Post by: shorthair15 on August 09, 2015, 10:23:17 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on August 09, 2015, 10:28:30 AM
Post by: Bob33 on August 09, 2015, 10:31:02 AM
Post by: shorthair15 on August 09, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on August 09, 2015, 10:42:30 AM
For an all purpose back up gun, '06 is tough to beat.
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on August 09, 2015, 11:20:02 AM
Post by: Bob33 on August 09, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
Post by: Machias on August 09, 2015, 01:35:41 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on August 09, 2015, 01:38:16 PM
Post by: Elkterd on August 09, 2015, 01:39:58 PM
Post by: Rich_S on August 09, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
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Pretty much the same case as a .30-30, but with almost straight walls instead of being necked down. My load is a 220 grain bullet with RL-7. IIRC, runs about 2200 fps. I've never shot anything but paper and steel with it, but it is reputed to be a great woods and/or large animal cartridge. I used to always bring it along when elk hunting for those rainy days in the deep woods down near HQ road south of Castle Rock.
Post by: Machias on August 09, 2015, 01:46:21 PM
Whatever age he is, they don't stay small long.
Good reason for more than one gun. Too many folks start kids out with a caliber way to powerful for a small shooter and help kids develop poor shooting skills. Much better to start off with the proper caliber and step it up as they grow.
Post by: bobcat on August 09, 2015, 02:08:44 PM
Post by: Utah on August 09, 2015, 02:09:57 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 09, 2015, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: barracuda163 on August 09, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
From another bear thread, this was the caliber of choice in a poll I was taking.
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Pretty much the same case as a .30-30, but with almost straight walls instead of being necked down. My load is a 220 grain bullet with RL-7. IIRC, runs about 2200 fps. I've never shot anything but paper and steel with it, but it is reputed to be a great woods and/or large animal cartridge. I used to always bring it along when elk hunting for those rainy days in the deep woods down near HQ road south of Castle Rock.
Great cartridge! I would not hesitate to carry this in Alaska.
Post by: jdb on August 09, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on August 10, 2015, 01:54:55 PM
The 7mm's have great stopping power on game, I have seen my 7mag at 180 yards with a 175 gr. rem core lockt blow a standing Roosevelt elk over on its side lift up its head and expire. I also shot a 350 lb black bear clean through under the front left and exited right in front of the right hip going through 4 feet of bear with a 150 gr partition the bear went about 40 yards dead on its feet. The longest shot I took on a bear was ranged at 674 with federal fusions 150 gr. the bear took off into an alder bottom started yowling in the trees and expired about 70 yards away. Bullet mushroomed and was against a rib on the other side from a uphill shot.
But for your rifle selection it depends on what type of country you like to hunt bear in. 7mm-08 is a great gun for shorter applications I have also watched an instant death from one at about 50 yards on a cow elk over in Montana. I normally carry a longer ranged rifle because most of the people I like to hunt with don't like to shoot past 400 and you miss a lot of opportunities if you can't reach out a little farther. You could easily get comfortable shooting out to 400, maybe a little past there on game with a good bullet with a 7mm-08 and a turret.
I'm partial to 7's and I have more of them than any other guns, but that is what I have hunted with for the last 5 years. (before that all archery) Is the 30-06, .308 a good option? - Absolutely- My dad shoots a .30-06 and loves it, is it better than my 7mm rem mag that I have grown to love? Don't know never watched something walk away after it got shot by either gun. But the .30-06 can take some heavier loads if your doing some brush hunting this is a little bit of a bonus.
Also for bear and elk, don't look past the .270 my cousin got a Rosie last year at 800 yards with a single well placed shot shooting a 139 grin barnes something or other (its a blue bullet?). The shot broke through a rib, and went about 1/2 of the way through the vital cavity. Yes the bull walked 100 yards and the bullet didn't exit but if thats the gun your comfortable shooting its the right choice for you. Contrary to popular belief bears and elk are not armor toting animals impervious to bullets. You also don't need a pass through to kill, poke a hole in a lung and its game over.
Also as a last note, my preference is to stay away from stuff like the .375 Win or the 30-30. Sure you see animals in that range and its a great gun at short ranges but what if you decide to do a Montana Elk hunt or get drawn for sheep or moose, or see that giant bear at 500 yards about to go into thick timber? If you are hunting the same rifle for years and are comfortable with it your going to make that shot when it counts, I feel that lever guns although very cool are extremely limited in what applications they are good at. :sry: :twocents:
Post by: Rich_S on August 10, 2015, 03:49:04 PM
I really like 7mm's I have a couple 7mm rem mags and a couple 7mm-08's. (snip) . . . If you are hunting the same rifle for years and are comfortable with it your going to make that shot when it counts, I feel that lever guns although very cool are extremely limited in what applications they are good at. :sry: :twocents:
And yet . . . you can have both!
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139 gr. 7mm @ 3100 fps. - Model 88 in .284 Winchester.
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on August 10, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
Post by: Bofire on August 10, 2015, 04:26:32 PM
Carl
Post by: Rich_S on August 10, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
Well played Rich. I'll have to add that to the list of stuff to get in my safe. :bash:
I'll be happy to bring it up so's you can take some pictures to see how it looks in your safe (not for sale though). If we can go fishing for Kings later. :) Caught my first salmon near there - a 35 lb. King on mooching gear. What a thrill!
