Post by: NorthFork on August 15, 2015, 07:54:39 AM
Post by: elkchaser54 on August 15, 2015, 02:10:49 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 15, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Post by: Landowner on August 15, 2015, 05:42:04 PM
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With multiple active large wildfires threatening homes and major highways across the region and critical shortages of firefighting resources, wilderness fires will not rank high on the priority list for available resources
“We are looking at a long-term suppression strategy and can expect to see these fires burning on the landscape well into fall,” said Ebert.
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/4511/27092/
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 15, 2015, 06:27:51 PM
Post by: JJB11B on August 15, 2015, 06:41:31 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 15, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on August 15, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
I have an east Wenaha archery tag and wanna cry. Looks like i will be calling WDFG and seeing about point reinbursement.
It's got to burn a lot of ground before I would start worrying. It's not all a loss yet.
Post by: BUTTER on August 16, 2015, 07:52:37 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 16, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
Post by: BUTTER on August 16, 2015, 07:59:49 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on August 16, 2015, 08:04:28 AM
Sorry this comment doesn't make sense :yeah: doesn't matter what's burnt and not burnt they have shutdown. The unit to access and are not going to fight it wilderness fire is not a priority with all the fires currently going as per Umatilla National Forest
I don't doubt it's shutdown. I've seen the notice. I'm just saying the hope isn't lost that they will lift the closure.
Post by: stickflngr on August 16, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=48.195387,-120.665589&z=11&t=h,MODIS_thermal,Wind_in_6_hrs,Current_fire&q=http://www.propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire.txt
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 16, 2015, 10:45:57 AM
If you have the Wenaha east you should be ok unless the fire moves alot further east. This is a map of the Chelan fire but if you zoom out it also shows the fire's in the Blues. I hunt lick creek right around the eastern boundary of the Wenaha and unless something changes that area should be fine. Misery springs campground is at that eastern boundary so there should be a little breathing room...
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=48.195387,-120.665589&z=11&t=h,MODIS_thermal,Wind_in_6_hrs,Current_fire&q=http://www.propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire.txt
basically the whole wilderness plus some is shut down. West/east and a good portion of tucannon. Didn't see much smoke this morning but I'm not sure what could stop it. It was fairly breezy also. I feel for the guys who finally drew tags.
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 16, 2015, 10:54:59 AM
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Post by: Mxracer532 on August 16, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 16, 2015, 09:48:15 PM
I drew a Wenaha East archery tag and am hoping for the best. I have arranged 30 days strait off work for the hunt. Really hope I don't head over with my roasting stick instead of my bow. :bash:
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Jim we wont need to start a fire to make smoars. :(
Post by: bobcat on August 16, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
Anybody know the phone# to who I should call if infact the area is shut down and im unable to hunt?
To call regarding what?
Post by: tonymoe on August 17, 2015, 05:59:54 AM
We talked to him for about 45 min. He said there is a small crew on the grizzly fire but wouldn't get much help because of the priority of the fire and probly wouldn't get any air support due to the planes all being on the Clearwater fire.
I was really afraid to draw this year due to fire threat, but I can't get all ticked off on something I can't control. I had max points and I have high hopes off breaking my body dragging meat from the bottom of that place.
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 17, 2015, 07:22:06 AM
Anybody know the phone# to who I should call if infact the area is shut down and im unable to hunt?
To call regarding what?
Regarding getting my points back if im unable to hunt due to the fire.
Post by: Firedogg on August 17, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on August 17, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Anybody know the phone# to who I should call if infact the area is shut down and im unable to hunt?
To call regarding what?
Regarding getting my points back if im unable to hunt due to the fire.
Somehow I feel the state isn't gonna give a crap... But If the whole unit does burn I hope they do for you.. Good Luck
Post by: bobcat on August 17, 2015, 11:05:18 AM
Anybody know the phone# to who I should call if infact the area is shut down and im unable to hunt?
To call regarding what?
Regarding getting my points back if im unable to hunt due to the fire.
I would call the Wildlife program at 360-902-2515. I bet they're already discussing what to do for those who are unable to hunt because of the closures. But I'm pretty sure they won't have an answer for you yet.
In 2012 I had an antlerless elk permit for the early muzzleloader season in the Winston unit. Most of the unit was closed to entry because Weyerhaeuser closed their lands due to fire danger. The WDFW sent out letters and gave us another 2 week season in December.
Post by: timberfaller on August 17, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Getting calls for what we have sitting but have no operators for them and what we have out is coming on their 14 day rotation which we have back for.
Hunting season will be interesting to say the least. Probably same amount of hunters as last year, but going to get crammed into a smaller sized areas.
What didn't burn last year in the Carlton complex between Lake Chelan is now burning. What burned in 1971 is now getting cleared again.
Post by: tonymoe on August 17, 2015, 12:07:38 PM
I'm waiting for a call back from the bio, and will post when I get any more info
Post by: Woodchuck on August 17, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Post by: tonymoe on August 17, 2015, 12:56:18 PM
Out of Spokane, Wdfw Vancouver gave me his info and to call him
Post by: toyman2 on August 17, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
They do have some teams on it with little air support but they have some.
The animals are doing strange things this year. I have seen more buck, big bucks grouped up in large groups this year than ever. One group had 15 shooter bucks in it.
Post by: jackelope on August 17, 2015, 01:32:44 PM
As of yesterday on 2000 acres are burning. There is over 100K to hunt.
They do have some teams on it with little air support but they have some.
The animals are doing strange things this year. I have seen more buck, big bucks grouped up in large groups this year than ever. One group had 15 shooter bucks in it.
98k acres to hunt won't do anybody any good if they can't get to it.
:dunno:
Post by: Woodchuck on August 17, 2015, 01:33:43 PM
WinnerAs of yesterday on 2000 acres are burning. There is over 100K to hunt.
They do have some teams on it with little air support but they have some.
The animals are doing strange things this year. I have seen more buck, big bucks grouped up in large groups this year than ever. One group had 15 shooter bucks in it.
98k acres to hunt won't do anybody any good if they can't get to it.
:dunno:
Post by: kenjo on August 17, 2015, 03:15:45 PM
Dang, looks like a drive to the area of Table Rock Lookout is out to look into the Watershed for my hunt.
