Post by: Rodngun01 on July 28, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
DO FOOD PLOTS WORK HERE?...Have access to some private property by Capital Peak.
DO CALLS, SCENT & RATTLING WORK?....Kind of tone deaf after 21 years in the infantry, couldn't hear the difference between the whitetail grunt call & Blacktail grunt call.
Those are my questions. thanks for taking time to read and respond. Looking forward to scouting/hunting North Pe Ell when I get my packet. Good luck this season.
Post by: chester on July 28, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
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Post by: Rodngun01 on July 28, 2015, 10:04:12 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 29, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
- DO FOOD PLOTS WORK HERE?
- DO CALLS, SCENT & RATTLING WORK?....
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On those days when you just don't want to go outside, go anyways.
I actually have seen a lot of deer around 1:00-3:00 in the afternoon, so hunt all day.
Post by: Rodngun01 on July 29, 2015, 10:46:20 AM
Post by: montana44mag on July 29, 2015, 11:17:58 AM
....Not asking for honey holes,
...Classic :chuckle:
Post by: Rodngun01 on July 29, 2015, 11:57:05 PM
....Not asking for honey holes,
...Classic :chuckle:
There have been plenty of posts on here where people have said that. Then in a round about way asked for them. Sure didn't seem like this guy was doing that.
No Sir.....I wasn't trying to get locations. Learned that lesson during one of my turkey season in Mississippi trying to help someone out. Posted one of my spots and it was like a Sunday church meeting when I got there. So I won't ask and have another hunter experience that....it sucks. Just wanting to see if some of the things I was doing down south for whitetails would work for Blacktails. Looking forward to getting back to doing spot and stalks in the hunting arsenal and watching my son earn his stripes dragging animals up and down hills/mtns like I did for family members. Definitely doing the lot of glassing and covering ground, appreciate the help. Good luck this season.
Post by: fishnfur on July 30, 2015, 12:22:29 AM
I would try almost everything that you did for whitetails down south. Many, many people have success with rattling and grunting, though typically more quietly for BT. I suspect that the BT grunt tube you tried is exactly the same as the WT, with only the name being changed to improve marketing for the niche market - and likely why you didn't hear any difference.
Forget looking for scrapes as BT's, for the most part, are not know to do this. Instead hunt active rublines, since that will be the only way you can come close to patterning a BT bucks movements. Also, instead of considering putting effort into food plots, seek out permission to hunt timbered edges of private agricultural lands. Somebody's already done the food plot work for you.
Mostly, be patient until things heat up around Oct. 25th or so.
Have fun
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 30, 2015, 12:56:16 AM
Post by: Rodngun01 on July 30, 2015, 01:09:35 AM
Welcome to the site and thank you for your service to the country.
I would try almost everything that you did for whitetails down south. Many, many people have success with rattling and grunting, though typically more quietly for BT. I suspect that the BT grunt tube you tried is exactly the same as the WT, with only the name being changed to improve marketing for the niche market - and likely why you didn't hear any difference.
Forget looking for scrapes as BT's, for the most part, are not know to do this. Instead hunt active rublines, since that will be the only way you can come close to patterning a BT bucks movements. Also, instead of considering putting effort into food plots, seek out permission to hunt timbered edges of private agricultural lands. Somebody's already done the food plot work for you.
Mostly, be patient until things heat up around Oct. 25th or so.
Have fun
Thanks, definitely will be looking for that.
Post by: Rodngun01 on July 30, 2015, 01:12:47 AM
Late rifle last year, i sat on a big scrape area. I scraped a couple trees with a stick, put some active scrape scent on them, backed off about 40 yards and did about a 30 second routine i talked about with a friend, rattling and making noise with my feet on the ground, as well as grunting. No sooner did i finish than i heard a buck literally running in snorting, he sounded mad. He got within about 30 or 40 yards of the "clearing" i was sitting on and stopped. I could hear him snorting, then he started moving to flank me, down wind. He ended up spooking after getting down wind of me, and i only briefly saw him. So calling can work but you have to have the right set up. I didn't have it and never got a shot on him. I think he was a 3 point.