Post by: rasbo on August 11, 2015, 04:03:53 AM
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Post by: Machias on August 13, 2015, 08:43:52 AM
I really like 7mm's I have a couple 7mm rem mags and a couple 7mm-08's. (snip) . . . If you are hunting the same rifle for years and are comfortable with it your going to make that shot when it counts, I feel that lever guns although very cool are extremely limited in what applications they are good at. :sry: :twocents:
And yet . . . you can have both!
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139 gr. 7mm @ 3100 fps. - Model 88 in .284 Winchester.
Instant flash back and memories. My first rifle at 15 was a Win Model 88, .308. My Dad got it while stationed in Turkey for wild boar hunting. Lost it in a house fire many years ago. LOVED that rifle!!!!
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 13, 2015, 09:08:01 AM
.270 WSM would be awesome for a youth!! Coyotes to Moose covered, short action and ohhhhhhh the FLAT shooting. Would of loved one as a kid. Cant go wrong with a good Remington 308 either.
Yeah it's a great cartridge but I would never buy a kid a WSM...too much bite and flinching is tough to recover from.
Post by: gilroym on August 18, 2015, 10:11:36 AM
Post by: Stein on August 18, 2015, 10:32:30 AM
I prefer 30-06 as the variety it has for load sizes can help her progress. Start off with lighter loads then she can move up to hotter load as she get more comfortable. I feel 30-06 has the biggest variety.
Saved the world and still works fantastic for any US big game.
Post by: mountainman on August 18, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
".223 is all you need, bears are wussies"
Followed by..
"Wouldn't hunt them with annything less then a .375 Whizbang magnum"
Usually ends with a more common sense..
" use what you are comfortable with. Good for deer, good for bear"
Thinking back on bears I have harvested, with everything from small to large calibers, maybe half of them (12ish) have been taken with the trusty old 30-06! Like stated above, good enough for any north American big game! 👍
Post by: X-Force on August 18, 2015, 09:51:29 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 24, 2015, 10:30:33 PM
Post by: Bango skank on August 24, 2015, 10:36:30 PM
I really like 7mm's I have a couple 7mm rem mags and a couple 7mm-08's. (snip) . . . If you are hunting the same rifle for years and are comfortable with it your going to make that shot when it counts, I feel that lever guns although very cool are extremely limited in what applications they are good at. :sry: :twocents:
And yet . . . you can have both!
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139 gr. 7mm @ 3100 fps. - Model 88 in .284 Winchester.
Instant flash back and memories. My first rifle at 15 was a Win Model 88, .308. My Dad got it while stationed in Turkey for wild boar hunting. Lost it in a house fire many years ago. LOVED that rifle!!!!
After shooting multiple different styles of rifle in multiple calibers, thats what i use now. I have much more expensive modern rifles but my 88 .308s are what i enjoy shooting. Killed my (dinky) bear last september with one at 350 yards, shooting a friggin core lokt. Bullseye.
Not bad for a 60 yr old gun with crap ammo
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 24, 2015, 11:45:14 PM
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on August 24, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
Post by: Bango skank on August 24, 2015, 11:59:31 PM
I really like the 257 wby mag
That is SHOCKING!!!
Post by: sagerat1 on August 27, 2015, 06:08:55 AM
Can be loaded to hunt most anything you want....
Post by: Curly on August 27, 2015, 08:46:50 AM
.250 Savage
:tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 27, 2015, 08:57:22 AM
Post by: xXLojackXx on August 27, 2015, 02:49:09 PM
Post by: Buckmark on August 27, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
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Post by: demontang on August 27, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 27, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
.17 HMR, base of the neck....
......at least you could of chosen the 17WSM......geeze!
Post by: crowinghen on September 03, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
hardly any recoil with this gun- it's the first large animal I've ever shot. I took my time and waited for THE shot i wanted. if he hadn't given it I was ok with that too.
Post by: swashington2128 on September 10, 2015, 01:37:23 PM
I am shopping for my girlfriends first rifle right now and am going with the 7MM-08. Low recoil, flat shooting, and lots of energy. would be a good choice for everything Washington has to offer.
As for me, I wear my Ruger Scout Rifle in a 308. Usually with a Vortex 1-4x. Great rifle/scope combo for anything under 200 yards.
Post by: Wacenturion on September 14, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
Post by: tgomez on September 14, 2015, 09:36:53 AM
I was out with a friend of mine a few years ago and he nailed a nice grey bearded sow with a 270. She died about 50 yards from the shot. This was my only bear experience and not sure if this is an issue with the caliber or not but she did not bleed. We found her the next day without a single drop being found. The fat on her sealed her up as soon as the bullet pass through.
I am shopping for my girlfriends first rifle right now and am going with the 7MM-08. Low recoil, flat shooting, and lots of energy. would be a good choice for everything Washington has to offer.
As for me, I wear my Ruger Scout Rifle in a 308. Usually with a Vortex 1-4x. Great rifle/scope combo for anything under 200 yards.
Shot my bear on the 5th of September with a 30-06 and it didn't have a blood trail at all, but it had blood EVERYWHERE where it died at. That was a heart/double lung shot to. The combination of fat and thick hide/hair make for one tough animal. They do go down quick with a well placed shot thougj. Mine went about 45 yards but did weigh 326 lbs, so it was a tough old Sow. My guess is around 12-15 years of age. Guess ill find out when get tooth results back. My recomendation is .270 as a min for bear.
Post by: hunhntr on September 18, 2015, 10:21:20 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 18, 2015, 10:22:38 AM