FS 64 is open. You can drive to Table Rock. Visibility is poor due to the smoke. Stop by the lookout and say hi to me and Gus, the lookout dog.
Post by: Woodchuck on August 17, 2015, 03:25:57 PM
Post by: tonymoe on August 17, 2015, 03:29:17 PM
46 is closed at the intersection with 64, correct?
Correct, 64 is open
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 18, 2015, 07:27:03 AM
Post by: tonymoe on August 18, 2015, 08:14:37 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 18, 2015, 11:26:33 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 18, 2015, 11:29:39 AM
Post by: skeeter 20i on August 18, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
I got ahold of the state and was told thqt at this time they dont plan on closing down the hunt just as of right now. They did say they wouldnt make a decision till the season actually starts. (Gee thanks)!
I'm confused as to what you think they should do?
It's really a lose/lose situation for the people making the call they will never make everyone happy. They're either going to be the bad guys or get very lucky and everything will work out.
If they decide to call it and give your points back and it's not necessary the lucky hunters are out the draw on the tag, and people will be mad.
If they choose to hold out until the last minute in hopes that the hunt will be possible and have to call it off, then people will be mad they waited so long.
etc. etc.
So what do you think they should do?
Not trying to bust your chops here but it seems like kinda a no win situation.
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 18, 2015, 12:25:25 PM
I got ahold of the state and was told thqt at this time they dont plan on closing down the hunt just as of right now. They did say they wouldnt make a decision till the season actually starts. (Gee thanks)!
I'm confused as to what you think they should do?
It's really a lose/lose situation for the people making the call they will never make everyone happy. They're either going to be the bad guys or get very lucky and everything will work out.
If they decide to call it and give your points back and it's not necessary the lucky hunters are out the draw on the tag, and people will be mad.
If they choose to hold out until the last minute in hopes that the hunt will be possible and have to call it off, then people will be mad they waited so long.
etc. etc.
So what do you think they should do?
Not trying to bust your chops here but it seems like kinda a no win situation.
Well after just talking to Mark a bio out of Walla Walla it would be nice if they had alittle more comunication with the forest service about the situation and the fires. (He had no idea what or even where the fire were located exactly. He looked at the map while on the phone with me.
He did say that they plan on having a meeting to discuss the situation and closures hopefully by the end of the week.
As to what i think the state should do if infact they do shut the hunt down, I think they should just roll our (us permit holders) permits into 2016. We already won the lottery, why force us to try again and potentially not draw again for 5-who knows 15 years??? One of us might not ever get the chance if we had to go back into the pool again due to health or some other cicumstance. Just my .2
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 18, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on August 18, 2015, 07:30:55 PM
That wouldn't sit well the majority. I'd hope for the same if I were in your shoes though.I agree the majority wouldn't go for it, the best they will probably do if shut down is give points back. I'd be tempted to go hunt anyway knowing I might not get drawn in the future. I'm glad I didn't put in for the east this year.
Post by: BUTTER on August 19, 2015, 10:32:48 AM
Post by: LittleJohn on August 19, 2015, 11:21:36 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 19, 2015, 12:53:20 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 19, 2015, 01:13:29 PM
Post by: kenjo on August 19, 2015, 01:20:06 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 19, 2015, 01:22:06 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 19, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
GRIZZLY BEAR COMPLEX UPDATE:
Due to extreme fire behavior over the last 24 hours the ability to post an accurate report has been limited. However, Garfield County Emergency Management can give this update:
Today fire behavior became extreme with rapid fire growth moving south towards the Washington/Oregon State line. The fire is approximately 1/2 mile from the Wenaha river at this time with acerage estimated between 9,000 and 10,000 acres, the majority of this fire is still in Columbia County. In addition to the previous road and trail closures already made available, more closures are increasing at this time and a updated list of closures will be made available as soon as possible. A Type 2 National Incident Management team has been ordered and is expected to arrive in Pomeroy on 8/19. Beginning tomorrow residents and property owners directly to the south of the fire area will be contacted and made aware of the possibility of increasing fire activity in their areas.
Updates will be made available as information is forthcoming.
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2015, 01:34:24 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 19, 2015, 01:35:26 PM
Give us three days of soft rain and I'll be a happy man. I am cutting trees and putting a huge gravel ring around my buildings...seriously reconsidering where I will put my house after this fire season.
Post by: kenjo on August 19, 2015, 01:38:40 PM
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/4511/27478/
Post by: jackelope on August 19, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
Latest closure information:
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/4511/27478/
FIRE CLOSURE
UMATILLA NATIONAL FOREST
Forest Order #T2015-0414-UM-12
Pursuant to 36 CFR, Sec. 261.50(a) and (b), the following acts are prohibited in the area described in this order within the Pomeroy Ranger District on the Umatilla National Forest beginning on August 18, 2015 at 00:01 until further notice:
1.
It is prohibited to go into or be in the area described below and shown on the map in Appendix A (36 CFR 261.53 (e));
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The Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness
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The area north of Forest Service Road (FSR) 6415 to the wilderness boundary.
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The area north and west between FSR 62 and the wilderness boundary, from the junction of FSR 6413 and FSR 62, north-northeast to the Forest Service boundary.
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The area north and west between the Forest Service boundary where it intersects with FSR 62, north to where it intersects with FSR 40.
1.
It is prohibited to use any type of traffic on the following roads (36 CFR 261.54(c));
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FSR 46 from the Forest Service boundary on the north to the junction of FSR 64 to the south
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FSR 64 from the junction of FSR 46 to the junction of FSR 6415.
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FSR 6415 from the junction of FSR 64 to the junction of FSR 6413.
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FSR 6413 from the junction of FSR 6415 to the junction of FSR 62.
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FSR 62 from the junction of FSR 6413, north-northeast to the Forest Service boundary.
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FSR 40 from the junction of the Forest Service boundary, north to the junction of FSR 4030
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FSR 4030
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FSR 4713
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FSR 4712
Pursuant to 36 CFR, Sec. 261.50 (e), the following persons are exempt from this order:
(1.) Persons with a permit specifically authorizing the prohibited act or omission.
(2.) Any Federal, State or local law enforcement officer, or member of an organized rescue or firefighting force in the performance of an official duty.
These prohibitions are in addition to the general prohibitions in 36 CFR Part 261,
Subpart A.
Done at Pendleton, Oregon, this _19th_ day of August, 2015.
