Post by: MLBowhunting on July 26, 2015, 09:21:29 PM
After the first week soak I cut my bait way back. I go half a bucket off apples and half corn for a dump cycle of every 2-3 days. Give it a shot and add what you like to eat. I do know that my group of bucks love carrots. :tup:
Post by: gee_unit360 on July 26, 2015, 10:06:06 PM
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Post by: MLBowhunting on July 26, 2015, 11:50:39 PM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 27, 2015, 04:20:49 AM
Post by: lokidog on July 27, 2015, 04:55:45 AM
I'm lucky in that I can just toss a few apples out a couple times a day, most days, which keeps them coming by to see if any have "fallen" but doesn't bankrupt the apple fund.
I also try to not bait in the evening as I try to condition them to come looking in daylight.
Good luck everyone.
Post by: DoubleJ on July 27, 2015, 06:14:34 AM
Post by: CP on July 27, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
This is what I’ve found:
• Salt blocks = summer yes, after August no, elk seem to lick it into September
• Apples = Yes, they attract coyotes but deer & elk like them
• COB = no, deer pick out the corn, rodents eat the rest, starts to stink after awhile
• Molasses = mixed results, not worth the mess and expense
• Corn = Yes, deer & elk love it
If I spread it on the ground the rodents and birds make off with most of it. I’ve tried these PVC tube feeders and they seem to keep it safer and if it gets rained on it doesn’t rot.
My next experiment is going to be peanut butter.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 27, 2015, 06:55:54 AM
Post by: CP on July 27, 2015, 07:30:22 AM
Post by: MLBowhunting on July 27, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 27, 2015, 07:37:35 AM
Where's a good place to get cull (free or cheap) apples?
Brewster
Post by: vandeman17 on July 27, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
Where's a good place to get cull (free or cheap) apples?
I know lots of orchard owners so I have unlimited access to apples. I never use them though :o
Post by: h20hunter on July 27, 2015, 07:59:24 AM
Peanuts are another one........I was picking up some cob one year and saw a 25lb bag of peanuts in the shell. Deer loved them.
Pressed blocks....I've put them out and the deer nibble on them but mainly the bears will roll them around and eat them like a big sugar cube. In my opinion not worth the cost when a 50lb bag of cob is half the price of a block.
Post by: Wacenturion on July 27, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 27, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Oat
Barley
Typically sweetened with a little molasses.
Post by: mburrows on July 27, 2015, 08:36:47 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 27, 2015, 08:37:47 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 27, 2015, 08:38:53 AM
How long do your apples usually stay good for? Do some of them rot before the deer get to them?
Your apples won't rot. Deer will eat all of them when they find them. I mean all of them.....
Post by: h20hunter on July 27, 2015, 08:49:55 AM
Here is one of my old threads. Some interesting stuff I learned then....how long it DOESN'T take for the bears to come in when they know what you are up to.....some side by side comparison of three types of bait and which they prefer....the fact that yotes are little buggers that will steal your apples.....
Post by: Transka on July 27, 2015, 08:58:33 AM
have tried apples but seemed to be a hit and miss. I do know that the stump licker and molasses stuff is very strong scent and seems to brig them in as well.
Post by: Seahawk12 on July 27, 2015, 09:00:32 AM
Post by: CP on July 27, 2015, 09:18:31 AM
..the fact that yotes are little buggers that will steal your apples.....
:yeah:
filthy little thieves
Post by: Caseknife on July 27, 2015, 09:22:12 AM
Post by: nastybynature on July 27, 2015, 09:34:00 AM
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Post by: CP on July 27, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
Last year I had a free source of apples but that’s now gone. The only feed store that I know of in Everett really reams non-members.
Wally World is the cheapest that I have found corn (when they have it that is) :
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Remington-Deer-Corn-40-lbs/16778272
Sugar beets are a good idea – I know where I can glean some after the harvest this fall.
Post by: Wacenturion on July 27, 2015, 09:50:02 AM
Was able to get a trophy rock out along with some bagged deer attractant and some buck jam memorial day weekend. Have not been back since to see results. Also have a couple Maverick blinds to get placed. First picture is of my two blinds when they were delivered. Next two photos show how they look in the field (stock photos).
