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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: ELKBURGER on August 10, 2015, 12:19:25 PM

Title: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 10, 2015, 12:19:25 PM: Got the Multi season elk tag. I had to get there an hour early and explain to the gal at the counter of this special tag. She called WDFW ahead of time to find out the details but she was ready and I was the only tag available. The guy behind me was 1/2 hour early and there were no more available within 1 minute of my purchase. Happy elk hunter this year. :tup:
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: KevinClimbs on August 10, 2015, 01:05:43 PM: Congrats. I arrived at Outdoor Emporium at 11:20, saw the line just went back to work Haha.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Bigbuckoholic on August 10, 2015, 01:08:22 PM: Hey me too! I went to one store at 9:45 and made a bold strategie to drive 30 minutes to the next store. Where I'm glad I did because I was first in line and and got my elk and deer tag!
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 01:12:57 PM: They need to just hold a second drawing, or better yet make people pay when they apply. Would fix the problem.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 10, 2015, 03:23:35 PM: I 2nd a 2nd drawing. It fair
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 03:25:29 PM: Paying up front would greatly increase odds initially which would be even better.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: lamrith on August 10, 2015, 05:44:45 PM: Why do you think paying up front would make any difference? Other than give the state even more of our $ I do not see an upside, in fact it could lead to less usage by the public. And do we really want to give the state more $ with how poorly they are managing the wildlife as it is?

Obviously people had things change since they applied, hence the 180 left over. If paid in advance none of you would have even had a chance to buy them today. State got paid, OH WELL to bad for hunters if the people chosen do not use them... At least in the current system there is a chance and the state is making sure that all permits are being given to people and fully utilized. am I bummed I had not chance in h3ll to get one heck yeah, but oh well.

I can agree with maybe a second draw from those not drawn, but just like those drawn, circumstances may have changed for those not chosen in 1st draw and then we see another delay and tags wasted..

Maybe a Opt in for second draw..? Email goes out to those that applied the 1st time and were not drawn. They have 5-10days to sign in and confirm you still want permit. Then state does a draw from those confirmed and off we go. no advantage to those living in remote places with a WDFW licensee and/or ability to just skip work to stand in line..
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: CarbonHunter on August 10, 2015, 07:14:59 PM: Quote from: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
They need to just hold a second drawing, or better yet make people pay when they apply. Would fix the problem.

The state has already done the 2nd drawing in the past. If I remember correctly they did 3 for deer before they sold them all. They should just sell the tags OTC. Is there really any measurable amount of increase in the number of deer and elk killed by multi season hunters? :dunno:
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: NoBark on August 10, 2015, 07:44:13 PM: Quote from: CarbonHunter on August 10, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
They need to just hold a second drawing, or better yet make people pay when they apply. Would fix the problem.

The state has already done the 2nd drawing in the past. If I remember correctly they did 3 for deer before they sold them all. They should just sell the tags OTC. Is there really any measurable amount of increase in the number of deer and elk killed by multi season hunters? :dunno:

I can't answer the harvest increase question with any authority, BUT, I can say with authority that this Bow-only hunter has seen a tremendous increase in late season archery hunters since the multi tag came along.
Because of that, I would love to see the deer multi tag open to early season archery ONLY. Try the bow and then if you don't score, pick up the gun and have at it.

:twocents:
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Webfoot on August 10, 2015, 08:03:06 PM: I also got the multi season tag. 2 others behind me in line were to late. The license sales guy said they sold out in 1 minute and 57 seconds.

John
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Buzz2401 on August 10, 2015, 08:13:01 PM: I just think its *censored* that they put them on sale at 1200 on a Monday when the majority of people are at work.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: bowelkaholic on August 10, 2015, 08:18:47 PM: ok carbon hunter hit the head of the nail, just sell residents over the counter tags in tell there sold then make non residents draw for so many .you can still only get one ! p. s . them tags went in 20sec. i got one the guy on comp. next to me got one thank god they had two and two people there to work them they try to do right after his they where gone whats that tell you state he he he he
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: barracuda163 on August 10, 2015, 08:28:13 PM: Pretty sad that not even one person in line at game department office got the elk tag even with both windows open. System froze. I'm not impressed one bit. It was a risk i was willing to take though.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: TMortensen on August 10, 2015, 09:19:06 PM: I was able to get mine along with the 3 other guys in line behind me. the place I went was on the ball and had all 4 do in less than 2 min. if this happens again next year I know where Ill be
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Thehowler on August 10, 2015, 09:35:18 PM: All looked fare to me. Put up leftover tags to people that bought the apps in the first place, set a time and sell the rest.
How could that be unfair?
They should make folks put up the money's to begin with. That would weed out most of the flakes. Do not apply if you are not series enough to buy!
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: bobcat on August 10, 2015, 09:42:42 PM: It used to be that they didn't want to sell all the multi-season tags that were offered. They drew more names in anticipation of a certain percentage of people not buying the tag after being drawn. That was all part of the plan, and it was said that only so many tags could be issued, because too many would be detrimental to deer and elk numbers. But, apparently they now have decided they'd rather have the extra money.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Bob33 on August 10, 2015, 09:59:50 PM: Quote from: CarbonHunter on August 10, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
They need to just hold a second drawing, or better yet make people pay when they apply. Would fix the problem.