_______/s/Bill Gamble_______
Bill Gamble
Forest Supervisor
Umatilla National Forest
Violation of these prohibitions is punishable by a fine of not more than $5000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or both. (16 U.S.C. 551 and 18 U.S.C. 3559 and 3571)
Statement of Need:
In order to protect the safety of forest visitors from activities associated with the Grizzly Bear Fire Complex. This will prevent the entry of the public into the fire and prevent interference with fire fighting activities and minimize hazards to the public and firefighters.
Enforcement Procedures:
Enforcement will be conducted by FPOs, LEOs and SAs. Discretion will be used in the first couple of days after enacting the order and the preferred method of compliance will be a warning since the goal is to clear the area and protect the public.
Posting:
Posting shall be done by the forest staff or fire personnel assigned to the fire. Posting should be made at all major access point to the area. Barricades can be used to block entry on roads to the area.
Assessment of Need and Enforcement Plan
1. Background:
These restrictions have been deemed necessary because of the hazards associated with the Grizzly Bear Complex Fire. This order reduces the affected area to those that are still at risk from active fire.
2. Intent of Subpart B Order:
These restrictions are intended to help ensure public and firefighter safety.
3. Enforcement Plan:
Action Responsible Official Date
Prepare proposed order Appropriate Staff with LEI input
Review proposed order Acting Patrol Captain, 8/18/2015
Approve proposed order Forest Supervisor
Post order in accordance with
36 CFR 261.51 District Staff Officer and Staff
Prepare news release for local media
describing the order and management objectives PAO
Officers assigned to the fire will assume primary
responsibility for enforcing this order. Officers will
exercise normal discretion in resolving violations.
All enforcement actions involving warnings,
citations and arrests will be conducted under protocols
established by the Patrol Captain for the North East
Oregon zone. Law Enforcement Personnel/Forest Protection Officers Upon Approval
_____/s/ Bill Gamble____________ /s/ Robert W Field
Bill Gamble Robert W Field
Forest Supervisor Patrol Captain
Unit Information
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Pendleton, OR 97801
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Phone: 541-278-3722
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Post by: 92xj on August 19, 2015, 01:41:00 PM
Links to save. I watch these all day long to see what's going on with these fires.
Wind
http://hint.fm/wind/index.html
Lightning
http://www.lightningmaps.org/blitzortung/america/index.php?bo_page=archive&bo_map=usa&bo_animation=now
fire map, that has already been posted.
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=48.195387,-120.665589&z=11&t=h,MODIS_thermal,Wind_in_6_hrs,Current_fire&q=http://www.propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire.txt
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 19, 2015, 01:45:27 PM
I was told by a local guy that the fire will probably leave the wilderness soon. He said today. He's involved in firefighting in the area. He said no resources available. When it hits the NF and private ground, they won't be able to stop it. Grouse Flats in WA is an area he mentioned it hitting, along with jumping over into Oregon.According to inciweb and MODIS it's made it into Oregon.
Post by: kenjo on August 19, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
Update with map of fire areas.
Post by: Landowner on August 19, 2015, 02:18:26 PM
And wind hasn't got worked up yet.
Post by: hntnfool2 on August 19, 2015, 02:42:27 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 19, 2015, 03:03:02 PM
WDFW wont give back points and they wont care about the fires in the area, the tag holders during the complex fire never got to hunt due to the closures and they didn't get their points back.
I would still encourage those folks to ask the question and raise Cane. Maybe someday this policy will change :dunno:
Post by: elkchaser54 on August 19, 2015, 03:29:48 PM
Post by: mtncook on August 19, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
I have had a hard time with this one. The fire has done a lot of good cleaning up and going outr when it gets into the grass. Yesterdays run was a hot one but like mentioned earlier it is going south and now east. I'm hoping it is pretty much done in my unit. There is still some fire close to the Lookout but it has been a slow separate fire from the main one.
WE are expecting winds again Thursday and Friday, the weather guys have been very close in their predictions.
I appreciate all my hunters waiting to see how it rolls out. I will not make any predictions until I can see it myself. As mentioned the whole unit is not burning. At least one of my cameras was spotted by fire crew, they smiled and waved.
My scouting and cameras have revealed some real nice bulls and bucks. Some bulls we have been watching for a few years now.
mtncook
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 19, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
WDFW wont give back points and they wont care about the fires in the area, the tag holders during the complex fire never got to hunt due to the closures and they didn't get their points back.
Huh... guys I talked to had the option of getting their points back. They chose not to and hunted.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 19, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
You are being a baby if you are worrying about getting your points back because of a fire. Yes its 10,000 acres but the amount of hunters in East weneha is very minimal. Still plenty of amazing hunting land in there, plus the fire is burning south now. Which means its Oregon's problem haha not ours anymore. Im sorry that you might have to work a little harder to get your elk. I know I would not be complaining about possessing that tag. AND ARCHERY season is nearly 4+ weeks away. Yes they close the wilderness but just for safety not cause its all on fire.
:bash:
Post by: Landowner on August 19, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
But winds up to 20 mph plus in that forecast. Wind and fire a bad combo.
Wenaha taking a beating.
Post by: tonymoe on August 19, 2015, 08:11:02 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 19, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
Cooler temps forecast through Saturday. That will help some.
But winds up to 20 mph plus in that forecast. Wind and fire a bad combo.
Wenaha taking a beating.
Nature is just cleaning herself up.
Post by: Branden on August 19, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
Post by: elkchaser54 on August 19, 2015, 10:52:28 PM
With my brother and I both having archery tags down there I'm hoping it works out. If it doesn't that's life so oh well. At least it's making better habitat for the future
EXACTLY !
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 20, 2015, 05:57:54 AM
I just attended the transition from team 3 to team 2. As usual it will take some time to evaluate. Yesterday it made a big run south, crossed the Wenaha and is climbing to the road at Cross Canyon. As always safety comes before suppression and Troy and Grouse Flats are alerted to Evacuation Level 1 this morning.Thanks for the update Dave!
I have had a hard time with this one. The fire has done a lot of good cleaning up and going outr when it gets into the grass. Yesterdays run was a hot one but like mentioned earlier it is going south and now east. I'm hoping it is pretty much done in my unit. There is still some fire close to the Lookout but it has been a slow separate fire from the main one.
WE are expecting winds again Thursday and Friday, the weather guys have been very close in their predictions.
