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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on August 05, 2015, 07:13:26 AM
I have not dealt with "target panic" in the usual sense of the word. But had definitley hit some shooting plateaus and was looking for some "next level" advice. I was breaking down my form and practicing what I believed was perfect and was not gaining any more ground. The information Joel presented was helpful and most importantly to me, made sense.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 05, 2015, 07:38:53 AM
Post by: RadSav on August 05, 2015, 08:09:40 AM
Large targets/close range, single pin, proper draw length, change release, allow the pin to float on the target - just a few of the initial things to try as you see if you can work through it rapidly. Since we are getting close to hunting season cardboard animal cutouts with no dot or bulls eye is a good place to start.
Post by: quadrafire on August 05, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
Post by: wa_archer on August 05, 2015, 08:33:19 AM
Link to the Levi Morgan piece.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/2015/07/bow-method-breakthrough
Little more on accuracy.
Post by: JamesK. on August 05, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
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Post by: RadSav on August 05, 2015, 09:18:56 AM
I developed a horrible case of this Target Panic and it took me atleast a year to cure myself of it.
30 years and I am still not cured. Once an addict always an addict >:( I now manage it most days. Thanks to great coaches. But won't be winning 3-D shoots...even with a good pencil and eraser!
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2015, 09:19:57 AM
I guess someone else suggested it too.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 05, 2015, 09:22:04 AM
won't be winning 3-D shoots...even with a good pencil and eraser!
Have we played darts and I didn't know it?
:peep:
Seems like whenever I get punchy... I shoot at 10 yards or closer and then way back to 70+ and it helps me for a long time :tup:
Post by: coachcw on August 05, 2015, 09:23:11 AM
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Post by: RadSav on August 05, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
Really sucks to be getting bit just before hunting season. The few times I got it badly just before season I found it best to just quit shooting all together during hunting season. I don't even shoot at small game or stumps those years - only big game! The time off seems to help. Then after early season I can give it 100% of my attention and get the upper hand.
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2015, 12:16:10 PM
Post by: WALLEYEGUY on August 05, 2015, 12:45:55 PM
Post by: RadSav on August 05, 2015, 02:56:52 PM
Interesting. You've shot trad. Have you ever had it with that?
Never had it with traditional bows. I don't anchor long enough for my mind to panic about nothin :o
My trad style is a lot like Fred Bear. Not really snap shooting as I do anchor, but I do get blamed for doing it by those who aren't paying attention. Most of my trad kills were during my worst target panic years. I just ditched the training wheels once hunting season got close. Though I've never had bad target panic shooting animals. Maybe if I shot animals with spots on them :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 06, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
everyone can win with the right pencil.I developed a horrible case of this Target Panic and it took me atleast a year to cure myself of it.
30 years and I am still not cured. Once and addict always an addict >:( I now manage it most days. Thanks to great coaches. But won't be winning 3-D shoots...even with a good pencil and eraser!
Post by: coachcw on August 06, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Maybe you have to concentrate more to pull it back and it keeps you mind from wandering. :dunno: :chuckle:Squirrel ! :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on August 06, 2015, 09:26:32 AM
everyone can win with the right pencil.I developed a horrible case of this Target Panic and it took me atleast a year to cure myself of it.
30 years and I am still not cured. Once and addict always an addict >:( I now manage it most days. Thanks to great coaches. But won't be winning 3-D shoots...even with a good pencil and eraser!
You should have been around, trying to win 3-D shoots, in the mid to late 80's. Last guy to turn in his score card always won :o
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 06, 2015, 09:36:05 AM
everyone can win with the right pencil.I developed a horrible case of this Target Panic and it took me atleast a year to cure myself of it.
30 years and I am still not cured. Once and addict always an addict >:( I now manage it most days. Thanks to great coaches. But won't be winning 3-D shoots...even with a good pencil and eraser!
You should have been around, trying to win 3-D shoots, in the mid to late 80's. Last guy to turn in his score card always won :o
That is hilarious. :chuckle:
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on August 06, 2015, 09:55:31 AM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 06, 2015, 01:09:03 PM
For me it seems that target panic never truly goes away once it sets in. It can just be controlled to various degrees.
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 06, 2015, 01:13:42 PM
"Blind Bale" work with no aiming point, just focus on the draw,anchor and release. Do several sessions without even aiming. Do this at just a few feet or just a little more than an arrows distance from the bale. Get close enough that you can shoot with your eyes closed as well and hold your draw before release.:yeah: 20-25 arrows everyday. It cured mine in about a week several years ago.
Post by: steeliedrew on August 07, 2015, 10:33:33 AM
I'll be doing some blind bale shooting this weekend.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 07, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
I think it is that my brain thinks it "needs" to see the entire dot and doesn't like when something like a pin is blocking it.
Good point, last year I finally figured out why I was grouping low past 40 and this was why :chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on August 07, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Post by: RadSav on August 07, 2015, 01:52:03 PM
Yep. I listened to a Gritty Bowmen podcast the other week and the guest was the owner of XXX Archery. He discussed his battle with target panic and he had said that you have to be able to tell yourself that you're "ok" with the pin being on the dot or hovering around the dot.
Corey was right about that! Unfortunately that idiot I talk to when discussing things with myself doesn't listen very well :chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on August 07, 2015, 05:57:06 PM
Yep. I listened to a Gritty Bowmen podcast the other week and the guest was the owner of XXX Archery. He discussed his battle with target panic and he had said that you have to be able to tell yourself that you're "ok" with the pin being on the dot or hovering around the dot.
Corey was right about that! Unfortunately that idiot I talk to when discussing things with myself doesn't listen for very well :chuckle:
I hear ya RadSav! haha
Post by: tbrady on August 13, 2015, 11:35:58 AM
Post by: RadSav on August 13, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
Dang, I've learned a lot reading this thread. All these years I thought target panic was that terrible feeling an animal got when it heard the loud TWAAAANG from Hoyt/Matthews bows (Bowtech doesn't suffer from this).
Yep, those Bowtechs are so quiet and put the arrows through them so fast they don't feel a thing! :tup:
Post by: BIGDOG253 on August 13, 2015, 12:38:33 PM
Dang, I've learned a lot reading this thread. All these years I thought target panic was that terrible feeling an animal got when it heard the loud TWAAAANG from Hoyt/Matthews bows (Bowtech doesn't suffer from this).You must be shooting some older bows. No TWANG from the Mathews HTR. Its the quietest/smoothest bow Ive ever shot. But it is a much slower than the Bowtech's.
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