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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: rtspring on July 21, 2015, 05:14:30 AM
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Just trying to learn as much as I can.
Tell us some simple mistakes you have made on any animal.
Mine was shooting downhill, Steep and getting my yardage messed up!!
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
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Not laying out yardage markers from a stand on our property. My 40 yrds is much shorter then 40 yrds in real life. :bash:
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Practice judging distances, you don't always have time to use a range finder.
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Dont wait to long to draw !
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Moving through the woods too quickly and walking into game.
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Not waiting enough time to let the animal expire....for example....last year I made a pretty solid shot on my deer...Went over to where she was standing and had good blood right away. Well, you know how it gets, you start looking around. My arrow was only about 20 feet away but in finding it I bumped her. She had bedded only about 25 yards away from where i hit her. Granted, she only ran another 50 yards and expired but if I had simply waited and not been anxious to find my arrow/blood she would have expired quicker and not have had me bump her. So I guess my mistake was not in the shot but in having enough patience to not even move in for a bit.
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Not waiting for or stopping the deer before i shot. Buck was 30yrds away and walking slowly, i just let the arrow fly and liver shot him. should have grunted. took along time for him to expire on that one. very disappointing/traumatizing for myself for as much as he had to suffer.
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
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Not waiting enough time to let the animal expire....for example....last year I made a pretty solid shot on my deer...Went over to where she was standing and had good blood right away. Well, you know how it gets, you start looking around. My arrow was only about 20 feet away but in finding it I bumped her. She had bedded only about 25 yards away from where i hit her. Granted, she only ran another 50 yards and expired but if I had simply waited and not been anxious to find my arrow/blood she would have expired quicker and not have had me bump her. So I guess my mistake was not in the shot but in having enough patience to not even move in for a bit.
I lost an elk due to not waiting long enough when I first started elk hunting. It sucked.
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Shooting high while aiming down a steep hill/cliff. I was so amazed that I was able to sneak up on the animal that I forgot to aim a bit lower. Im shooting a recurve btw.
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Not taking the shot when you have it, just because it is early season.
Learned that the hard way last year. 1st year hunting, 1hr45min into my 1st day I was full draw on a nice fat Muley doe, broadside @ 40yrds. I hesitated, then let her go. Never got within 65yrd of a deer the rest of the hunt...
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Not taking the shot when you have it, just because it is early season.
Learned that the hard way last year. 1st year hunting, 1hr45min into my 1st day I was full draw on a nice fat Muley doe, broadside @ 40yrds. I hesitated, then let her go. Never got within 65yrd of a deer the rest of the hunt...
Relish it. Time in the woods can be more valuable than a quick hunt. Maybe that doe is raising a couple of bucks this year :tup:
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A mistake I have made twice now is ranging the animal at 46 yards and both times I thought 46 yards, drew back and counted down my pins, 20,30 40 and let the arrow go when I got to 40 and shot right under both of them. I should have split my 40 and 50 but as soon as I heard 40 in my mind I let it go. I have done it a couple of times at 3d shoots also. Not sure how to fix it but it is frustrating every time I do it.
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Knowing what tag you have RT, I will direct my bowhunting tip from an elk standpoint. I learned this lesson in Oregon a few years ago where I was trying to get ahead of a group of cows and a bull. I had worked my tail off for more than an hour and thought I lost them. I decided to sit down along the edge of the timber to take a break and of course, not a few minutes into the break, I catch movement out of the corner of my eye and here comes a few cows and the bull out in the open. I had no cover around me so any motion I made, they were going to catch and it ended up burning me. Now I try my best to take any and all breaks somewhere that I would also choose as a shooting position because you just never know when something might happen and you don't have time to move.
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:yeah:
Great advice for all hunting. I can't count the number of times that game has just appeared when I am taking a snack break.
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Not setting my stand up properly. Had a doe walk in under me and when I pulled back my bow, it was catching the branches above. Made a lot of noise and impossible to shoot. Now I either trim a few braches or position my stand a little better.
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Moving too fast. Once I got to where I could really slow down I started seeing pieces of ear, eye, legs in the thick stuff that I normally would have walked by. It was surprising how well hidden they can be and how close you can be and they stay still.
