Post by: Open-sights on July 23, 2015, 02:39:06 PM
It's Jeff again. I posted a few months back about being drawn for an elk tag on the Merrill Ring Pshhyt tree farm: you might remember the post? Anyway, I was just about to pull the trigger on buying the Knight Disc Extreme with the western kit based on all the great things I've read on here, and because of a lot of what Sabotloader has to say. But, a weird thing happened:
My uncle and I are talking, he says he has a friend that just passed away, and he was getting into muzzleloading. Long story short, we contact the widow, she has a Knight Bighorn in the box and plastic, never shot, unused. I ask to buy it, she wants to give it to me, I refuse and make her take $200 cash. Basically, I got a brand new Bighorn for $200. I still feel badly for only giving her $200.
So, this is not EXACTLY the rifle I wanted, but it's close enough and it's a Knight. I've read lots and lots on Woodleigh bullets, hornady bullets, sabots, loads, etc.
Here are my two question:
1) If you have shot and quickly killed an elk using a Knight Bighorn, what was your load. Please respond only if you have specific firsthand knowledge of this specific rifle and using it to kill an elk.
2). Experiences, issues, anything you'd like to add about the Knight Big Horn. Good or bad. Sights, lock time, cleaning, anything.
Thanks in advance for the wealth of knowledge you guys all contribute on this board. Promise to repay the favor if I harvest an bull this October with specific info and pictures. Let's hope I didn't just jinx myself!
Post by: steeleywhopper on July 23, 2015, 02:56:18 PM
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/barnes-spit-fire-t-ez-290-grain-50-caliber-flat-base-15-rounds?a=1583072
Post by: Firedogg on July 23, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on July 23, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
Hey fellas,
It's Jeff again. I posted a few months back about being drawn for an elk tag on the Merrill Ring Pshhyt tree farm: you might remember the post? Anyway, I was just about to pull the trigger on buying the Knight Disc Extreme with the western kit based on all the great things I've read on here, and because of a lot of what Sabotloader has to say. But, a weird thing happened:
My uncle and I are talking, he says he has a friend that just passed away, and he was getting into muzzleloading. Long story short, we contact the widow, she has a Knight Bighorn in the box and plastic, never shot, unused. I ask to buy it, she wants to give it to me, I refuse and make her take $200 cash. Basically, I got a brand new Bighorn for $200. I still feel badly for only giving her $200.
So, this is not EXACTLY the rifle I wanted, but it's close enough and it's a Knight. I've read lots and lots on Woodleigh bullets, hornady bullets, sabots, loads, etc.
Here are my two question:
1) If you have shot and quickly killed an elk using a Knight Bighorn, what was your load. Please respond only if you have specific firsthand knowledge of this specific rifle and using it to kill an elk.
Not from a Big Horn but from different knights.
Dynamit Noble 1075+ cap
Powder 110 gr. T7-3f
Sabot: MMP 457-458/50 Orange sabot
Bullet: both a Bloodline 458x300 gr. DOA 0r
Bullet: Lehigh .458x305 gr. (45-70 rifle bullet) in a HPH 24 sabot black
And before the Lehigh/Bloodlines a .458 Nosler Partition in the Orange sabot.
Bloodline 300 gr. DOA
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FLehigh300DOA.jpg&hash=745411efe692901bdf43e61ca24d9c314dafcd5b) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Lehigh300DOA.jpg.html)
Lehigh 305
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2F458-305.jpg&hash=ed23af00ee24ea555cd266b7bac7ff6ebbfd8e22) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/458-305.jpg.html)
2). Experiences, issues, anything you'd like to add about the Knight Big Horn. Good or bad. Sights, lock time, cleaning, anything. [/quote]
I have two MK 85's, a Knight Wolverine and had one Big Horn - all of these are plunger guns and really did not have a problem with them they are a pretty simple rifle.
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Thanks in advance for the wealth of knowledge you guys all contribute on this board. Promise to repay the favor if I harvest an bull this October with specific info and pictures. Let's hope I didn't just jinx myself!
Post by: Soady on July 23, 2015, 08:35:35 PM
I would imagine the wife knows in her heart her husband would want that rifle to go to a fellow hunter so do that Bighorn and the gentleman proud ......hunt that Bighorn for all it is, and bring the widow some prime cuts from whatever game you harvest for years to come. After all she is a hunters widow and she deserves the support. :tup:
Post by: Open-sights on July 23, 2015, 11:49:06 PM
What do most of you guys use for powder. I have some Pyrodex RS, BUT LOOKS LIKE LOTS OF FOLKS LIKE TRIP 7. What gives? School me.
Post by: Wose on July 24, 2015, 01:21:08 PM
I put a Williams Peep sight on my Bighorn. WWW.gunpartscorp.com had them for the cheapest. I didn't have to change my front sight, but your mileage my vary.
I get 1" to 2" groups out of mine using either 2 50 grain, or two 60 grain "magnum" triple 7 pellets ignited by musket caps. The group open up to 3 to 4 inches if I use three 50 grain pellets, and my chronograph says I'm really not getting that much more velocity.
I have used Hornady XTP bullets designed for the .44 magnum in 300 grains, and Hornady 350 Grain interlocks in .458 (designed for the .45-70) with appropriate sabots and get good groups with both. I got good results with Hornday SST's. I don't use them anymore as I feel like I don't need that high of a BC bullet for the ranges I'm shooting, which is 125 and in.
I use this bullet starter:
http://www.amazon.com/CVA-BPI-Powerbelt-Bullet-Starter/dp/B000R9T3XO/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437768754&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=cva+trophy+bullet+starter
And it works fine.
I did find that the comb height of the stock was a little low for me. I put a stock pouch on similar to this:
http://www.triadtactical.com/Triad-Stock-Pack.html
This helped. I may put a little strip of foam rubber on the top of the comb of the stock, then put the pouch on over that next time I shoot, as I feel like my eye will align a little more naturally if it was a smidge higher yet.
I've not killed an Elk with my Bighorn yet, as I've not muzzleloader hunted for elk yet. They just opened a general muzzleloader elk season in my unit, so that's what I'm doing this year.
Maybe the widow who sold you the rifle would appreciate some game meat, now that he husband isn't there to provide it?
Post by: usmc74 on July 24, 2015, 07:59:42 PM
Knight Bighorn, 290 Barnes TMZ, 110 gr T7, 3F powder, RWS musket cap. 68 yd shot on bedded bull, he just rolled over and died.
Mine has the Williams peep and front fiber optic per Sabotloader's posts.
I shoot really good groups with the 300gr SST, but stopped using due to conflicting terminal stories, I changed to the barnes. They were also accurate. The recovered bullet was a picture perfect 6 peeled back petals. I was so impressed, I have over 100 of the Barnes now.
I stopped using my pyrodex because it seems much more corrosive than T7