I appreciate all my hunters waiting to see how it rolls out. I will not make any predictions until I can see it myself. As mentioned the whole unit is not burning. At least one of my cameras was spotted by fire crew, they smiled and waved.
My scouting and cameras have revealed some real nice bulls and bucks. Some bulls we have been watching for a few years now.
mtncook
Post by: nwhunter on August 20, 2015, 06:57:36 AM
With my brother and I both having archery tags down there I'm hoping it works out. If it doesn't that's life so oh well. At least it's making better habitat for the futureGood attitude man!!! When we have firefighters losing their lives fighting these fires it does put in perspective our hunting passions. I feel bad for tagholders this year but yes their is more to life and I have no doubt you will get your points back if you dont get to hunt due to closures.
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 20, 2015, 11:35:25 AM
You are being a baby if you are worrying about getting your points back because of a fire. Yes its 10,000 acres but the amount of hunters in East weneha is very minimal. Still plenty of amazing hunting land in there, plus the fire is burning south now. Which means its Oregon's problem haha not ours anymore. Im sorry that you might have to work a little harder to get your elk. I know I would not be complaining about possessing that tag. AND ARCHERY season is nearly 4+ weeks away. Yes they close the wilderness but just for safety not cause its all on fire.
A baby?? Your being an arrogant jerk to say such a thing. I bet you wouldnt be saying that if you were a tag holder. Sure the fire is 10k acres and alot of land isnt burned. BUT the entire unit is CLOSED!!!!!!! So the fact of the size of the fire being small compared to whats not burnt isnt the issue. YES its going south but that doesnt matter when the forest service has the whole wilderness area closed! Remember guys put in for this tag for ALOT of years and to not get that opperatunity when they FINALLY win the WA hunters lottery only to have it taken away is a HUGE deal. Think of someone who may never draw the tag again, or due to an un-forseen health reason never get that chance to have that dream hunt. Im sure if you really put yourself if one of those guys shoes you would be singing a different tune!
Post by: JamesK. on August 20, 2015, 02:36:20 PM
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Post by: KopperBuck on August 20, 2015, 03:00:10 PM
Here's a cell pic from just south of Imbler. First I've been able to see since the valley cleared out from all the other fires. No Bueno. And Troy just got a level 3 notice... *censored*
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 20, 2015, 04:59:55 PM
Post by: 92xj on August 20, 2015, 05:21:10 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 20, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 20, 2015, 05:37:35 PM
The Grizzly Bear Complex Fire made a significant run to the east this afternoon pushed by sustained winds of 10 MPH and gusts up to 25 MPH. The plume is now visible from La Grande, Oregon, Walla Walla, Washington and surrounding communities.
A Level Three Evacuation notice has been issued by Wallowa, Garfield and Asotin County officials for the Eden Bench, Troy and Grouse Flat communities. Level Three Evacuation means danger is currently affecting your area or is imminent, and you should LEAVE IMMEDIATLY. Forest officials have recommended a Level One evacuation notice for the outlying communities north and east to Anatone, Washington.
Had to go to Walla Walla today. This morning was looking and saw no indication of a fire other than haze. Left town this afternoon and holy moly. Big ole plume. I'll try to post a pic that i took with the phone.
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 20, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 21, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
ANATONE, WA/TROY, OR - Approximately 20,000 acres have burned as a result of the wind-driven Grizzly Bear Complex in Garfield and Asotin Counties (WA) and Walllowa County (OR). Asotin County Emergency Management Director Butch Aiken says three homes and about 12 outbuildings have been lost. Approximately 60 people continue to fight the fires and a helicopter dumped water on it until dark last night.
From Boggan's to Troy, Oregon is at a LEVEL 3 evacuation level. The area from Anatone to Big Butte to the US Forest Service line, and from Anatone to Boggan's is a LEVEL 1 evacuation.
There are several road closures, including off of Asotin Creek and Lick Creek, and all of the forest is closed.
Meanwhile, Wallowa County officials issued a LEVEL 1 evacuation from Flora, Lost Prairie North, and East to Highway 3.
"If anyone knows anyone that might still be camping out there...they need to text them or try to figure out where they are," Aiken says. He adds that there are officials searching the areas trying to make sure everyone is out of harm's way.
Fire officials are expecting the fire to become very active again with gusty winds today.
Aiken will be at the Anatone Community Center at around noon to hand out maps and information to residents in the fire area.
An evacuation center has not been set up in the Anatone area because of the potential for the evacuation level being increased there. The Grange and the school in Flora will be open for shelter purposes. Enterprise High School will also be available for shelter purposes.
Post by: emac on August 21, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
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Post by: andersonjk4 on August 21, 2015, 12:00:58 PM
Grizzly Bear Complex Update, August 21, 2015
Incident: Grizzly Bear Complex Wildfire
Released: 33 min. ago
Grizzly Bear
Complex Fire
DAILY UPDATE
August 21, 2015
1100 Hours
Fire Information Center
(541) 612-0059 7am to 9pm
Firefighters working to manage rapidly growing Grizzly Bear Complex on three fronts
Elgin, OR., The Grizzly Bear Complex has been burning in the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness of the Umatilla National Forest for several days. It grew significantly yesterday and last night, within the Wilderness and running to the south and east. Critical weather conditions continue today and additional fire growth is expected. The fire is currently estimated at 48,000 acres.
Evacuation notices include:
Level 3: Troy, Eden Bench, Grouse Flat, Bartlett
Level 3: From Troy to Hwy 129 at Boggan’s Oasis (16 miles northeast of Troy)
Level 2: From Boggan’s Oasis to Anatone
Level 2: From Clearwater Guard Station to Lick Creek Road; from Lick Creek Rd. to Asotin city limits; around Asotin to the Snake River; from the Snake River south to the state line; from the state line west to Highway 129
Level 2: Flora, Lost Prairie, Redmond Grade northeast to Highway 3
Sheriffs are making personal contact with affected residents. Most of Troy and surrounding Level 3 evacuations are cleared of people. Only a few remained behind to aid in suppression efforts and to feed and care for firefighters.
Three primary residences and twelve outbuildings have burned. Additional assessments continue. A structure protection task force from the Oregon State Fire Marshall’s office is arriving today to assist.
The fire continues to spread east and additional evacuations are being proposed and will be announced as they occur.