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can't think of any :chuckle:
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All of them :bash:
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All of them :bash:
:chuckle: ..., and you're not alone, either!
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I made lots of mistakes as a first year archery hunter. One thing that hurt me was inconsistent mechanics and a slow range finder.
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Dont wait to long to draw !
Two different 5 points at 50 yards. They step into the open and then I realize that I should have drawn my bow. :bash: :bash:... Busted both times....
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Thinking a two blade broadhead would work just as well as a three or four blade.
Most of my hunting mistakes are due to impatience. "Right spot/right time" and "Right spot/wrong time" are often only a moments difference.
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Bow string hitting the sleeve of my rain gear and dumping all my arrows about 10yrds in front of me...I couldn't figure out why the deer wasn't running away or falling over. 3 arrows latter I gave up when the deer finally had enough of me. I then found all my arrows, one was imbedded in a big chunk of bark and ruined the broad head.
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Not being patient long enough during cold calling setups for elk. Almost every single year, I leave a setup too soon and get busted.
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Thinking someone else in or around your hunting area will lower your success. Be on alert at all times.
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buying the wrong arrows. they don't go where they are intended to go. so I went back to powder, plus you are to be quiet and that sucks. mike w
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
As a person who is Target Panic challenged I love to split pins! I like round donut apertures too!
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Not being patient long enough during cold calling setups for elk. Almost every single year, I leave a setup too soon and get busted.
What?! I am not the only one that does this? :chuckle:
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Practice judging distances, you don't always have time to use a range finder.
I agree. My method is to start at the target and throw a bean bag or softball. Walk to the spot where it landed, judge the distance and take a shot. If you hunt in thick cover, practice in thick cover. If you hunt in the open from a stand, practice that way. Ranges look different in thick VS open. If you hunt from a stand, have someone on the ground move your target to unknown distances and angles.
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Oh, and make sure they move before you shoot.
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
I usually step back 5 yards and use my 50 yd pin.
Not really, but I guess I should have explained it better.
When I was younger and starting out bow hunting I would say "it looks like somewhere between 30 and 40". Problem being if it was 30 and I split the pins, but my 30 was at the bottom of the chest I would usually shoot under... Or if it was closer to 40 and my 40 pin was on the back...over the back the arrow would go.
I had better luck picking one pin and focusing on a specific hair/spot while aiming high or low on the target (with that specific pin). For example, if I thought the target was 25yards away, I would FOCUS on my 20 yard pin and then pick a small spot on the top 1/3rd of the kill zone. I rarely miss a deer since I stopped splitting pins. For me it just helped me to focus on a smaller point and it improved my shots. Maybe it made me commit to a specific yardage rather than a range? Either way I do not split pins, even when target shooting.
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Thinking a two blade broadhead would work just as well as a three or four blade.
Care to explain a little further?
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Thinking a two blade broadhead would work just as well as a three or four blade.
Care to explain a little further?
Uh oh. Here comes a "short" answer. :chuckle:
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My bowhunting mistakes have been numerous and hurtful.
Not waiting on cold calling setups costs me at least one bull per year for the last 30 years. Those hurt something fierce because you know better.
For many years I'd had a 3 or 5 pin fixed sight. Any critter at 33.75 yards would be in trouble. I'd just put all the pins somewhere close, but that doesn't pan out to well at all if it's not at that exact distance. RAD's Little Thing of centering the pin versus the sight frame handed me plenty of misses over those years. Switching to a single pin movable fixed that problem instantly.
Moving too fast through the woods has hurt me over the years. Getting some fleece stalking booties has helped a ton to slow me down and make me conscious of the noise and speed I was making.
Poor Shoot/Don't Shoot skills hurt my success in the early years.
Not stretching my effective range through focused practice hampered me.
Not seeing a limb has cost me dearly many times. (A 360 bull at 16 yards last year). :bash:
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Most of these were in my early years:
Shooting too far
Not bending at the waist when hunting out of a treestand
Having a noisy TM Hunter rest and drawing on a very close animal when it was deathly quiet
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Thinking a two blade broadhead would work just as well as a three or four blade.
Care to explain a little further?
Uh oh. Here comes a "short" answer. :chuckle:
OK here is a short answer.