For those using corn do you find that it gets cleaned up or does it tend to mold if not utilized? I'll be using a couple 30 gallon Moultrie Pro Magnum Hanging Feeders to avoid bear damage. I'm sure I'll have a few other questions.
http://www.moultriefeeders.com/moultrie-30-gallon-metal-hanging-feeder
Post by: Wacenturion on July 27, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
Post by: emac on July 27, 2015, 10:20:48 AM
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Post by: dmv9 on July 27, 2015, 12:29:30 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
H2O....thanks for posting the link to your old thread. I took the time to read it. Getting ready to hang a couple feeders and several cams on some property I recently purchased in eastern Washington. Was hoping to have everything out by now, but plans didn't work out.
Was able to get a trophy rock out along with some bagged deer attractant and some buck jam memorial day weekend. Have not been back since to see results. Also have a couple Maverick blinds to get placed. First picture is of my two blinds when they were delivered. Next two photos show how they look in the field (stock photos).
For those using corn do you find that it gets cleaned up or does it tend to mold if not utilized? I'll be using a couple 30 gallon Moultrie Pro Magnum Hanging Feeders to avoid bear damage. I'm sure I'll have a few other questions.
http://www.moultriefeeders.com/moultrie-30-gallon-metal-hanging-feeder
In E-WA I'd be dumping a bag or 2 of trace mineral salt with selenium on those sites. They'll hit it really hard till the velvet starts coming off.
Post by: baldopepper on July 27, 2015, 01:01:42 PM
H2O....thanks for posting the link to your old thread. I took the time to read it. Getting ready to hang a couple feeders and several cams on some property I recently purchased in eastern Washington. Was hoping to have everything out by now, but plans didn't work out.
Was able to get a trophy rock out along with some bagged deer attractant and some buck jam memorial day weekend. Have not been back since to see results. Also have a couple Maverick blinds to get placed. First picture is of my two blinds when they were delivered. Next two photos show how they look in the field (stock photos).
For those using corn do you find that it gets cleaned up or does it tend to mold if not utilized? I'll be using a couple 30 gallon Moultrie Pro Magnum Hanging Feeders to avoid bear damage. I'm sure I'll have a few other questions.
http://www.moultriefeeders.com/moultrie-30-gallon-metal-hanging-feeder
I used the "deer corn" from Bass Pro shop all winter in my feeder. (they had it pretty cheap in Tacoma) It got cleaned up on a daily basis. I've used crack corn in the past and it molds up very quickly if you allow it to get wet. Deer and turkey get used to hearing the spinner go off in the feeder and come on the run when it goes off. Make sure you have a spinner with guard around it or put up some kind of guard around the feeder-deer will lick the spinner if they can get to it and either plug it up or drain it in a hurry. I don't want to use apples around my place because, frankly, it draws in the bears and I don't really want them that close to the house. I've tried a couple of different commercial attractants, but I really haven't seen where they made much difference in attracting the deer.
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 27, 2015, 01:12:56 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on July 27, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
Post by: NWBREW on July 27, 2015, 01:27:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2015, 02:44:45 PM
I always used salt because it lasts forever and I could only get over to check my cameras every 2 months or so. No way could I keep the critters in apples and corn if that's what I was using and I didn't have access to 100's of pounds of apples.
I did put about 10 pounds of apples on one camera along with 2 gallons of deer cane liquid one night. Went back to it the next day and all the apples were gone overnight. I had pictures of 4-5 elk on it over that night.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 27, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 27, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
My feed never gets wet. If it does by chance gets wet I only loose a little bit.
Post by: Wacenturion on July 27, 2015, 03:56:24 PM
jackalope.....Putting up a couple cellular cams so I don't need to go in very often.....as I'm hours away. :(
Also putting out a couple regular cams as decoys for potential theft that I'll check when I'm there. Hopefully the cellular cams will be able to take pictures of any trespassers as well. Don't expect to lose any as the property itself is somewhat viewable by the neighbors as well as being steep and private on three sides.
Does the COB get eaten quickly? Does ground moisture from rain or snow effect it's attractiveness?