Yes Sir, I did a similar routine for whitetails down south. Good to know, appreciate it.
Post by: rasbo on July 30, 2015, 04:18:18 AM
Post by: fishnfur on July 30, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Just to clarify, BTs do rub trees, especially Alder if they are available. They do not make scrapes on the ground and use licking branches like WTs. (there are reports by some hunters of seeing ground scrapes created by blacktails, but it is generally considered to be a behavior of WTs not BTs.)
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 31, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
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I've taken several bucks doing it...it can be hit and miss....took me a few years to figure it out...just don't give up with it...the closer to the end of Oct the better....what style of hunting do you like? I mainly glass cuts and am very successfull at it....the key to this method is PATIENCE...don't be in a hurry to leave a cut...deer will bedown in them and be hidden...hunt the cuts that are at least 4 yrs old and have enough growth for the deer to feel secure enough to bed in them...I like to glass cuts that have no road access into them with doghair/timber around them....I find a spot and stay there all day long....the big bucks will feed at night and into the first half hour or so into daylight then bed down and get back up between 11-1...that's the witching our for me...I've killed all my big bucks between 11-1 so do not go back in town for lunch ....if you like to walk I would hit big timber or reprod and still hunt...walk slow...stop and glass every 5-10 yds...you never know when your going to walk up to that buck of a lifetime...and remember don't look for the whole deer...look for an eye, ear, tail flicker, leg, back line, something that just doesn't belong there. Good luck with your adventure :tup:
Post by: Rodngun01 on August 01, 2015, 07:47:20 PM
Rattling does work
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I've taken several bucks doing it...it can be hit and miss....took me a few years to figure it out...just don't give up with it...the closer to the end of Oct the better....what style of hunting do you like? I mainly glass cuts and am very successfull at it....the key to this method is PATIENCE...don't be in a hurry to leave a cut...deer will bedown in them and be hidden...hunt the cuts that are at least 4 yrs old and have enough growth for the deer to feel secure enough to bed in them...I like to glass cuts that have no road access into them with doghair/timber around them....I find a spot and stay there all day long....the big bucks will feed at night and into the first half hour or so into daylight then bed down and get back up between 11-1...that's the witching our for me...I've killed all my big bucks between 11-1 so do not go back in town for lunch ....if you like to walk I would hit big timber or reprod and still hunt...walk slow...stop and glass every 5-10 yds...you never know when your going to walk up to that buck of a lifetime...and remember don't look for the whole deer...look for an eye, ear, tail flicker, leg, back line, something that just doesn't belong there. Good luck with your adventure :tup:
I like Bow, Muzzle Loader and Modern Firearms.....But if had to choose just one it would be Bow Hunting. Had a blast bow hunting Turkey's down in Mississippi and Hogs in Georgia. I'm doing modern firearms this year till I learn the area (s). Probably put in for the multi-season permit from here on out, Hopefully I'll get drawn every now and then. Thanks for the tips, good luck this season.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 01, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on August 03, 2015, 07:58:47 PM
Post by: Rodngun01 on August 03, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Maybe I missed it, but what tag/season do you intend to hunt? That would dictate how and where I would hunt for Blacktails.
This year I'm hunting modern firearm while I'm learning the different areas. Next year I will bow hunt for at least deer, maybe elk too. Sticking to firearm for bear though.
Post by: Rodngun01 on August 03, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
If your going to hunt rifle start looking for the does now...find an area with a lot of does and concentrate on that for the bucks come Oct...they will come to them...the area I hunt I see a few bucks throughout the summer but not many...i know they are there or will be come season...so don't be discouraged by not seeing bucks right now
Rodger....Headed out this week since the near permit year has started. Thanks.