Personal kills with two blade broadheads = 40 even. 38 of those with a 1.5" cutting width. Lethal shot placement that resulted in failure to kill animal quickly with 2 blade = 5. Not sure about others standards, but IMO a 12.5% failure rate is way too high.
In contrast - I believe my harvest numbers are very close to that same number with the Zwickey Black Diamond Delta with the bleeders. I spent a lot of time meticulously sharpening and honing those little blades. Not one single failure. And usually VERY short blood trails!
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driving the quad into the woods... hiking to the stand... setting down for the long wait and realizing I left my release back at camp....
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My bowhunting mistakes have been numerous and hurtful.
Not waiting on cold calling setups costs me at least one bull per year for the last 30 years. Those hurt something fierce because you know better.
For many years I'd had a 3 or 5 pin fixed sight. Any critter at 33.75 yards would be in trouble. I'd just put all the pins somewhere close, but that doesn't pan out to well at all if it's not at that exact distance. RAD's Little Thing of centering the pin versus the sight frame handed me plenty of misses over those years. Switching to a single pin movable fixed that problem instantly.
Moving too fast through the woods has hurt me over the years. Getting some fleece stalking booties has helped a ton to slow me down and make me conscious of the noise and speed I was making.
Poor Shoot/Don't Shoot skills hurt my success in the early years.
Not stretching my effective range through focused practice hampered me.
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Just let it go!!
Not seeing a limb has cost me dearly many times. (A 360 bull at 16 yards last year). :bash:
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Used the 30 yard pin on a 24 yard shot. Shot over the bucks back! :yike: HAIRCUT :bash:
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Used the 30 yard pin on a 24 yard shot. Shot over the bucks back! :yike: HAIRCUT :bash:
Dude, you need a faster bow! :o
Or some bigger deer to shoot at! :chuckle:
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Having my bow in the case on the way to elk camp two days before the opener. Cinnamon Bruin 35 yd chip shot that I never had the chance to take.
Pushing a blood trail too soon after a shot. Biggest mistake imo for new bowhunters.
The next biggest mistake is being dependant on your rangefinder.
Finally, shot placement. Quartering to shots are not something I care for on elk. I would rather move to either side or wait for the opportunity to take a broadside or frontal. Quartering away is perfect!
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Can someone answer these simple questions...
If I am shooting "up hill" at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
If I am shooting "down hill at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
Lastly..
Last season I used an average range finder. You press the button and it gives you a range; nothing fancy. This year I would like to upgrade to a nice unit specific to archery, but I would like to be able to range out to 600 yards during the modern rifle elk season. I am not ready to hunt elk with a bow- IMO.
Any suggestions on an awesome unit?
Thanks GH
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First year bowhunting I stalked within about 10 yards of a 170" bedded muley, wind was stiff, unchanging and in my favor, the buck was bedded in some tall grass and all I could see were those antlers and ears, he had zero clue I was within a mile much less 10 yards. But being young, dumb, and impatient I thought if I drew my bow and stood slowly I could sneak an arrow into his vitals and be done with it, not the case, but seeing his eyes bug out of his head was almost as satisfying(I'm lying to myself). I have never in my life seen a muley move as quickly as that buck did that day
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Can someone answer these simple questions...
If I am shooting "up hill" at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
If I am shooting "down hill at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
You are going to aim low in both those situations. How low depends on the angle of the shot.
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My biggest mistake has been not shooting when I get a chance, because I wanted to get just a little closer. Lost lots of animals to this
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My biggest mistake has been not shooting when I get a chance, because I wanted to get just a little closer. Lost lots of animals to this
Oh Man!!! If I only had all those to do over again :chuckle: One of the first things Duke Savora taught me, "When you know you can kill 'em - Just kill 'em already!" If I had listened to him better I'd likely have the Oregon State record muledeer :chuckle: :bash:
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The biggest mistake I have made was last year on my first Idaho hunt. I called a bull in on my first evening there,a really nice six by.I had stocked him for about 100 yards with an arrow knocked and when he stepped up on my side of the creek after frolicking in the nice cold water perfectly broadside,I started drawing my bow back and did not notice the knock had come loose on the string.next thing I knew my arrow fell off the string, the broad head flipped up, hit my site and all I could do was stand at full draw with no arrow and watch as this beautiful bull trotted back across the creek and up the hill.