Post by: bobcat on July 27, 2015, 04:05:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
Thanks for all the great comments. Apparently the Moutrie feeders will run for a pretty long time if you use a lower setting on number of times and duration. Some of reviews I read said a couple months depending.
jackalope.....Putting up a couple cellular cams so I don't need to go in very often.....as I'm hours away. :(
Also putting out a couple regular cams as decoys for potential theft that I'll check when I'm there. Hopefully the cellular cams will be able to take pictures of any trespassers as well. Don't expect to lose any as the property itself is somewhat viewable by the neighbors as well as being steep and private on three sides.
Does the COB get eaten quickly? Does ground moisture from rain or snow effect it's attractiveness?
I'd definitely put some salt down in that case. Get it at the feed store. I can't say whether blocks work better or worse than loose...I just use loose, with selenium.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 27, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
Also bought some more whole kernel corn today. Gonna put it down with apples and see how it goes.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 27, 2015, 04:16:03 PM
I keep trying to find the salt with selenium but my feed store doesn't carry the se30, only se90. Is that OK or too much?
Also bought some more whole kernel corn today. Gonna put it down with apples and see how it goes.
Do they carry sheep salt? That often has selenium in it.
Post by: erk444 on July 27, 2015, 04:55:49 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on July 27, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
Post by: earlmarne on July 27, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 27, 2015, 06:22:15 PM
I keep trying to find the salt with selenium but my feed store doesn't carry the se30, only se90. Is that OK or too much?
Also bought some more whole kernel corn today. Gonna put it down with apples and see how it goes.
Do they carry sheep salt? That often has selenium in it.
I'll check, thanks for the info.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 27, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
Deer will eat ALL the corn, All of it. They love it.. They eat it before the alfalfa or the Deer Acres block I put out. I've only had one bear on my bait in 5 years...and it was once and he never came back. I had him on my trail camera and he was humping the block like a monkey.
That was me, :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: TRD1911 on July 27, 2015, 07:47:44 PM
Post by: jasnt on July 27, 2015, 07:55:48 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on July 27, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2015, 10:29:56 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 27, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
Any nutritional value to the deer eating so much corn?Just some basic carbs. I don't think they eat enough to really have that much impact. Usually they hit the pile once or twice a day for a small visit (1/2 hr) and then head off to eat all the other stuff in the forest (other people's bait piles :chuckle:). Be like eating a donut or two a day in addition to your normal diet.
Post by: huntnnw on July 27, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
Post by: baldopepper on July 28, 2015, 06:34:06 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on July 28, 2015, 07:52:38 AM
Try northwest beef from Wolfkill feed and fertilizer to replace salt and expensive vitamin/mineral deer products. It is balanced for our region and supplies the little things in the correct ratios and again saves dollars.
Be very careful with high energy feeds like corn. Little ruminants like deer need weeks to adjust. A belly full of corn equals a dead deer.
Try to use what is available close by. Wheat, barley, oats, peas, garbs, canola might be a good fit. These, like corn, will cause problems without caution. You are feeding a fermentation vat (rumen). All changes must be slow and consistent. When you quickly alter the chemistry of a deer stomach the stomach and deer die.
Post by: CP on July 28, 2015, 08:06:53 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on July 28, 2015, 09:01:44 AM
Have lots of turkeys on or in close proximity to the property so I'm expecting them to keep things cleaned up if anything is left. Elk are also present. In addition there are lots of quail, a few pheasants and obviously grouse. So they too should benefit somewhat. I also have no doubt that there are bears in the immediate area.
Next year food plots are on the menu as well as some sharecrop farming. I closed too late on the property (end of May) to get a early start. Coupled with the hot weather, farming or plots were just not in the cards. I will be planting a good number of trees this November when things are going dormant so they can develop some root growth over the winter and into the spring. Of course I'll be using t-posts and wire to make sure they survive any deer/elk damage the first several years.
Post by: baldopepper on July 28, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
Post by: jasnt on July 28, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
Post by: mburrows on July 28, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
Post by: CP on July 28, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
What are everybody's thoughts on the pvc gravity feeders that can attached to a tree?
They work fine.
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 28, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
What are everybody's thoughts on the pvc gravity feeders that can attached to a tree?
Make sure to have good straps, bears will try and tear them off.
