Post by: nastybynature on July 30, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
I am going out for the 1st time this year and taking my 9 year old son with me. I want to teach him to hunt but know very little of the actual appropriate etiquette other than the things i have picked up here and what seems to be most importantly overlooked everywhere in life, common sense. I have done a search on the word etiquette and found some good info in there although nothing really in depth or recent.
So I can ask the question, "Is it first come, first serve with a favorite spot?" and go into alot of detail about what if the guy argues he has scouted this area all year and what if he doesn't leave and let you have the area but I think a better idea is to just have you veteran hunters give us some of your tips and pet peeves to get a dialogue going. I can always ask specific questions later.
So I would start but have Zero experience hunting other than scouting and bird hunting (probably illegal in hindsight) in Illinois with my pellet gun when I was 10 which is way different.
Anyone want to go on the subject of claimed hunting spot in public land? Anything else?
Post by: vandeman17 on July 30, 2015, 03:13:12 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on July 30, 2015, 03:19:07 PM
Post by: sticky on July 30, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 30, 2015, 03:36:58 PM
It baffles me when some dude comes bopping into the spot you're hunting around 8:45 am and is shocked to see me there. Usually if the late-riser actually decides to leave, he makes enough noise to scare every animal Ina five mile radius.
Duck hunting is the worst. I can't count how many times I will have been at my spot, hung out, set out decoys and are waiting for legal shooting time only to see or hear people showing up 5 minutes before LST and into LST. :bash: :bash:
Post by: go4itlab on July 30, 2015, 04:27:23 PM
Post by: Stein on July 30, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
99% of the time guys are very good to deal with and we either move on or ask to share. If they are db type guys, I would rather go somewhere else than deal with them. Yes, first there is legal but I'm out to have a good time and I would rather move on and find an even better spot than get in a big bru-ha-ha with an a-hole - especially with kids in tow.
Post by: LeviD1 on July 30, 2015, 04:36:16 PM
Post by: Stein on July 30, 2015, 04:43:12 PM
Final one is watch the easy ticket items - hunter's orange, unload the gun before it gets close to the truck, get off the road, watch the clock, make sure you know where you are, etc.
Post by: nastybynature on July 30, 2015, 07:36:43 PM
Post by: brewzer13 on July 30, 2015, 08:22:03 PM
If you get to the trail/gate/road at the same time others do, ask what there plan is or tell them what your plan is and see if you both can work it out. You might end up with a new friend or get some advise on others places in that area. :twocents:
Post by: steelnducks on July 30, 2015, 08:37:18 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on July 30, 2015, 08:51:05 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 31, 2015, 06:23:06 AM
Post by: Westside88 on July 31, 2015, 06:52:53 AM
Post by: birddogdad on July 31, 2015, 07:28:51 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 31, 2015, 07:36:44 AM
I agree with what's been said about duck season and people coming out at 845 looking to muscle into a spot - it's really annoying and in some cases, dangerous. Have the phone number of the local gamie in your device.
Always carry out more than you bring in. It will also be a great thing to teach your son.
Post by: rtspring on July 31, 2015, 07:51:22 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on July 31, 2015, 08:17:19 AM
I generally give people a wide berth and when I accidentally get near someone or end up at the trail head right behind them I simply ask where they are going and let them know I will try to steer clear. I have more luck with other people bumping animals toward me than fighting over a "hot spot."
99% of the time guys are very good to deal with and we either move on or ask to share. If they are db type guys, I would rather go somewhere else than deal with them. Yes, first there is legal but I'm out to have a good time and I would rather move on and find an even better spot than get in a big bru-ha-ha with an a-hole - especially with kids in tow.
Exactly! :tup:
Post by: BNAElkhntr on July 31, 2015, 08:38:49 AM
I'm with Bean Counter, I will not be bullied off public land. I am polite and respectfull if your parked there 1st. I'll move on and hunt somewhere else, I won't even circle or set up above,bellow. right or left. Never place your eggs in one basket! I had a guy last week up in Oak Creek/Bethel come running up on me as I was getting ready to go behind one of the only locked gates in there and precide to ask me, what the hell I thought I was dong there and go on to tell me he's baited there as well as 4 to 5 other spots all along that system. Corking off a large portion of good hunting area and telling me he'll be all over those piles during the season. Then asked me what I was going to do? I looked at him and said I'm lacing up my boots and I'm going to see what behind the locked gate. He's lucky it wasn't throat punch Thursday.Good Job what road?