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most of my mistakes were made prior to carbon arrows, captive fall away rests and rangefinders...
and there was that forked horn doe in rotten velvet that one September weekend
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Lots since i began bowhunting, but biggest was taking iffy shot because your afraid you wont get better one. I would much rather watch animal walk away than make poor shot.
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Can someone answer these simple questions...
If I am shooting "up hill" at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
If I am shooting "down hill at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
You are going to aim low in both those situations. How low depends on the angle of the shot.
thanks sir
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Getting addicted to it
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Teaching an angry squaw to hunt :bash: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
I usually step back 5 yards and use my 50 yd pin.
Not really, but I guess I should have explained it better.
When I was younger and starting out bow hunting I would say "it looks like somewhere between 30 and 40". Problem being if it was 30 and I split the pins, but my 30 was at the bottom of the chest I would usually shoot under... Or if it was closer to 40 and my 40 pin was on the back...over the back the arrow would go.
I had better luck picking one pin and focusing on a specific hair/spot while aiming high or low on the target (with that specific pin). For example, if I thought the target was 25yards away, I would FOCUS on my 20 yard pin and then pick a small spot on the top 1/3rd of the kill zone. I rarely miss a deer since I stopped splitting pins. For me it just helped me to focus on a smaller point and it improved my shots. Maybe it made me commit to a specific yardage rather than a range? Either way I do not split pins, even when target shooting.
Maybe it is because you cant figure out where the pins go. Your sight is upside down! Lol
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Being the only one with a day pack that can haul a load....
Being the youngest in the crew.... (pack mule)
Becoming a really good caller ....
Hmmmmm can't really think of any others :chuckle: :chuckle:
Jkjk I.make.more mistakes than anyone I know....in fact we've considered making a movie of "how not to bow hunt"
My biggest mistakes have all involved rushing stalks
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
I usually step back 5 yards and use my 50 yd pin.
Not really, but I guess I should have explained it better.
When I was younger and starting out bow hunting I would say "it looks like somewhere between 30 and 40". Problem being if it was 30 and I split the pins, but my 30 was at the bottom of the chest I would usually shoot under... Or if it was closer to 40 and my 40 pin was on the back...over the back the arrow would go.
I had better luck picking one pin and focusing on a specific hair/spot while aiming high or low on the target (with that specific pin). For example, if I thought the target was 25yards away, I would FOCUS on my 20 yard pin and then pick a small spot on the top 1/3rd of the kill zone. I rarely miss a deer since I stopped splitting pins. For me it just helped me to focus on a smaller point and it improved my shots. Maybe it made me commit to a specific yardage rather than a range? Either way I do not split pins, even when target shooting.
Maybe it is because you cant figure out where the pins go. Your sight is upside down! Lol
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Lol, ok so i did write my thoughts down backwards. Good catch. ;)
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Splitting the pins due to being unsure about the distance to the target. Don't do it, you'll miss every time (I did anyway). Now I just pick a distance, pick ONE pin and let the arrow fly. It's a much more effective way to kill a deer. ;)
so what do you do it you have a deer at 45 yds? Me being a somewhat competitive shooter at 3-D shoots split pins all the time.
I usually step back 5 yards and use my 50 yd pin.
Not really, but I guess I should have explained it better.
When I was younger and starting out bow hunting I would say "it looks like somewhere between 30 and 40". Problem being if it was 30 and I split the pins, but my 30 was at the bottom of the chest I would usually shoot under... Or if it was closer to 40 and my 40 pin was on the back...over the back the arrow would go.
I had better luck picking one pin and focusing on a specific hair/spot while aiming high or low on the target (with that specific pin). For example, if I thought the target was 25yards away, I would FOCUS on my 20 yard pin and then pick a small spot on the top 1/3rd of the kill zone. I rarely miss a deer since I stopped splitting pins. For me it just helped me to focus on a smaller point and it improved my shots. Maybe it made me commit to a specific yardage rather than a range? Either way I do not split pins, even when target shooting.
Maybe it is because you cant figure out where the pins go. Your sight is upside down! Lol
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Lol, ok so i did write my thoughts down backwards. Good catch. ;)
I kne what you meant but it was too easy
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Lots since i began bowhunting, but biggest was taking iffy shot because your afraid you wont get better one. I would much rather watch animal walk away than make poor shot.