Post by: CP on July 28, 2015, 01:59:45 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on July 28, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
I did notice good ground moisture on the property into April. I imagine that abuptly ended when the heat wave set in. That's one reason we opted not to gamble on farming part of it this year. Going to be a fun journey....expensive, but fun. :chuckle:
On a different note, my youngest daughter drew a cow tag in the unit wherte the property is located with just one point. I can now combine tree plantings with elk guiding. :tup:
Post by: NWghostgetter on August 19, 2015, 12:49:54 PM
Post by: abhold87 on August 19, 2015, 01:03:42 PM
Post by: Z_rock01 on August 19, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
Any ways my :twocents: :twocents:
Post by: abhold87 on August 19, 2015, 01:16:25 PM
I use Critter Lick.... and works awesome... I have had up to 9 bucks in a two day span.. and a total of 15 deer in those two days. I pack out a couple miles so i don't want to pack alot of weight. The critter Lick tends to bring them in on a regular basis. I replace Critter Lick every two weeks, Based on the consumption. more deer means i need to replace sooner.
Any ways my :twocents: :twocents:
Awesome thank you. I saw that it is 79.99$ for 6 bags
Post by: Kazekurt on August 19, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Post by: jasnt on August 19, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
"A belly full of corn equals a dead deer". I'm not sure this is true for mule deer. A good friend of mine loses a good chunk of the outside span of his corn circles every year to the mule deer frequenting his farm and the only dead deer with bellys full of corn I've seen dead in the area died because my arrow or bullet took them out. They always have tons of fat on their carcass's and taste amazing. Crop fed deer can't be beat in my opinion. They certainly eat a ton of alfalfa as well but corn is a major staple in their diet.the whitetails visiting my plot don't fill there belly. They eat a little then go eat clover then come back to the corn then get a drink then gaze some more then back to the corn. Rarely do the eat for more than a few min before eating something else
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 19, 2015, 07:01:04 PM
Post by: Kazekurt on August 19, 2015, 07:04:53 PM
"A belly full of corn equals a dead deer". I'm not sure this is true for mule deer. A good friend of mine loses a good chunk of the outside span of his corn circles every year to the mule deer frequenting his farm and the only dead deer with bellys full of corn I've seen dead in the area died because my arrow or bullet took them out. They always have tons of fat on their carcass's and taste amazing. Crop fed deer can't be beat in my opinion. They certainly eat a ton of alfalfa as well but corn is a major staple in their diet.the whitetails visiting my plot don't fill there belly. They eat a little then go eat clover then come back to the corn then get a drink then gaze some more then back to the corn. Rarely do the eat for more than a few min before eating something else
This is what I have observed as well. I'll see them nibbling on the corn for awhile, then they'll eat some alfalfa or grass, then back to the corn. (They Repeat this process for several hours)
Post by: huntnnw on August 19, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 20, 2015, 12:17:43 AM
Post by: Z_rock01 on August 20, 2015, 08:12:31 AM
Post by: CP on August 20, 2015, 08:14:02 AM
Post by: predatorG on August 20, 2015, 12:13:26 PM
Post by: Carp Commander on August 20, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Will the Mule Deer come into a bait stand?
Does the bait change for Mule Deer?
Post by: predatorG on August 20, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
I have a couple places in the sage brush I have thought would work well.
Will the Mule Deer come into a bait stand?
Does the bait change for Mule Deer?
I think that the corn should work fine, maybe even better since they may be used to it.
Post by: jasonl84 on August 21, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 21, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
Post by: earlmarne on August 21, 2015, 03:31:16 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on August 21, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
Not sure for the summer, but I've had luck with feeding the blacktails Del's Allstock pellets. They seem to like them. I will put apples with it to get them to try it, but then they seem to eat it on their own afterwards.
I'm lucky in that I can just toss a few apples out a couple times a day, most days, which keeps them coming by to see if any have "fallen" but doesn't bankrupt the apple fund.
I also try to not bait in the evening as I try to condition them to come looking in daylight.
Good luck everyone.
Allstock is the ticket for bts.
Post by: Ogre on August 22, 2015, 02:48:38 AM
Post by: erk444 on August 22, 2015, 06:19:05 AM
Careful with all stock and Blackies if your baiting in an isolated area like an island or something. I may have done more harm than good with it :bdid: I believe in may have been the corn.Not sure for the summer, but I've had luck with feeding the blacktails Del's Allstock pellets. They seem to like them. I will put apples with it to get them to try it, but then they seem to eat it on their own afterwards.
