Post by: Bean Counter on August 03, 2015, 02:09:33 PM
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Delta Air Lines announced Wednesday that it has banned shipment of exotic animal trophies as freight.
“Effective immediately, Delta will officially ban shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight,” Delta said in a statement. “Prior to this ban, Delta’s strict acceptance policy called for absolute compliance with all government regulations regarding protected species.”
Delta, the only U.S. carrier that serves South Africa directly, had been accepting hunting trophies if customers provided appropriate documentation to U.S. customs officials and if the animal in question was not a protected species. The move comes amid an outcry over the killing of the well-known lion Cecil by American hunter Walter Palmer, after the lion was lured out of a Zimbabwe wildlife reserve.
A Change.org petition launched by Chris Green, a Delta Diamond Medallion flier, received over 390,000 signatures and called for the airline to institute a ban. Lufthansa and Emirates Airline already have similar policies in place and after news of Cecil’s death, South African Airways also announced a policy refusing to transport exotic animal hunting trophies...
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 03, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on August 03, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
Post by: TheHunt on August 03, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
Post by: Johnb317 on August 03, 2015, 05:46:27 PM
Hate it when companies jump on the stupid wagon.
This whole thing seems well orchestrated, I don't usually buy into conspiracy theories but.
Post by: KFhunter on August 03, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
Cecil was 13 years old, that's old for a lion.
Most online sources say 3-8 yrs old average for a pride male on up to 14 for a very successful lion.
Cecil was on his way out, and if he was that far out from his pride hitting a bait station he was probably run off already by a younger male.
Post by: BNAElkhntr on August 03, 2015, 06:22:31 PM
Post by: csaaphill on August 03, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
:bash: :bash:
Post by: KFhunter on August 03, 2015, 07:15:17 PM
Post by: csaaphill on August 03, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Meat doesn't normally leave Africa, it's given to the locals.that answers if he's in africa but is delta banning all transports of that nature even ones like I listed and asked?
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2015, 07:01:16 AM
I would suggest a tone which reflects respect for their concern for wildlife and direct that concern to how effective wildlife management works, with hunter dollars, to support and build wildlife populations for the enjoyment of all.
Post by: Bob33 on August 04, 2015, 07:24:37 AM
This is an unfortunate reminder of how the acts of one can affect many, justifiable or not.
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
While I am not in agreement with Delta, I do not believe this will have a significant effect on hunting in Africa. Most visitors do not hunt the species that are now banned for transport on Delta. Secondly, the trophies can still be shipped by sea which is often cheaper anyway.
This is an unfortunate reminder of how the acts of one can affect many, justifiable or not.
The statement by the world's largest airline gives credibility to the false notion that legal hunting hurts wildlife. If this continues and the world remains ignorant of the facts, wildlife in Africa could be seriously affected. Were they to change their stance with an about-face, light may be shone on the good that legal trophy hunting accomplishes.
Post by: Carl on August 04, 2015, 07:51:14 AM
Post by: rtspring on August 04, 2015, 07:52:19 AM
Post by: haugenna on August 04, 2015, 07:56:57 AM
Post by: birddogdad on August 04, 2015, 08:01:57 AM
Post by: Mauser on August 04, 2015, 08:30:22 AM
The bigger issue here is this is just one more victory for the anti-hunting groups. They get the media attention that projects them as having the higher moral ground. Lasting change is always a series of small steps. Call it one more nail in the coffin if you like. These people will now feel empowered to protest for the next item on their agenda. This also plays directly into the anti-gun groups argument that people don't have a legitimate use for guns if you ban hunting.
Until hunters/gun owners are willing to stand together on these issues they will continue to lose the fight. I have noticed that even on this forum a large number of posters were willing to call the dentist out without having any information other than what the media gave them after reporting on the protestors demands.
Post by: Bofire on August 04, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
I also saw 5 animals listed they would not ship, I think the Big 5. Leopard, Buffalo, Lion, Rhino(legal anywhere???) and sumthin I forgot.
Carl
here yall go http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33767771
Post by: fireweed on August 04, 2015, 09:31:48 AM
Post by: HuntnFishnFun on August 04, 2015, 10:11:35 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on August 04, 2015, 11:03:47 PM
Post by: haugenna on August 05, 2015, 06:28:05 AM
Most of you are missing the point, this is just a start. They will start with these animals then go from there. I fly over 100,000 miles a year and a lot on Delta, that just ended Monday for me and any body that has our gun and hunting rights in mind need to get there Sh-t together and tell them to stuff it by not flying Delta or American!!!
I don't think we are missing the point. It's not going to stop with animals, guns will be next
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 05, 2015, 12:06:55 PM
"Dear Mr. Pianoman,
RE: Case Number 16928932
Thank you for your email to Delta Air Lines sharing your disappointment
with the hunting trophies.
Delta has banned the shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros
and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight. Prior to this ban, Delta's
strict acceptance policy called for absolute compliance with all
government regulations regarding protected species. Delta will also
review the acceptance policies for other hunting trophies with the
appropriate government agencies and other organizations that support
legal shipments.
We value customer feedback and appreciate you taking the time to contact
us. We understand your feelings surrounding this issue, and we are
grateful you took the time to let us know how our actions have been
perceived. Your concerns have been reported to the appropriate
leadership for internal review.
We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always welcome the
opportunity to be of service.
Sincerely,
Blossom Smith
Online Customer Support Desk
http://www.delta.com"
Post by: Bob33 on August 05, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Thanks for writing them.
Post by: Bob33 on August 05, 2015, 12:39:31 PM
Did American Airlines follow suit?American does not fly directly to/from South Africa.
But yes, they did.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2015/08/03/american-airlines-animal-trophy-ban/31090331/
Post by: Bean Counter on August 05, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
Then I copied the text and sent it to American, as well, Bob.
http://www.aa.com/contactAA/viewEmailFormAccess.do?eventName=customerRelations