There in lies the beauty of bowhunting!!! You have plenty of time, well at least in most states which have a prolonged season for bowhunters.
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Rushing the shot, your draw sequence should be just like when you practice. I'll be the first to admit I make tons of mistakes when hunting, it is inevitable. Just learn from them and keep after it, sooner or later you connect.
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More than once, in the excitement, I have pulled the arrow off the string and clanked it against the riser spooking the animal. Grossly mis-ranging an animal in the fog! Should have used my range finder, come to find out I would have had the time to do so.
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Using my neck instead of my eyes to locate the elk I stocked within 20 yards of.... oh hi :bash:.
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Getting addicted to it
:yeah: gets to be expensive real quick
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Where do I start? I think I have made them all until the next season then I find one I haven't thought of or I repeat one I forgot about.
1.For me the one that repeatly bites me in the ass is rushing the shot or another way of saying it is forgetting the basics of executing the shot.
2.One year it was my infatuation of wanting to watch the arrow hit the animal. Couldn't figure out why I had missed low every deer I shot at. After the third or forth deer it dawned on me I was dropping my arm so I could focus on the arrow.
3.Buck fever on does. Up to that point I had heard of it but didn't know what it was until the first doe that walked into my stand on my first archery hunt. I shook so bad from my toes to my head my arrow fell off my arrow rest and I almost fell down. Went home and sold my guns.
4. Climbed up a big oak tree with wide sweeping branches and didn't check for obstructions or shooting angles. Needles to say it was a great tree for seeing and shooting at deer but not for hitting deer. I emptied my quiver and with every shoot my cam or bow would hit part of the tree. To make matters worse I had to watch those deer feed under my stand for quite some time before I was able to get down and retrieve my arrows. Then I forgot about leaning my bow up against the truck when I unpacked and. Didn't remember it until I drove up onto the driveway two hours away. Yes,I ran it over and it was in several pieces when I went to pick it up that night.
5. Not that long ago, fast compound bows were in the 250fps range and to get a bow to shoot faster you would do all kinds of unthinkable things by today's standards. Like shoot an overdraw, shoot high poundage or shoot light arrows. If a little is good a lot must be better I use to think. I did all three at the same time. I bought a 90# 30" new Astro bow installed the longest overdraw I could find and shot. Short little 1914 Easton X7's off it and thought I was the *censored*. Until, I had a 170 class whitetail buck standing on my 40yrd marker looking out into an alfalfa field totally relaxed. I remember when I was at full draw thinking this is the easiest deer I have ever killed. When I touched off the release that deer squatted down jumped into the air and spun 180*. My fast arrow hit him square in the bung hole and penetrated the depth of the broad head. Note to self- noisey/loud fast bow doesn't kill deer, old slow QUIET bow killed lots of deer.
5. So excited to go hunting I forgot my release in the truck.
6. It was my turn to drive and dropped my buddy off at his area when I got to my spot I went to get my bow only to find my buddy like my bow better than his. Unfortunately, for him my bow is to long for him and I always carry a back up bow.
7. This one didn't exactly happen to me but happened to my buddy while we were hunting the wilderness back when re shot fingers. We sat down for a lunch snack and he put his finger tab down. Cracked out a sandwich and a couple of Grey Jays show up. Before he knew what was going on one of the camp robbers swooped down and flew off with his finger tab. I think he could have gotten it back if he wouldn't have jumped up and chased after that stupid bird.
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Getting addicted to it
:yeah: gets to be expensive real quick
Archery is for sure a money pit. If ya try to go cheap, it will just cost you more later.
Unfortunately, its too late, I'm already addicted.
Where I am fairly new to archery, writing down the various mistakes is just too painful at this point :(
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Can someone answer these simple questions...
If I am shooting "up hill" at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
If I am shooting "down hill at say...40 yards. Where do I place the 40 yard pin?
You are going to aim low in both those situations. How low depends on the angle of the shot.
If you think you can estimate the angle, you have the yardage, and carry a cell phone... this might work.
Let's say you have a target at 40 yards but a 30 degree incline....
On the calculator enter cos(30) x 40 and the answer will be about 35.