I'm lucky in that I can just toss a few apples out a couple times a day, most days, which keeps them coming by to see if any have "fallen" but doesn't bankrupt the apple fund.
I also try to not bait in the evening as I try to condition them to come looking in daylight.
Good luck everyone.
Allstock is the ticket for bts.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 22, 2015, 07:17:25 AM
I keep trying to find the salt with selenium but my feed store doesn't carry the se30, only se90. Is that OK or too much?
Also bought some more whole kernel corn today. Gonna put it down with apples and see how it goes.
SE90 is the highest PPM I've found and what we use. It has helped with more fawns being born in our area. I do believe.....
Post by: jasnt on August 22, 2015, 07:59:02 AM
I am just curious...how long does it take before you see activity at a new bait site? I have never baited before but have been really considering it the last couple of years.all depends on the area you put it. Almost all mine have been hit by day 2or3. Some time it's only hours after I leave
Post by: jasonl84 on August 22, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
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Post by: PNWheckle on August 23, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Post by: CP on August 23, 2015, 05:32:57 PM
A day or so later he comes back eats the apple that he pissed on :yike:, and the rest of apples, rips the bottom out of the tube feeder, then lies down and licks up the 5 gallons of corn that came spewing out. He came back every day after that to sniff the feeder tube and chew on it. >:(
After all that this Tenaway trophy bull :drool: comes along and sniffs the feed tube.
Weird … :dunno: Looks like I'm done feeding for awhile.
Post by: TRD1911 on August 24, 2015, 08:46:32 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 24, 2015, 08:48:23 PM
Post by: jasnt on August 25, 2015, 05:39:40 AM
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Post by: nwwanderer on August 25, 2015, 06:43:30 AM
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:45:40 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on August 25, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
They also had Primos Monkey Corn in stock....half corn and half deer attractant for $9 something a bag.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 25, 2015, 10:00:39 AM
Post by: jasnt on August 25, 2015, 10:00:56 AM
Post by: Seabass on August 25, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
Picked up 320 lbs. at the Walmart in Shelton yesterday. Price was $5.95 per 40 lb. sack. Nice thing about this stuff is that the package date is printed on the bottom seam. All the ones I got were packaged July 13, 2015. Nice to know it's new stuff. It also appears Walmart switched from the Remington brand to the now Wildgame Innovations brand.
They also had Primos Monkey Corn in stock....half corn and half deer attractant for $9 something a bag.
It makes ABSOLUTELY no difference how old the corn is! It's dry......it doesn't go bad. You guys are WAAAAYYY over thing all of this.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 26, 2015, 12:53:27 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on August 26, 2015, 08:58:17 AM
"Deer eat rotting apples. They will eat 25 year old corn."
May indeed be true, but nice to know first that it's from an outfit that specializes in deer feed(so as not to have a bunch of junk in it to clog feeders) as well as being relatively new as far as harvest.
Ask yourself a question...you are looking at two piles of deer feed in sacks.....one was packaged a month or so ago and the other was packaged two years ago. Same price....which one are you buying? :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 09:07:05 AM
Post by: CP on August 26, 2015, 09:11:26 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
Where do you get bulk feed?There's a farm west of Spokane that sells by the pound.
Post by: Wacenturion on August 26, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 26, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 11:35:27 AM
Agree with you and probably will buy bulk in the future. Problem is property is 6 hours away from me on the eastside, as I'm on the westside. Next time I'll get it somewhere in route, but as far as my upcoming trip, there are too many t's to cross and i's to dot to spend the time locating a source. :chuckle:I hear ya. It's so easy to go grab a bag as I need it. But if I plan ahead and want lots I will go and buy bulk. I try to get 400+ lb when I go at least.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
You know why there isn't a deer baiting 201 class? Because it's no more complicated than 101! Open bag poor on ground.
If you wanted to really impact the outcome of your hunt we would be discussing the WHERE to put bait not WHAT bait with!
Post by: jasnt on August 26, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Wacenturion......I have literally bought tons and tons of corn from many different places. Never once considered when it was put in the bag. So......I asked myself the question you asked me to ask myself....I would pick the cheaper one regardless of the "born on date" because IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.I'd have to agree. Where you place the bait is far more important than what you use for bait! May need a new thread. Baiting 201, where to place bait to maximize success
You know why there isn't a deer baiting 201 class? Because it's no more complicated than 101! Open bag poor on ground.
