Post by: Open-sights on July 24, 2015, 06:59:37 AM
What's your opinion on this bullet?
http://www.knightrifles.com/product-category/muzzleloader-bullets/bloodline-muzzleloader-bullets/
I am thinking I want to use this bullet. I like heavy. I was thinking 110 grains Pyrodex RS. Anybody shoot this? Better alternative with same weight or heavier? Jeff
Post by: Sabotloader on July 24, 2015, 07:51:47 AM
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What's your opinion on this bullet?
http://www.knightrifles.com/product-category/muzzleloader-bullets/bloodline-muzzleloader-bullets/
I am thinking I want to use this bullet. I like heavy. I was thinking 110 grains Pyrodex RS. Anybody shoot this? Better alternative with same weight or heavier? Jeff
I have not shot that particular bullet so I can not offer any first hand information. I have shot a lot of the 300 grain and even the .500x325. All of these bullets work on the basic principle and they all seem to have awesome Terminal Ballistics.
With your suggested powder load it should provide the performance you are looking for.
Post by: Open-sights on July 24, 2015, 12:11:00 PM
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Post by: WSU on July 24, 2015, 12:37:55 PM
I didn't try the Bloodlines in my new CVA Optima because I heard they were real tight and difficult to load. Instead I bought some Barnes 290 grain TEZs. Glad I did, they load easy but aren't too loose and they shoot great.
I've done the same but just taken the sabot from the tez and used them with bigger bullets. Worked great.
Post by: Sabotloader on July 24, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
How do you like the red sabots that come with bloodlines? Are they too tight or just right? Do you like them or use the orange ones or something even different?
The red sabots that come with the bullet is the same sabot as the Orange MMP - but for the Knight contract they are dyed 'red'.
Which rifle are shooting... New CVA with the .499 bores are awful tight. Older bores you shouldn't have a problem.
Had to go check - shooting a Knight Big Horn - you should have no problem loading this bullet. If it is a brand new Big Horn it might be tight today but after some shooting the bore will loosen somewhat.
Post by: Open-sights on August 01, 2015, 08:00:32 AM
Here there are. They are big, hard, tough looking bullets. They are long suckers, too. I hope they shoot good and are easy to load out of my new Bighorn.
Post by: Open-sights on August 01, 2015, 08:04:15 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on August 01, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
Is the procedure for shooting sabots to clean between each shot?
Since I believe that you will be using a cap ignition - it is not necessary or critical to run a patch after each shot. If you were using a 209 ignition there will/be a build up down low in the barrel that will increase with each shot. I normally can get 4-5 shots with a W209 primer before the 'crud ring' becomes a problem.
Another thing that can cause a problem is the oil that you might use in the bore. Try to use a synthetic oil versus a petroleum based oil.
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Is it critical that I use a special bullet start and ramrod tip for these bullets as to not deform them, or will I be okay we a flat attachment to push them down the barrel?
I use a loading/cleaning jag attached to the ram rod for loading - it is probably not critical for a few shots especially a quick reload.
A small jag like this could be screwed into your ram rod and left in place while hunting
(https://secure.tcarms.com/store/images/thumbnails/280/169/product/3/thumbnail_9067Medium.jpg)
https://secure.tcarms.com/store/universal-loading-tip-and-cleaning-jag-cat-no-9071.html
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They seem damn hard. I think with 110 or 120 grains of powder I should be able to pull off a shoulder shot on a bull elk if under 100 yards.
They are hard! and with those loads - you will not have a problem going through the shoulder even to 200 yards. But it is critical that you drive the bullet hard so that it achieves stabilization. The length of that bullet out of a 1/28 requires velocity.
Post by: Open-sights on August 01, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on August 01, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
Great! Thanks Sabotloader. You are a wealth of knowledge. I truly appreciate your willingness to help others. So, do you think 110 -120 grains of Pyrodex RS will be enough to get the needed velocity? I used to shoot 110 with the 405 grain Powerbelts, but those weren't near as long as these. I'm excited about this bullet! It's a really cool design!
Het Jeff, since it is Pryrodex - start with 120 that would be like around 100 grs. of T7 see what it does. If the bullet tumbles then you will know you need more - but I really think it will work for you...