The state has already done the 2nd drawing in the past. If I remember correctly they did 3 for deer before they sold them all. They should just sell the tags OTC. Is there really any measurable amount of increase in the number of deer and elk killed by multi season hunters? :dunno:
Yes.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: buglebrush on August 10, 2015, 10:56:20 PM: Quote from: lamrith on August 10, 2015, 05:44:45 PM
Why do you think paying up front would make any difference? Other than give the state even more of our $ I do not see an upside, in fact it could lead to less usage by the public. And do we really want to give the state more $ with how poorly they are managing the wildlife as it is?

Obviously people had things change since they applied, hence the 180 left over. If paid in advance none of you would have even had a chance to buy them today. State got paid, OH WELL to bad for hunters if the people chosen do not use them... At least in the current system there is a chance and the state is making sure that all permits are being given to people and fully utilized. am I bummed I had not chance in h3ll to get one heck yeah, but oh well.

I can agree with maybe a second draw from those not drawn, but just like those drawn, circumstances may have changed for those not chosen in 1st draw and then we see another delay and tags wasted..

Maybe a Opt in for second draw..? Email goes out to those that applied the 1st time and were not drawn. They have 5-10days to sign in and confirm you still want permit. Then state does a draw from those confirmed and off we go. no advantage to those living in remote places with a WDFW licensee and/or ability to just skip work to stand in line..

Actually it wouldn't give the state any more money than now. Probably less actually. It would help, because many people apply just for special draws. This would weed out the applicants that have no real intention of purchasing thus increasing draw odds. Idaho does their draws this way, and it is more effective in my opinion.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Lnk on August 11, 2015, 07:45:31 AM: I don't really agree with the way they did it but there are 597 stores in Washington that sell tags and what some people don't understand is that even if u were third in line u still prolly came closer to getting the tag than in the draw. I had the tag in 11 nd haven't drawn since. Saw they made the change this year so I knew I needed to b first in line somewhere nd got it. It does suck for the people who haft to work but multi elk is worth it to me to take a few hrs off
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Bigbuckoholic on August 11, 2015, 10:18:15 AM: I called in sick with food poisoning... Was worth the unpaid day off to get more time to chase elk to me..
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: TwoShot on August 11, 2015, 10:19:14 AM: I got my elk tag. I arrived at Sportsmens warehouse in SILVERDALE about 10 minutes after 8 AM. I saw 2 cars stop and park. It looked like they were getting out so I got out first and walker to the door to be first in line. I walked up to the counter and said, I want to be first in line for the multi season tag. The clerk said, it doesn't start till 1200. I said ok I'll wait. I asked the guy behind me to hold my spot and got a chair from the store and plopped down and wait for the time to buy. I sat and waited 3 1/2 hours and I was one of two people to get their multi tag. It was worth the 3 1/2 hour wait! The third guy didn't get his tag and he was mad as ....! Guess it goes to show the early birds gets the elk. There were about 18 people behind me. I'd do it again if they have leftover tags next year but, I'll get there earlier after this post.
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: msg on August 12, 2015, 05:31:43 AM: Flawed system Should have been a draw of all eligible. Not just for the people that can go hang at the counter for hours. Tough to do for a resident that is working in Great Falls
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: Elkterd on August 12, 2015, 06:32:06 AM: Way to go Burger :kneel:
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: HornHoarder on August 12, 2015, 07:30:19 AM: Anyone know if there are still multiseason deer tags left?
Title: Re: Early bird gets the LEFT OVER MULTI TAG!!!!!!
Post by: TwoShot on August 12, 2015, 08:19:49 AM: I don't know whAt happened to post re early bird gets the elk. It was posted by "elk berger" bit, supposed to be posted by "twoshot." hmmmmm