If you wanted to really impact the outcome of your hunt we would be discussing the WHERE to put bait not WHAT bait with!
Post by: Bango skank on August 26, 2015, 10:16:09 PM
You know why there isn't a deer baiting 201 class? Because it's no more complicated than 101! Open bag poor on ground.
Look at jarhead chase's post. He hasnt had a single buck come into his bait during shooting hours. That is because there is a lot more that goes into baiting than opening some bag of crap and pouring it on the ground. At least if you want to take a mature buck. People dont understand that, and that is why a lot of folks are trying to make it illegal. They think its just pour some corn or apples on the ground, shoot your big buck and game over. Not even close to the reality.
Post by: huntnnw on August 26, 2015, 10:32:12 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on August 26, 2015, 11:35:27 PM
Wacenturion......I have literally bought tons and tons of corn from many different places. Never once considered when it was put in the bag. So......I asked myself the question you asked me to ask myself....I would pick the cheaper one regardless of the "born on date" because IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
You know why there isn't a deer baiting 201 class? Because it's no more complicated than 101! Open bag poor on ground.
If you wanted to really impact the outcome of your hunt we would be discussing the WHERE to put bait not WHAT bait with!
I didn't say buy the cheaper one in my question. I said.....
"Ask yourself a question...you are looking at two piles of deer feed in sacks.....one was packaged a month or so ago and the other was packaged two years ago. Same price....which one are you buying?"
Same price......nothing about cheaper. Hey, not disputing it makes a difference or not, but a few years ago folks were complaining about crud in the Wally World corn and was plugging feeders. Given the choice I'll take the newer, cleaner corn to avoid that potential problem.
I only mentioned where and what I bought as well as the package date. I'm not advocating anything other than that. In that respect you guys are over thinking it. :chuckle:
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 27, 2015, 12:05:23 AM
Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 12:52:27 AM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 27, 2015, 01:20:37 AM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 27, 2015, 01:22:18 AM
Ask yourself a question...you are looking at two piles of deer feed in sacks.....one was packaged a month or so ago and the other was packaged two years ago. Same price....which one are you buying? :chuckle:
I wouldn't even look at packaged date, just the price.
Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 01:41:41 AM
Ive never looked at a date on feed
Post by: Miles on August 27, 2015, 05:21:11 AM
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Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 05:38:25 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on August 27, 2015, 07:23:43 AM
Actually bought two trailers, the other a new aluminum 7x14 cargo with 2.5 additional feet in the v nose. Lots of room still, after everything is loaded. Was going to do all this in early July, but logistics didn't work out. I'll document everything afterwards and post pictures in a new thread. Next spring food plots.....and whatever else I can work in. Hope we have enough Coors Light. :chuckle:
Post by: baldopepper on August 27, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 27, 2015, 07:53:06 AM
I only master bait deer :yike:i always knew something was a bit off with you! :chuckle:
Post by: TRD1911 on August 27, 2015, 09:03:59 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 27, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 27, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
In my defense, I was trying a new spot. It was more about seeing what would come in after my other spot became overrun with orange vests. A spot that I had seen absolutely zero other people come into for months until opening day for rifle season. A place where I had seen legal bucks walk through, and even had one spooked off by another orange vest that decided to walk through where I had set up about 2 hours after legal light.
You know why there isn't a deer baiting 201 class? Because it's no more complicated than 101! Open bag poor on ground.
Look at jarhead chase's post. He hasnt had a single buck come into his bait during shooting hours. That is because there is a lot more that goes into baiting than opening some bag of crap and pouring it on the ground. At least if you want to take a mature buck. People dont understand that, and that is why a lot of folks are trying to make it illegal. They think its just pour some corn or apples on the ground, shoot your big buck and game over. Not even close to the reality.
Oh, and for the 4 or 5 days I was actually in my stand, those apples brought in 4-12 deer a day, to about 20 yards. I don't see how mine is a failure story about haphazardly throwing crap on the ground.
Sounds like more of a success over the need to spend $500 on bait to shoot a single white tail. Maybe not caring if the deer I am going for is a wall hanger is the difference.