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Set up my treestand in a tree that was occupied by a colony of ants. Didn't notice it the morning I put it up. Dumped a truckload of apples 32 yards away from it. After letting it soak a few days climbed up into it and they bit me until I had to leave the tree. While sitting in the tall grass that evening the four point I was after came in and snorted at me for 20 minutes at 80 yards. So because of the apple investment KEPT the stand in that tree and only used it in mornings. Ended up getting really cold one morning and I got so stiff I lost my grip climbing down hitting every branch. You know that feeling when you're falling and you know you're gonna break your neck? My knee joint caught a branch and I hung there with my face 3 inches from the ground. Limped back to my truck. One hell of a bruise. That was 3 years ago. Fast forward to this year I'm picking apples for my camera set ups and lose my footing. Go to grab the branch that's behind me except it isn't. Fall out of that tree too. Yeah. My wrist still hurts but I didn't break anything.
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My biggest mistake has been not shooting when I get a chance, because I wanted to get just a little closer. Lost lots of animals to this
Yep, let it fly if it is a good shot and you are comfortable, don't try to make it a perfect shot...
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one thing that has happened to me more than once is thinking the animal is walking away when it's really feeding around, or I've had bull's tearing the place up and I thought they were walking off. waiting for a perfect shot placement has bit me quite a few times as well
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Saturday 1hr in, had a bull locate bugling to my south moving away from my location and as he drifted off I heard a brief grunt to my northwest. Did the math real quick guessing it to be a herd bull that didn't desire any other bull knowing his herd location and the brief grunt was to move them. Covered a couple hundred yards in a hurry, slowed to where I thought they might be and as I stepped over a log I looked down to check my foot placement, looked back up and out steps a 6x with a broken antler on the other. He was broadside at 35 yards level as perfect a shot as you can ask for, but I'm standing there without even an arrow knocked :bash: Froze in place and he ignored me, got behind a tree and knocked an arrow as he moved ahead into some small firs. Gave a low cow call angled away from his direction and he responded with a really low volume bugle. Lead cow that I didn't know was there cut back and began feeding in front of me with her calf, bull cut back and moved into another set of small firs below me with the lead cow in tow. At this point I figured screw it they aren't alarmed I'll just walk right right in there and see if I can get a shot. Moved through the firs and peeked around the last couple, had a 30 yard shot at the bull slightly quartered away. Started to draw back from behind cover, but I didn't notice the lead cow was just to my right and caught me. :bash:
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Not learning your lesson by keep listening to a hunting partner who 95% of the time "peters" out on scouting plans and then comes up with some lame excuse as to why he can't hunt elk right now. I'm screwed. Have camp all set up and now thinking about throwing in the towel and going home. Anyone wanna hunt the Mossyrock unit?
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Not learning your lesson by keep listening to a hunting partner who 95% of the time "peters" out on scouting plans and then comes up with some lame excuse as to why he can't hunt elk right now. I'm screwed. Have camp all set up and now thinking about throwing in the towel and going home. Anyone wanna hunt the Mossyrock unit?
Just make the best of it and keep at it by yourself if you can't find any partners. You can at least get some satisfaction out of sticking it out by yourself.
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I missed a small bull 2 days ago. I thought that I accounted for the downhill angle, but what I wasn't thinking of was the steady wind blowing directly at me. Grazed the top of his back and he lived to see another day. I'd also blame all the small branches and my small shooting lane, but that's Washington. Live and learn! :'(
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I have a pretty good one for this....
So last year opening weekend of early archery, I'm at the top of a ridge and see a small but legal bull (3x2 to be exact) walking along the creek. So i make my way down and around the ridge keeping my distance hoping to get downwind of this bull and let him come right to me. Long story short, I get within 80 yards of this young bull but there was a large patch of brush and twigs between us.... across the creek. There was a tree downed across the creek that I began to carefully walk across. As I got to the end of the log on the other side I slipped, lost my balance and went crashing to the ground. Goodbye bull :bash:. Atleast the only though I had going through m head was to just save my bow, dont break the bow man!!! So I held it out in front of me so that i wouldnt land on it and it worked, my bow is fine to this day.... Back wasn't though lol
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Tue. I called and got up to move on 10 min later and got busted by the elk that was coming in.