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 31, 2015, 08:47:06 AM
I'm with Bean Counter, I will not be bullied off public land. I am polite and respectfull if your parked there 1st. I'll move on and hunt somewhere else, I won't even circle or set up above,bellow. right or left. Never place your eggs in one basket! I had a guy last week up in Oak Creek/Bethel come running up on me as I was getting ready to go behind one of the only locked gates in there and precide to ask me, what the hell I thought I was dong there and go on to tell me he's baited there as well as 4 to 5 other spots all along that system. Corking off a large portion of good hunting area and telling me he'll be all over those piles during the season. Then asked me what I was going to do? I looked at him and said I'm lacing up my boots and I'm going to see what behind the locked gate. He's lucky it wasn't throat punch Thursday.
That guy is an idiot in the first place...baiting in Oak Crk? Sounds like a huge waste of time and money to bait there. When somebody asks me, "what the hell do you think you're doing here?" it might be throat punch time anyway.
These people really need to watch who they screw with. All it takes is a tire core remover or some paint strip to get the last laugh...I'm just saying
:peep:
Post by: nastybynature on July 31, 2015, 09:12:03 AM
Curious though as it almost is spoken like common knowledge.... Why would Oak Creek/Bethel Ridge be a waste of time and $$ to bait? Lack of wildlife? Abundance of wildlife?
Keep it coming folks! :tup:
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 31, 2015, 09:15:29 AM
All good info! Thanks everyone! :tup: 8)
Curious though as it almost is spoken like common knowledge.... Why would Oak Creek/Bethel Ridge be a waste of time and $$ to bait? Lack of wildlife? Abundance of wildlife?
Keep it coming folks! :tup:
Because Oak Creek and Bethel Ridge are war zones in hunting season. Baiting is only effective with creatures that are not disturbed and have uninterrupted patterns.
Think of it like trying to meet people at a bar if the KGB were patrolling the streets and firing off sound shots. Most folks would be in hiding like the deer and elk at Oak Crk come season.
Post by: nastybynature on July 31, 2015, 09:21:48 AM
All good info! Thanks everyone! :tup: 8)
Curious though as it almost is spoken like common knowledge.... Why would Oak Creek/Bethel Ridge be a waste of time and $$ to bait? Lack of wildlife? Abundance of wildlife?
Keep it coming folks! :tup:
Because Oak Creek and Bethel Ridge are war zones in hunting season. Baiting is only effective with creatures that are not disturbed and have uninterrupted patterns.
Think of it like trying to meet people at a bar if the KGB were patrolling the streets and firing off sound shots. Most folks would be in hiding like the deer and elk at Oak Crk come season.
That totally makes sense. Not familiar with that area. I am guessing up by St. Helens will be the same way.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 31, 2015, 09:31:48 AM
It just takes some doing to find a spot that is productive and less pressured. Don't let it sour you on hunting, it just has a learning curve like anything else.
Post by: nastybynature on July 31, 2015, 11:01:37 AM
That's kind of a vague area...you mean the Margaret unit? It's fair to say that anywhere that holds decent elk numbers and is easily accessed during modern firearm elk season will be covered in hunters.
It just takes some doing to find a spot that is productive and less pressured. Don't let it sour you on hunting, it just has a learning curve like anything else.
Was speaking more of 560GMU but I am expecting lots of pressure. I have no problem hiking in farther than most other though.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 31, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
Post by: sticky on July 31, 2015, 01:27:56 PM
It took everything in me to not tell him that the gym roof had never collapsed and what a lying sack of excrement he was but I didn't.
They did have guns after all.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 04, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
I've lived and hunted in the Mossyrock and Winston units since I was a little kid and I don't have any problem with licensed hunters coming here to hunt. Strangely, one common line I've heard from several hunters is the "I've lived here all my life and I have permission to hunt here, do you?" Of course, they are full of dung and only trying to trick me into leaving. So I ask them a few questions that any person that had lived here would be able to answer. I asked one bozo that had at least a six pack in him if he remembered when the roof to the high school gym caved in. He said, "Yeah, as a matter of fact, my brother and I worked on the crew that rebuilt that roof."
It took everything in me to tell that the gym roof had never collapsed and what a lying sack of excrement he was but I didn't.
They did have guns after all.
I went to the Winston Zoo a couple years ago around Thanksgiving and the hardest thing was finding a place to park where the rig was concealed. Never met anyone threatening but a lot of drunks in 4WDs.
In a two day hunt I got into elk multiple times and almost had a shot opportunity. Met a few loudmouths at the gas station but I'm not worried about running into them in the field because they are busy wearing out the seat covers in their 3/4 ton.
The only thing I worry about is hiding my rig :twocents:
Post by: sticky on August 04, 2015, 02:19:37 PM