Post by: Seabass on August 27, 2015, 09:52:27 AM
Baiting mature white tails is HARD! Killing a mature a mature white tail over bait is even HARDER! I have been trying to accomplish it for 15 years with very little success, if success is measured by Boone and Crocket entries. I have 100's of trail camera pictures of GIANT's but only managed to run an arrow through a couple of them.
There is no failed attempt unless you don't learn something from the attempt. My point was simply this.....I think guy's get focused on the wrong issues when it comes to this matter. There are a whole host of factors that go into getting one of these giants into the back of your pickup. Much of which is actually out of our control and sometimes luck plays a bigger role than many of us are willing to admit.
The "act" of baiting is pretty simple and the bait you use isn't the key to the deal at all. I have seen white tail eat all sorts of crap and if you are emphatic on the least important part of the process then you are misguided. Being annoyed by that is my problem. Your problem (if you're one of those guys) is that you don't get it.
The first time I baited deer was 1998. I used wheat because my hunting partner was a wheat farmer and he had lots of it. It worked amazingly! We were more than 100 miles away from any wheat farms. I guarantee those deer were eating wheat for the first time in their lives. I also watched bears eat that same wheat. I could give you 10 other examples like that. I'm certain there is a post on here somewhere that would claim many inaccuracies' in regards to using wheat as bait.
I never saw a big buck eat wheat at my stand and that's why I don't use wheat anymore....NO....my partner was less that 400 yards away from my stand and he put an arrow through a GIANT that season. His success and my lack of it had ZERO to do with the bait.
If you put out bait of damn near any kind, you will attract deer if they live there! 1 out of 100 of those baits will produce a true giant and 1 out of 100 of those guys will actually kill one of those giants.
I have never attempted to bait or hunt black tail or Mule deer and therefore will make no claim to what does and doesn't work in regards to those deer. I wish some other folks would do the same if the intention of a website like this is to actually help one another.
The length of this post is in tribute to DBHAWTHORNE. LOL
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 27, 2015, 10:37:05 AM
My original post was just to be helpful. I have used whole and cut apples, and then I have used apples that I let get a little pungent in the bag before I put them out, with the latter seeming to bring in a lot more interest. This can be done well within my budget, and accomplish my goal.
Best of luck to everyone this year. I know that for me the first can't get here soon enough. Or October 10th, when I still hunt in North Idaho.
Post by: Seabass on August 27, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 27, 2015, 12:35:05 PM
Post by: Miles on August 27, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
This may be a strange question but things already got strange in here so I suppose this isn't so far out there - I have a shortage of apples on my tree this year from it being so dry but I have more tomatoes in the garden than I could ever use. Has anyone used them for bait before?
Not sure about tomatoes, but if you've got any pumpkins they love those.
Post by: Bango skank on August 27, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 27, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
You are correct though, it takes a lot more time, effort, and money than I am currently willing or able to put into it. For what I am doing, I am happy, and will continue to be happy about it until I get the itch to add another set of antlers to the wall and put more effort in.
As I said to Seabass, I hope to see all the work you guys are putting into it pay off, and look forward to seeing some pictures on here in a few days with you guys sitting behind some giants. :brew:
Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on August 27, 2015, 09:01:16 PM
time, effort, and money
:chuckle:
I started innocent enough...a little salt, with a trailcam. Heck, maybe I'll add a few apples next time I check the camera...couple years later Im buying camera batteries and feed by the metric ton...probably should quit my job so I can focus on my $100/day addiction!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 27, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
time, effort, and money
:chuckle:
I started innocent enough...a little salt, with a trailcam. Heck, maybe I'll add a few apples next time I check the camera...couple years later Im buying camera batteries and feed by the metric ton...probably should quit my job so I can focus on my $100/day addiction!
Theres a song about I use to do a little and the little got more and more...... I would consider this a safe addiction. But there probably is a Quack out there that would say different and want you to come to meetings and express yourself about animals and salt and cameras...... :chuckle:
Post by: Jarhead Chase on August 27, 2015, 09:32:00 PM
Meetings are held weekly at Cabela's between the trail cams and the archery equipment. 8)
time, effort, and money
:chuckle:
I started innocent enough...a little salt, with a trailcam. Heck, maybe I'll add a few apples next time I check the camera...couple years later Im buying camera batteries and feed by the metric ton...probably should quit my job so I can focus on my $100/day addiction!