All week I have been hunting high til I found all the sign down in the nasty stuff.
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Showing up has been my biggest mistake someday not exclusive to bowhunting.
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My biggest mistake was not taking the shots when it was presented. I am haunted by 3 opportunities I had early in my bow hunting career where I wasn't prepared (mentally) when the shot opportunity presented itself and waited for no apparent reason. One was a beautiful mule deer buck during late archery that had his head buried in a small fir tree tearing it to shreds 25 yards from me, oblivious to my presence. I had an arrow knocked and decided I needed to crouch in the brush for a minute before taking the shot. He winded me and was gone. I was also 16 at the time.
Lesson learned: If you are always ready, you don't have to get ready. From the minute you step out of your rig, you are in kill mode, seize every opportunity.
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This being my first year Archery Elk hunting I feel I learned a ton in the 5 days in the field.
1) Always keep your reed call in your mouth, when you have a bumped Elk shuttling past you , you will need it to stop them, whistling doesn't seem to work on Elk as it does with Mule Deer.
2) When you think you are moving slow enough, move slower, listen to the woods. It was a constant battle reminding myself to slow down, seem to always be as soon as I thought there were no animals near by I would speed up and bump an Elk.
3) Guessing range across a steep creek bottom is tough, if you have time to range, range it.
4) Chasing a Bugle uphill is tough, what I thought was Elk shape was actually about 75% of the actual shape I needed to be in.
5)It is mentally taxing letting an animal saunter off because you had no good shot, but take comfort in knowing it was the right decision.
6)Wind is HUGE, I don't feel I made many wind mistakes this year as it was my main focus mentally but it needs to be stated again, without playing the wind you are wandering aimlessly through the woods.
7)Connecting your arrow on an animal is the highest of highs, losing blood trail and not finding the animal is the lowest of lows, it will be the toughest mental anguish you go through on a hunt but understand it happens, realize the mistake and correct it for next time, you owe it to the animal.
Hands down the best hunt I have been on to date! What a blast. :tup:
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Being impatient and rushing a stalk. probably cost me a bull on Wednesday.
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One year I filled my tag, now my wife expects it EVERY year 😳 I'm not nearly a good enough hunter to repeat.
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Trying to carefully nock my arrow so the sound doesn't spook an animal, but not controlling the arrow enough to keep it from bouncing off the riser and make an even bigger sound that does spook the animal. Opening morning should have been more successful. Oh Well :DOH:
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Trying to carefully nock my arrow so the sound doesn't spook an animal, but not controlling the arrow enough to keep it from bouncing off the riser and make an even bigger sound that does spook the animal. Opening morning should have been more successful. Oh Well :DOH:
Moleskin on the riser will help this.
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Knowing what tag you have RT, I will direct my bowhunting tip from an elk standpoint. I learned this lesson in Oregon a few years ago where I was trying to get ahead of a group of cows and a bull. I had worked my tail off for more than an hour and thought I lost them. I decided to sit down along the edge of the timber to take a break and of course, not a few minutes into the break, I catch movement out of the corner of my eye and here comes a few cows and the bull out in the open. I had no cover around me so any motion I made, they were going to catch and it ended up burning me. Now I try my best to take any and all breaks somewhere that I would also choose as a shooting position because you just never know when something might happen and you don't have time to move.
For elk, this is the best one. They often come in silent or when you don't expect them. ALWAYS expect them to show up. Just because they didn't respond vocally doesn't mean they aren't coming.
I'll tell you from experience, it's a bad feeling to be crunching away on protein bar and then turn around to see a bull watching you eat from 20 yards.
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Focusing only on the deer. Last year I shot branch because I didn't focus on anything between me and the deer at only 10 yards. If I had waited and actually looked, she would have stepped a little while feeding or I could have picked a different spot to aim. :bash:
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When behind cover, always draw your bow before stepping or leaning out to make the shot. Way less movement and a much faster shot.
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moving too quickly bumping into animals, watching my step more than my surroundings, letting the wind shift and not adjusting for it.....where do I stop?
