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Post by: freberd on May 11, 2016, 06:39:58 AM
he had 3 people back out due to financial reasons
There are ready to go
Blue skies Chesapeakes
http://blueskieschesapeakes.com/
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 11, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
Clayton in Eastern Wa had 3 a couple weeks ago Males
he had 3 people back out due to financial reasons
There are ready to go
Blue skies Chesapeakes
http://blueskieschesapeakes.com/
If you have any plans to mix breeding chesapeakes and labs Clayton will not sell you a dog. I promise.
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Post by: bowtechian on May 14, 2016, 08:48:24 AM
What is the percieved benifit of a mix of these2?Best of both worlds(sammy pun) not as aggressive as the chessie still a bit stubborn but the drive is one of the best I've seen & my preference
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 16, 2016, 10:10:06 AM
What is the percieved benifit of a mix of these2?Best of both worlds(sammy pun) not as aggressive as the chessie still a bit stubborn but the drive is one of the best I've seen & my preference
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if you think it is because you half bred and you got "the best of both"... that's crazy.
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 16, 2016, 11:14:01 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 16, 2016, 12:17:46 PM
Just never subscribe to the thought that mixing two dogs which have been bred for hundreds of years to get specific traits will benefit from your experiment is absurd. You will not get "the best of both worlds" in one generation breeding. If you understood genetics, bred about 6-10 generations you might be able to document a trait in your line of breedings.
By mixing two pure bred dogs, you've essentially ruined what could potentially been generations of thoughtful breeding and hard work by actual breeders who responsibly follow all possible precautions to make healthy dogs.
Actually thinking you are outsmarting everything that people bred into a line for a couple hundred years is actually just really arrogant. Doing multiple generations of breedings just trying to improve something small is barely doable . That is the realistic approach.
Post by: whitey on May 16, 2016, 01:11:48 PM
I do know one thing, they arent mean, but they are protective over your(Their) truck and property. They are second to none. Very good dogs.
But I went to labs. Either way you look at it you cant go wrong.
Post by: bowtechian on May 16, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
I don't have any issue with mixed breed dogs at all. If you get a dog and train him to do anything it's awesome!You ASSume way too much I already have a Chesapeake/lab & was just trying to find another one & he is the best of both worlds! Sent him to Western wings who was highly impressed by his performance, drive & intelligence & said if he had papers that he would personally run him in field trails. My goal is to find another hunting mut like the one I have, that's all
Just never subscribe to the thought that mixing two dogs which have been bred for hundreds of years to get specific traits will benefit from your experiment is absurd. You will not get "the best of both worlds" in one generation breeding. If you understood genetics, bred about 6-10 generations you might be able to document a trait in your line of breedings.
By mixing two pure bred dogs, you've essentially ruined what could potentially been generations of thoughtful breeding and hard work by actual breeders who responsibly follow all possible precautions to make healthy dogs.
Actually thinking you are outsmarting everything that people bred into a line for a couple hundred years is actually just really arrogant. Doing multiple generations of breedings just trying to improve something small is barely doable . That is the realistic approach.
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Post by: jeepinhans on May 16, 2016, 02:11:35 PM
Post by: bowtechian on May 16, 2016, 02:32:00 PM
Just saw an add on Craigslist for some of this mix in Stanwood.Sweet! Thank you
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Post by: CoryTDF on May 16, 2016, 03:00:56 PM
I don't have any issue with mixed breed dogs at all. If you get a dog and train him to do anything it's awesome!You ASSume way too much I already have a Chesapeake/lab & was just trying to find another one & he is the best of both worlds! Sent him to Western wings who was highly impressed by his performance, drive & intelligence & said if he had papers that he would personally run him in field trails. My goal is to find another hunting mut like the one I have, that's all
Just never subscribe to the thought that mixing two dogs which have been bred for hundreds of years to get specific traits will benefit from your experiment is absurd. You will not get "the best of both worlds" in one generation breeding. If you understood genetics, bred about 6-10 generations you might be able to document a trait in your line of breedings.
By mixing two pure bred dogs, you've essentially ruined what could potentially been generations of thoughtful breeding and hard work by actual breeders who responsibly follow all possible precautions to make healthy dogs.
Actually thinking you are outsmarting everything that people bred into a line for a couple hundred years is actually just really arrogant. Doing multiple generations of breedings just trying to improve something small is barely doable . That is the realistic approach.
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Just make sure that BOTH dogs have all the proper medical clearances. I'm not really a fan of any breeding that is done with undocumented dogs. This is a how genetic disorders are passed on. I agree %1000 with what HAPPY is saying about changing a breed even if that is not what your intentions were/are.
Another huge misconception is that you can take a pup and put it with a trained dog and it will pick up the same trained behavior. That is not how this works. Dogs are not people and they cannot effectively learn this way. The only way to truly train a dog is though repetition. Yes, there are instinctual traits and behaviors that you can build on, but having your dog watch an older do run multiple Marks or do a complicated Blind Retrieve will not "Teach" the dog how to do this. I'm sure you already understand this but on the off chance that you may have some confusion about that I wanted to add my :twocents:. Happy is active in the training world as am I and I feel confident speaking for the both of us when I say that there is no substituted for responsible breeding and proper training.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do. It seems like you have used a trainer in the past and have some knowledge about the subject.
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Post by: CoryTDF on May 17, 2016, 02:38:14 PM
if it was an accidental breeding and you give it a great hunting home or a home in general that is awesome. Intentionally doing a breeding I'd have other words...
Yup.
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Post by: CoryTDF on May 27, 2016, 08:12:47 AM
I'm sure it's already been covered but there is a lot more that goes into breeding than finding a male and female. I have nothing against people training/hunting/breeding dogs that are not purebred but regardless there's precautions that have to be taken. Make sure all pedigrees are available so you're not inbreeding. Hips, elbows, eyes, EIC, CNM, are some of the genetic tests that would be good to put both dogs through.
Carful. Threads get locked around here when you start talking about responsible breeding practices.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 28, 2016, 09:45:51 PM