The fire is currently being managed by Washington Interagency Incident Management Team #4 with Brian Gales Incident Commander. The day’s effort continues to focus on point protection of primary residences with current resources on scene. Fire personnel will continue to identify opportunities to safely contain the fire and establish communication between fire managers and local officials to ensure that evacuations are implemented as needed.
Grizzly Bear Complex InciWeb site: http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4511/
Facebook: www.facebook.com/UmatillaNF
Twitter: @UmatillaNF
Forest Website: www.fs.usda.gov/umatilla/
Quick Facts:
Fire Size: 48,000 acres
Fire Start Date: August 13, 2015
Location: Walla Walla and Pomeroy Ranger Districts, Umatilla National Forest
Hazards: Rapid fire growth with crowning and spotting behaviors.
Values at Risk: Public safety, Communities of Troy, Grouse Flats, Eden Bench; Long Meadows Guard Station; Historic Hoodoo lookout and compound
Cause: Lightning
Containment: 0%
Post by: Timberstalker on August 21, 2015, 12:37:50 PM
In 2 states.
Damn
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 21, 2015, 01:39:06 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on August 21, 2015, 01:45:37 PM
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 21, 2015, 04:02:56 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 21, 2015, 04:17:20 PM
I bet they are regretting the decision to just let it burn itself out when it was only 500 acres now. Probably wishing they would of thrown more man power at it instead of pulling man power off of it.
Again........
Post by: rosscrazyelk on August 21, 2015, 07:04:34 PM
I hope the wolves were chased back into Oregon ...
Post by: kenjo on August 22, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
I bet they are regretting the decision to just let it burn itself out when it was only 500 acres now. Probably wishing they would of thrown more man power at it instead of pulling man power off of it.
From where? Chelan? John Day? Okanogan? Any of the other fires that were burning at the same time but threatening homes? The reason more resources weren't used is because they weren't available.
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 22, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Post by: Opportunist on August 22, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 22, 2015, 05:02:58 PM
Here's the 0900 update from this morning
Grizzly Bear Complex Fire
Morning Update, 0900 Saturday August 22, 2015
New Number for Fire Information (541) 437-0138
Incident Management Teams Assume Command of Fire
Washington Interagency Incident Management Team 4 and the Oregon State Fire Marshal Green Team assumed a unified command of the Grizzly Bear Complex fire on Friday. Firefighting resources including crews, equipment, and structural apparatus are now deployed to the complex, which is burning in both Oregon and Washington. The complex now includes 5 lightning caused fires after some of the original 17 burned together. The fire is currently burning on the Umatilla National Forest and private land protected by the Washington Department of Natural Resources and the Oregon Department of Forestry.
Three structure protection task forces mobilized through the Oregon State Fire Marshal’s Office worked in the areas around the Troy and Flora communities during the daytime operational period yesterday and one task force worked during the night. Crews were optimistic that fire conditions were less severe than yesterday and that fire was still a couple of miles away from Flora. Those task forces will be in the area again today, continuing with structure triage and have coordinated plans in place with wildland crews given the forecasted weather and fire behavior conditions.
An estimated 300-400 structures are scattered throughout the area threatened by the fire. The fire is currently active on all sides. The fire is generally still west of the Grand Ronde River, but moving northeast and down-canyon from Troy. Weather conditions today appear more favorable than in recent days, with lighter winds, though conditions remain dry.
Current evacuation notices include:
Level 3: Troy, Eden Bench, Grouse Flat, and Bartlett. The area North of the Grande Ronde river at Eden Bench and Troy to the state line. East along the state line to Hwy 129, north through Boggan’s Oasis to Big Butte.
Level 2: An area east of Hwy 129 from the State line north through Boggan’s Oasis to Big Butte. An area within the boundary from the Clearwater Guard Station to Lick Creek Road; from Lick Creek Rd. to Asotin city limits; around Asotin to the Snake River; from the Snake River south to the state line; from the state line west to Highway 129. Flora, Lost Prairie, Redmond Grade northeast to Highway 3
Level 1: City of Asotin, WA
Additional updates will be provided on Facebook and Inciweb later today.
Quick Facts:
Fire Complex Size: 59,150 acres
Fire Start Date: August 13, 2015
Location: 20 miles SE of Dayton, WA, burning on Umatilla National Forest and private lands protected by the Oregon Dept. of Forestry and Washington Dept. of Natural Resources.
Hazards: Rapid fire growth with crowning, spotting and wind-driven runs, unauthorized drone flights.
Values at Risk: Public safety, Communities of Troy, Grouse Flats, Eden Bench; Long Meadows Guard Station; Historic Hoodoo lookout, communications facilities.
Cause: Lightning
Containment: 0%
Personnel: 262
Resources: 5 Crews, 14 Engines, 1 Helicopter (Type 3)
Structures Lost: 22
Evacuation Levels:
Level 1: Be alert to situation.
Level 2: Be ready to evacuate.
Level 3: Leave immediately.
A Red Cross Shelter is located at Enterprise High School, 201 SE 4th St in Enterprise, phone 541-519-2360
Post by: HunterStrait on August 22, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
I read that its going to take 2 months to contain the fire. :bash:
Well, damn. Not sure if i want to look the next time i head up to skyline.
Post by: BUTTER on August 22, 2015, 05:38:23 PM
Post by: kenjo on August 22, 2015, 05:39:00 PM
(https://kenjo.smugmug.com/2015-Fires/i-R6KJqFr/0/XL/IMG_1207-XL.jpg)
(https://kenjo.smugmug.com/2015-Fires/i-m78bX6N/0/XL/IMG_1218-XL.jpg)
Post by: go4steelhd on August 22, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
Post by: Landowner on August 22, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
This Grizzly Bear fire looks to be the kind that can go any direction it wants.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 22, 2015, 05:56:33 PM
Post by: HunterStrait on August 22, 2015, 06:04:51 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 22, 2015, 06:25:00 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 22, 2015, 06:30:45 PM
Heh, i think we all need to get together and do the rain dance, its our last hope, don't you think?
I not sure the picture I'm getting of Campment and I in a loin cloth wigglin and jigglin is not something I really want to see. :yike: :yike: :yike:
Post by: BLUEBULLS on August 23, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
Post by: 400out on August 23, 2015, 02:54:06 PM
The neighbors by our cabin decided it would be nice to have a big raging campfire last night :bash:OH that sounds like a real smart move!!!!!!!!!!
Did you go say hi!!!!! :bash:
Post by: 400out on August 23, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Only 10 years after the school fire :bash:
This one could change things for a lot of people for a lot of years!!!!!!!
Post by: runamuk on August 23, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
Heh, i think we all need to get together and do the rain dance, its our last hope, don't you think?
I not sure the picture I'm getting of Campment and I in a loin cloth wigglin and jigglin is not something I really want to see. :yike: :yike: :yike:
Well if everyone does the rain dance it might work and then everyone who jiggles will be jiggling. and why you wearing a loincloth I did not know there was required rain dance costumery?
Post by: BUTTER on August 23, 2015, 03:34:47 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on August 23, 2015, 03:38:52 PM
Post by: frazierw on August 23, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on August 23, 2015, 07:28:24 PM
The neighbors by our cabin decided it would be nice to have a big raging campfire last night :bash:idiots
Post by: Landowner on August 23, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
Post by: frazierw on August 24, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 24, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 24, 2015, 05:06:11 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,179632.0.html
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 24, 2015, 06:00:42 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on August 25, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on August 25, 2015, 09:43:10 AM
I hope there are some management changes in some of these areas to better protect and utilize these resources.
Something has to change. Our State's worst, most damaging fires have been over the last 10 +/- years. This can't be a coincidence when looking at the changes they have implemented in this time frame.
Post by: h20hunter on August 25, 2015, 09:43:24 AM
Take a look at the pics in this thread.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,179632.0.html
Don't know how I missed those.....just wow.....don't know what to say about those. Very tragic. Godbless those fighting the flames.
Post by: JamesK. on August 25, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
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Post by: n_mathews13 on August 25, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: frazierw on August 25, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Post by: JLS on August 25, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
I hope there are some management changes in some of these areas to better protect and utilize these resources.
Something has to change. Our State's worst, most damaging fires have been over the last 10 +/- years. This can't be a coincidence when looking at the changes they have implemented in this time frame.
What specifically would you like to see changed. What changes by "they" are you referring to?
Post by: Timberstalker on August 25, 2015, 05:07:56 PM
I hope there are some management changes in some of these areas to better protect and utilize these resources.
Something has to change. Our State's worst, most damaging fires have been over the last 10 +/- years. This can't be a coincidence when looking at the changes they have implemented in this time frame.
What specifically would you like to see changed. What changes by "they" are you referring to?
"They" would be the Forest Service. I've read and reviewed their current Planning and Resource management and strongly question their reductions of certain practices. With all respect to this thread, I will leave it at that.
Post by: Landowner on August 25, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: JJB11B on August 25, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
This gives a decent picture of all the different fires. just scroll around the map to whatever fire you want just like google earth....
Post by: n_mathews13 on August 26, 2015, 06:48:40 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 26, 2015, 07:48:31 PM
Post by: B.G.hunter on August 26, 2015, 08:00:19 PM
Looking at the fire map it looks like it's moving in on Godman nowYeah, not a lot they can do until it gets close to the top. I think they are going to use the roads a fire line. I just hope the conditions are right so they can stop it there. :dunno:
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 26, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Wednesday August 26, 2015
Grizzly Bear Complex Fire becomes active
with warm temperatures, ultra-dry fuels, clearer air
Elgin, Ore. – Light winds from the northeast pushed some of the smoke away from the 67,930-acre Grizzly Bear Complex Fire today, providing solar radiation on the fire, increasing consumption and reduction of fuels throughout the interior, and activating fire behavior along portions of the fire perimeter. Two areas of primary concern tonight include fire activity along the south and northeast perimeters.
Firefighters are concentrating efforts to catch an aggressive push by the fire to the south on a flat north of the Elbow Creek. The fire has spotted about a quarter-mile south of the 62 Road and firefighters are currently adjusting tactics to prevent further spread of the fire. This area of the Complex is considered a critical juncture.
Fire activity also increased this afternoon at the Bear Ridge Fire, a 500-acre fire burning east of Oregon Butte and 2 miles north of the main Complex. Three helicopters have been active there, and keeping up with the increased fire behavior all day today.
The weather continues to be dry and warm with weak wind out of the northeast. The winds have cleared out smoke, allowing pre-heating of fuels throughout the Complex. On Saturday temperatures are expected to cool down and humidity to rise with an incoming cold front.
The cold front, initially predicted to bring lightning into the area, will weaken in eastern Oregon and Washington. No lightning is expected tonight or through the weekend. Only a few tenths of inches of rain is expected to fall here but more is predicted for central Washington, bringing wetting rains on the many fires burning there.
A public meeting will be held in Dayton, Wash., at 7 p.m. tomorrow (Thursday) night, August 27, 2015, at the Seneca Activity Center. A briefing about the Grizzly Bear Complex Fire will be presented by Brian Gales, incident commander, operations personnel, administrators from the Umatilla National Forest, and emergency managers from Columbia County
Post by: Joseph on August 27, 2015, 06:18:37 AM
That version of the map claims you can turn on overlay layers with wind data. Those layers no longer work since heavy use of the map kept crashing NOAA's servers that deliver the wind forecasts.
Below is a link to version 3 of the map which includes layers showing:
Fire weather forecast
Mileposts - Washington State
Utilities (transmission lines) - Washington State
You can click the 'top' layer and see a popup with all the data the GIS server has for the thing you clicked.
To see the map legend, learn how to turn layers on off and get other tips for using the map, please click "About this map" in the upper left corner.
Fire map version 3:
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.000000,-118.000000&z=7&t=m,MODIS_from_GeoMAC,Fire_perimeter&q=http://www.propertylinemaps.com/p/public_land_map/USA/USA_wildland_fire_3.txt
Joseph
Redmond, WA
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 27, 2015, 08:52:37 AM
Post by: B.G.hunter on August 29, 2015, 09:10:24 PM
Grizzly Bear Complex Fire
37 mins ·
Evening Update, 8 p.m.
Saturday August 29, 2015
Firefighter disengagement from the Grizzly Bear
Complex Fire goes as planned, no major fire growth
Elgin, Ore. – In anticipation of high winds today, firefighters disengaged from the fire in all branches to wait out any potential increase in fire activity or dangerous, falling snags. Once the wind died down, crews re-engaged, finding for the most part the containment lines had held. The fire burned to the ridge at Godman. Crews will return tomorrow to evaluate structures in the Turkey Trail and Godman areas.
A crew scouted the 733-acre Bear Ridge Fire and reported no significant growth.
Similarly, other branches reported minor fire activity and no huge push by the fire. Firefighters reengaged after the wind event to continue mopping up around homes in the Grouse Flat area. Fire lines held for the most part along the east perimeter and the fire continued backing to the prepared 4039 Road fire line. Crews continued to mop up fire lines along the road this afternoon.
Firefighters along the southern perimeter disengaged until late afternoon and returned to check on the large spot fire that had burned over containment lines on Wednesday. Containment line around the spot held.
The new Tucannon Fire started near the Tucannon River south of Dayton during high winds today, growing quickly through grass and trees to more than 500 acres, and threatening homes, crops, and radio and utility infrastructure. Evacuation Level 3 orders are in place for threatened residences. The State Fire Marshall’s office is sending structural protection resources to the new fire. A 20-person crew and dozer were dispatched from the Grizzly Bear Complex to the fire which is being managed by the State of Washington Department of Natural Resources.
Winds throughout the Complex were variable, reaching 50-60 miles per hour along the northern, highest elevations and calm near Big Hole at 4-5 miles per hour. The wind did not improve smoky conditions at lower elevation valleys and area surrounding Troy, Ore. There were no requests from fire lines for helicopter support today.
Fire weather this week will be “benign” as wetting rain and cooler, humid conditions will prevail. Because the fire lines in the Complex held the fire, evacuation levels will change at 8 a.m. on Sunday, August 30 to include a reduction of Asotin to 0, the area east of Highway 129 in Washington to 1 and the area west of Highway 3 to the Grand Ronde River in Oregon to 1. Additional changes in evacuation levels will be discussed tomorrow.
Post by: MtnMuley on August 30, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
Post by: n_mathews13 on August 30, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 31, 2015, 05:55:43 AM
Rained good in blues todayGood news. I hope it helps the firemen to some degree.
Post by: n_mathews13 on August 31, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
Post by: frazierw on August 31, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
Post by: Mxracer532 on August 31, 2015, 11:08:46 AM
Post by: LittleJohn on August 31, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
Talked to Paul Wik just a few minutes ago. WDFW made the decision official, turn in permit by Friday if you want your points back. It rained about 1/4 in.
does that include the tuccannon ?
Just wondering,
My uncle has a tuc archery tag and has been having a hard time getting ahold of wdfw
Post by: Branden on August 31, 2015, 11:25:30 AM
Good luck to all the other tag holders.
Post by: JamesK. on August 31, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
Talked to Paul Wik just a few minutes ago. WDFW made the decision official, turn in permit by Friday if you want your points back. It rained about 1/4 in.
does that include the tuccannon ?
Just wondering,
My uncle has a tuc archery tag and has been having a hard time getting ahold of wdfw
The guy I have talked to a bunch is named Paul Wik. Super nice and helpful. His phone number is 509-758-3972. Have your try contacting him, hope that helps!
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Post by: dscubame on August 31, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
wildthing@dfw.wa.gov
Dear Hunting Enthusiast:
As of this writing, wildfires continue to threaten federal, tribal, state, and private lands, as well as several Washington communities. We are all concerned for public safety and the loss of life and property, as well as the impact to our natural resources.
As a hunter, you may also be concerned about the status of upcoming hunting seasons. WDFW has no plans to close or delay any general hunting seasons due to fire activity. Hunters should, however, be aware of widespread land access restrictions currently in place throughout the state due to wildfires. Now more than ever, it is important to check the fire and land access situation before setting out on your trip.
Updated information on active wildfires in Washington, including local travel and access restrictions, is available at http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/49/# . Information for several national forest lands across the state is available from the U.S. Forest Service at http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/r6/home/?cid=fsbdev2_026675#washington . For information on WDFW's 33 wildlife areas and 700-plus water access sites, see http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/wildlife_areas/ .
Please bear in mind that landowners determine who has access to their land. Some landowners, including multiple private timberland owners, have closed their lands to access in response to current wildfire activity. At this time, it is too early to know whether landowners will keep their lands closed or reopen lands during the hunting season. Conditions can change rapidly over the next few weeks, so hunters should check periodically for access changes.
In the unlikely event that access to a special permit hunt area is closed due to fire activity, the Department will work with permit holders to restore special permit points in the affected areas. WDFW will notify permit holders if they are eligible and explain how points can be restored. Points will not be restored if hunting opportunity is still available for a permit holder, or if the permit has already been used for hunting in the special permit area this season.
Hunters who wish to hunt on private lands should make sure they have permission to hunt before they go. Check in with landowners regarding access and be sure to leave the area in better condition than when you arrived. For more information, visit the WDFW Private Lands Access website: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/hunting_access/private_lands/ .
In an effort to assist hunters with access information, WDFW has compiled a list of major public landowners, along with contact details, in each region. This information is available at http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/hunting_access/ .
Finally, all of us have to be especially cautious to avoid starting a fire while in the field. A wayward cigarette butt or a truck parked in a field of dry grass can spark yet another wildfire. Please observe current rules in effect on WDFW lands and other areas regarding restrictions on campfires, chainsaws, and motorized equipment (including ATVs).
We encourage you to be safe and wish you the best of luck hunting this fall.
Sincerely,
Wildlife Program
WDFW
Post by: growler on August 31, 2015, 01:29:57 PM
In the big picture not getting to utilize the tag to it's potential is small potatoes compared to people who have lost their homes, structures, etc.. Those folks have real problems and concerns and I hope things work out for them and no other damage to personal property or threat to personal safety occurs.