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Mike, At least you got to nock an arrow opening day. I had the same thing happen the day after I talked to you guys in camp. Tiffany told me to think about the basics. I told her it was about buck fever and not the basics. :)
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And Moleskin works great for the bow, riser, rest and quiver. ;)
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This year:
Moved to quickly trying to get closer to a bugling bull
Being a single hunter and caller is tough, called in multiple bulls that would not step into the open because they thought they should see something or hear something close by.
On one of them, I should have at least tried to make a low cow sound to see if it would pull him the last few yards into the open :(
If you can hear yourself moving, SO CAN THEY!!!!!! Figured that one out this year also...
Overall I was in to much of a rush on things this year. I need to slow down and be more patient !
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Getting up right after dark to walk out. I was sitting by a field as I got up there was a herd funneling in the far side. I spooked them and they were not there the next day possible would have bedded in that field.
Not putting my rain gear on quick enough. Only having 2 elk quarter bags in my pack. Forgetting to sharpen my knife between my mule deer hunt and my elk hunt. Not test riding my bike before the season and assuming since I had a tune up recently it was good to go.
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Don't carry a push button call in your pocket.
Had one in the front pocket just after shooting light, I had a cow feeding 15 yards out. Crouched to get a look at how many feet were under the branches that were between us. Confident it was a lone cow I stood up to draw as she was feeding towards a nice open shooting lane. Heard this horrible squeak sound. :bash: Cow knows something is up and moves through too quickly for a shot. First time call ever made a noise in my pocket.
Usually have one mouth style call and a squeeze call as backup. Either squeeze call is gone or will hang from pack in the future, no more pockets for me.
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Getting mayonnaise on anything made of Sims Navcom material. Wife through a napkin in the back seat after making us some delectable sandwiches. Landed on my bow, but I thought nothing of it. Next day my Alpha-Shox dripped off the bow like they were made of bearing grease.
Giving your hunting partner 4 blade broadheads to test night before a turkey hunt. Sorry buddy!
One of the biggest mistakes I've made multiple times - Forgetting to practice with new rainwear before season. Along with that would be not cutting off the cords Sitka Gear attaches to their zippers. Seems even if I practice and have no problems they always catch the string when an animal is the target!!
Not marking your string where the peep sight sits. Peeps catch on all kinds of stuff. Doesn't take much to through the sights off.
Not packing extra batteries for your rangefinder.
Seeing a 180 class buck run into a small bush. Seeing antlers as the animal comes out of the bush and assuming it is the same one that entered.
Thinking that larger bodied muledeer with 25" high antlers can't hide in 12" tall sage brush :o
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I too have wondered about the mule deer in sage brush as well as how a coyote can vanish in a totally flat wheat stubble field. :dunno:
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A mistake I continue to make...
I'll be climbing a big hill to a bedding area or mid-day feeding spot. Trying to be quiet and slow though scrabbling and rattling brush is a noisy pursuit. The quads start to hurt from the slow, deliberate and controlled steps.
I'll get 80% of the way up the hill and get tired and then I'll convince myself that, "there is nothing up there anyway..." So I'll charge up the rest of the way, eager to rest at the top and glass the other side. It will be then that I'll see a deer or elk staring me down from 50 yards - just over the peak - and then busting.
This is a bad habit that one can get away with oftentimes while packing a modern or muzzleloader. Not so much with the archery tackle.
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Trying to get to close! I damn near stepped on a 6X6 bull that I had at 40 yards and tried to get closer!! He bedded up and I didnt know it and I literally dang near stepped on him!
Watch behind you when calling solo.
Bulls come in silent and I mean SILENT!
Even though you stick a bull at really close range does not mean he dies!!! That one will haunt me for a long long time..
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My biggest mistake was buying a bow 1st bow at a big box store in fife. Now I only buy and get any work done at a real archery shop.
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being completely new and yet to hunt, this thread is most interesting to me. lots of things to think about and remember. should help keep my list shorter and narrower. keep em coming!
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Walking up to the edge of rimrocks to glass the area below for Muleys. Duh, Muleys like to bed just below the edge of rimrocks. ❌
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#1 Patience
Tenacity
Aim small, miss small.. Pick a specific point on the animal, not a general area.
Be clear of obstructions. I've missed three bulls due to a branch or twig that I didn't see because I was so focused on the animal.
Check the wind frequently as it will change as the air heats up.
Dozens of other mistakes I've made that you'll find as you go.
Good luck!