Theres a song about I use to do a little and the little got more and more...... I would consider this a safe addiction. But there probably is a Quack out there that would say different and want you to come to meetings and express yourself about animals and salt and cameras...... :chuckle:
Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 09:36:18 PM
Post by: oldleclercrd on August 27, 2015, 10:37:23 PM
Good thing apples are plentiful around here it's all free and all you can pick if you put the time into picking them
Yep. I picked 75lbs last weekend. Can't beat free.
Post by: Dan-o on August 27, 2015, 10:52:26 PM
Let me clear the air a little. I probably came across as an A-hole....I am actually kind of an A-hole and that's ok with me.
Baiting mature white tails is HARD! Killing a mature a mature white tail over bait is even HARDER! I have been trying to accomplish it for 15 years with very little success, if success is measured by Boone and Crocket entries. I have 100's of trail camera pictures of GIANT's but only managed to run an arrow through a couple of them.
There is no failed attempt unless you don't learn something from the attempt. My point was simply this.....I think guy's get focused on the wrong issues when it comes to this matter. There are a whole host of factors that go into getting one of these giants into the back of your pickup. Much of which is actually out of our control and sometimes luck plays a bigger role than many of us are willing to admit.
The "act" of baiting is pretty simple and the bait you use isn't the key to the deal at all. I have seen white tail eat all sorts of crap and if you are emphatic on the least important part of the process then you are misguided. Being annoyed by that is my problem. Your problem (if you're one of those guys) is that you don't get it.
The first time I baited deer was 1998. I used wheat because my hunting partner was a wheat farmer and he had lots of it. It worked amazingly! We were more than 100 miles away from any wheat farms. I guarantee those deer were eating wheat for the first time in their lives. I also watched bears eat that same wheat. I could give you 10 other examples like that. I'm certain there is a post on here somewhere that would claim many inaccuracies' in regards to using wheat as bait.
I never saw a big buck eat wheat at my stand and that's why I don't use wheat anymore....NO....my partner was less that 400 yards away from my stand and he put an arrow through a GIANT that season. His success and my lack of it had ZERO to do with the bait.
If you put out bait of damn near any kind, you will attract deer if they live there! 1 out of 100 of those baits will produce a true giant and 1 out of 100 of those guys will actually kill one of those giants.
I have never attempted to bait or hunt black tail or Mule deer and therefore will make no claim to what does and doesn't work in regards to those deer. I wish some other folks would do the same if the intention of a website like this is to actually help one another.
The length of this post is in tribute to DBHAWTHORNE. LOL
You should try using fresh bait.
It works for me. I have plenty of mature bucks hit my bait stations during shooting hours....... When I use fresh bait.
Post by: huntnnw on August 27, 2015, 11:14:53 PM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on August 28, 2015, 12:31:10 AM
Post by: Dan-o on August 28, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
Not whitetails !
Maybe not for you........... 8)
If not, you should switch to fresh corn..... assuming you like to see mature bucks in the day time hours. :yike:
Post by: TRD1911 on August 28, 2015, 04:15:46 PM
Luckily a friend of mine brought me to his folks place and let me pick up a few buckets of apples off the ground. These things STINK! If these don't interest them then I'm lost. Theres been a grip of deer eating all around them so I'm a bit baffled.
Doe eating right over the pile
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi168.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu170%2Fjudson_5%2FSTC_0016_zpsz3dw10ky.jpg&hash=9c621323de312d2810392419dbc611fb7214fcdd) (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/judson_5/media/STC_0016_zpsz3dw10ky.jpg.html)
Stinky apples
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 28, 2015, 04:53:08 PM
:chuckle: Shane needs all the help he can get with getting mature buck pictures in the daylight. :tup:Not whitetails !
Maybe not for you........... 8)
If not, you should switch to fresh corn..... assuming you like to see mature bucks in the day time hours. :yike:
Post by: JJ79 on August 29, 2015, 02:08:54 PM
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Post by: jasnt on August 29, 2015, 04:33:35 PM
Well, now I know what I need to do.... Go ask grocery stores for expired produce...careful that can draw bears too
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Post by: Wacenturion on August 31, 2015, 10:51:31 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 31, 2015, 11:23:51 AM
I need help and lots of it :rolleyes::chuckle: