
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 21, 2015, 04:48:32 PM
 :yeah: Almost delusional
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 21, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
  I have lots of sticks and grass in my backyard but no animals other than rosco my dumb dog and some food bumming cats.  I want pics of game animals, so what cams can I buy?     will the bushnell 12 mp work?    mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 21, 2015, 09:24:41 PM
I personally will not spend $100 or more on a cam and usually buy most my cams around $50 a piece. I am always looking for deals and that means not cabelas  :chuckle: most of their cams are $20-$50 more than where I can buy the same cam elsewhere. Almost all my most trusted cams are $50 WGI cams and take great pics and always work..most of my cams have 8gb cards and if they are placed over bait or salt in a heavy activity area I get about 2 weeks before the SD fills.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on July 22, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
when the card fills up does the cam let you know or do you have to check on it from time to time.   that is  sorta a silly qn.    mike w
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 22, 2015, 08:28:19 AM
when the card fills up does the cam let you know or do you have to check on it from time to time.   that is  sorta a silly qn.    mike w

Most will have it showing on the menu 48/8700 or something like that.  When the card is full it will be showing 8700/8700 meaning all space for pictures of that size SD card have been allocated to memory.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 23, 2015, 05:34:06 PM
Wow so that's Steve  :chuckle:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 23, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
That's a real winner there!
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: benhuntin on July 23, 2015, 05:50:12 PM
That's nuts
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 23, 2015, 05:53:39 PM
They are designed to pick up movement.  :bash: They dont know the diff. from a bird,Grass,limbs from elk,deer coyotes,cougars etc. You are not being honest in your posts so Im done conversing with you about it.
So much for being done conversing.  :chuckle:
as for tree limb pics... Maybe you shouldn't put your camera where it is blocked by limbs or grass. The rest of us can get cams set fine. I'm guessing even a normal 2nd grader would be able to set their cam so that it doesn't get false triggers constantly.
Maybe there is some truth to the saying "you can't fix stupid".
Now we have resorted to calling names in pm's.   :bash:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntnnw on July 23, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
 :yeah: Prolly owns 1 cam and it's all he knows
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: bearpaw on July 23, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
I removed the name calling because it's against forum rules.

The member causing the unnecessary drama is also being dealt with accordingly, my apologies that he trashed up this topic. Hopefully that gets this topic back on track. There are some good tips here from people who have been using cams for quite a while, I hope it is helpful info for other members.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: JJB11B on July 23, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
My older Bushnell cam use to give me a lot of empty pics, Is there anything I can do in the settings to minimize that? or is it a problem with that particular camera? I cant even tell you what model it is because I don't have it here with me.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: AntlerHound on July 23, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
I had a moultrie 990 out last year in a high wind area.. i had put a t post in the ground to attach the cam to..it wasn't solid enough or something the first week was a lot of pics of nothing.. Pounded the post in another foot.. till it didn't wobble..never had a problem after that.. :dunno:
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: JJB11B on July 23, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
That could be my problem. Mine was zip tied to a little sapling, all I had available at the time I guess, I did get some excellent pics off of it though
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Bean Counter on July 23, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
OP: You don't need to go buying the most expensive SD card you can find. Often what makes them expensive is for their read and write speed. I recently spent $100 on a 64MB Compact Flash card because it can be written to at  up to 167mb/sec. That's needed for large bursts of RAW files from a DSLR but not your trail cam churning out 1mb jogs even if you have an 8 photo burst. Save some money and get the lower speed SD cards.  :twocents:

-Bean Counter the cheapskate.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: bobcat on July 23, 2015, 09:26:53 PM
I have about 15 SD cards and none of them cost more than $5.00. Half are 2 GB and the other half 4 GB.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 04, 2015, 05:26:59 AM
I check my Browning cams and almost always have pictures where i look at them with my little viewer and i'm like, dangit why is it taking pics of nothing, i need to get rid of this cam.

Then i take it home and see an ear in a corner, or a blur of a deer that ran through in seconds, or some dark figure in the back reaches of the IR flash range.  The Brownings have been good to me, long story short, and i'm with huntnw, i don't pay more than 100 for cams.  Paid $60 each for my Range Ops on Black Friday last year, and i have to Stealth cams now that i paid $60 each for refurbished.  You can get good deals if you keep your eyes open for them.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: Band on August 04, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
I check my Browning cams and almost always have pictures where i look at them with my little viewer and i'm like, dangit why is it taking pics of nothing, i need to get rid of this cam.

Then i take it home and see an ear in a corner, or a blur of a deer that ran through in seconds, or some dark figure in the back reaches of the IR flash range.
My Browning does the same thing.  It takes pics before the animal comes into frame and after it leaves the frame.  I'd say the problem is that the detection range is wider than the picture frame.  I find it a little annoying.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 05, 2015, 12:52:26 AM
I check my Browning cams and almost always have pictures where i look at them with my little viewer and i'm like, dangit why is it taking pics of nothing, i need to get rid of this cam.

Then i take it home and see an ear in a corner, or a blur of a deer that ran through in seconds, or some dark figure in the back reaches of the IR flash range.
My Browning does the same thing.  It takes pics before the animal comes into frame and after it leaves the frame.  I'd say the problem is that the detection range is wider than the picture frame.  I find it a little annoying.

It is annoying, but at the same time, i do 2 week soaks and have about 700 pics of deer, so if that happens a dozen times in 700 pics i can tolerate it lol.
Title: Re: trail cam mp
Post by: splitshot on August 07, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
settled on 2 Moultrie 8 mp with cards and batteries.  saved about $100 if I had bought at cabelas.    mike w
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