Post by: coldsteel3d on August 31, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Post by: Elkpiss on September 01, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on September 01, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PENDLETON OR
1216 PM PDT TUE SEP 1 2015
ORZ041-044-049-050-502-503-505>511-WAZ024-026>030-520-521-022200-
EAST COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE OF OREGON-
LOWER COLUMBIA BASIN OF OREGON-GRANDE RONDE VALLEY-WALLOWA COUNTY-
NORTHERN BLUE MOUNTAINS OF OREGON-
SOUTHERN BLUE MOUNTAINS OF OREGON-JOHN DAY BASIN-OCHOCO-
JOHN DAY HIGHLANDS-
FOOTHILLS OF THE NORTHERN BLUE MOUNTAINS OF OREGON-
FOOTHILLS OF THE SOUTHERN BLUE MOUNTAINS OF OREGON-
EAST SLOPES OF THE OREGON CASCADES-NORTH CENTRAL OREGON-
CENTRAL OREGON-EASTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE OF WASHINGTON-
KITTITAS VALLEY-YAKIMA VALLEY-LOWER COLUMBIA BASIN OF WASHINGTON-
FOOTHILLS OF THE BLUE MOUNTAINS OF WASHINGTON-
NORTHWEST BLUE MOUNTAINS OF WASHINGTON-
EAST SLOPES OF THE WASHINGTON CASCADES-SIMCOE HIGHLANDS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ARLINGTON...THE DALLES...BOARDMAN...
HERMISTON...IONE...COVE...ELGIN...LA GRANDE...UNION...
ENTERPRISE...JOSEPH...WALLOWA...MEACHAM...TOLLGATE...LONG CREEK...
NORTH POWDER...UKIAH...DAYVILLE...JOHN DAY...MITCHELL...
MONUMENT...SPRAY...BROTHERS...PAULINA...PRAIRIE CITY...SENECA...
ATHENA...PENDLETON...PILOT ROCK...HEPPNER...CONDON...FOSSIL...
CAMP SHERMAN...LA PINE...SISTERS...SUNRIVER...DUFUR...MAUPIN...
MORO...BEND...MADRAS...PRINEVILLE...REDMOND...WHITE SALMON...
ELLENSBURG...THORP...NACHES...SUNNYSIDE...TOPPENISH...YAKIMA...
CONNELL...PROSSER...TRI-CITIES...DAYTON...WAITSBURG...
WALLA WALLA...SKI BLUEWOOD RESORT...APPLETON...CLE ELUM...
CLIFFDELL...GOLDENDALE...BICKLETON
1216 PM PDT TUE SEP 1 2015
...UNSEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES REST OF THE WEEK...
AN EARLY AUTUMN LIKE WEATHER SYSTEM WILL BE SETTLING OVER THE
REGION MIDWEEK AND CONTINUE INTO THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND. THIS WILL
LEAD TO UNUSUALLY COOL CONDITIONS THROUGH THIS PERIOD WITH HIGH
TEMPERATURES IN THE COLUMBIA BASIN IN THE 60S TO LOWER 70S WHILE
THE MOUNTAINS WILL SEE 50S AND 60S. OVERNIGHT LOW TEMPERATURES
WILL ALSO BE COOL WITH 40S IN THE BASIN AND UPPER 20S AND 30S IN
THE MOUNTAINS.
THE INITIAL COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION ON WEDNESDAY
BRINGING A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION. UNSTABLE CONDITIONS WILL LEAD
TO SOME MORE SHOWERS ON THURSDAY. PERHAPS THE BEST CHANCE FOR A
MORE WIDESPREAD RAIN WOULD COME LATE FRIDAY AND INTO SATURDAY AS
THE HEART OF THE COLD AIR MOVES OVER THE FORECAST AREA. SNOW
LEVELS DURING THIS TIME WILL LOWER TO AROUND 6500 FEET. THIS MEANS
THERE COULD BE A DUSTING OF SNOW IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE
WALLOWA, ELKHORN, STRAWBERRY AND CASCADE MOUNTAINS.
THOSE PLANNING OUTDOOR ADVENTURES SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THE
COOLER CONDITIONS AND POTENTIAL PRECIPITATION.
$$
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 01, 2015, 04:14:57 PM
Dayton tag holders at this moment have no option of having points restored. I was told to make due, despite WDFW rep. stating that 40 percent of the unit is public property and 90 percent of that public property is currently closed or the access into it (FS roads are closed). Should be a real quality hunting opportunity for 7 bull tag holders, general archery deer hunters, grouse hunters, bear hunters etc..that will compete for the 5-10 percent of open or reachable public property. I wish they would reconsider and give us the option of taking a chance on limited public property or mailing in our permit and letting us take our chances in the next lottery. I would rather keep my points and try again next year and the year after and after.......instead of having to settle with in my opinion a very diminished opportunity. Just my personal thoughts and opinions on the matter. In any case I feel like I might puke over the whole thing.
In the big picture not getting to utilize the tag to it's potential is small potatoes compared to people who have lost their homes, structures, etc.. Those folks have real problems and concerns and I hope things work out for them and no other damage to personal property or threat to personal safety occurs.
An area that usually has about half of the archery hunters in it is still open. It's also, arguably the best at times. shoot me a pm if you get in a bind and need somewhere to look. I'm guessing that access will improve during season as well. Imagine if you got to hunt a bunch of bulls that haven't been called at and pressured. Hopefully it turns out good for the Dayton tag holders.
Post by: growler on September 01, 2015, 04:45:25 PM
Dayton tag holders at this moment have no option of having points restored. I was told to make due, despite WDFW rep. stating that 40 percent of the unit is public property and 90 percent of that public property is currently closed or the access into it (FS roads are closed). Should be a real quality hunting opportunity for 7 bull tag holders, general archery deer hunters, grouse hunters, bear hunters etc..that will compete for the 5-10 percent of open or reachable public property. I wish they would reconsider and give us the option of taking a chance on limited public property or mailing in our permit and letting us take our chances in the next lottery. I would rather keep my points and try again next year and the year after and after.......instead of having to settle with in my opinion a very diminished opportunity. Just my personal thoughts and opinions on the matter. In any case I feel like I might puke over the whole thing.
In the big picture not getting to utilize the tag to it's potential is small potatoes compared to people who have lost their homes, structures, etc.. Those folks have real problems and concerns and I hope things work out for them and no other damage to personal property or threat to personal safety occurs.
An area that usually has about half of the archery hunters in it is still open. It's also, arguably the best at times. shoot me a pm if you get in a bind and need somewhere to look. I'm guessing that access will improve during season as well. Imagine if you got to hunt a bunch of bulls that haven't been called at and pressured. Hopefully it turns out good for the Dayton tag holders.
Thanks for the offer. I may have to take you up on it. All the area I had planned on hunting I cannot get to. It seems most of the public land I can't get to. Got cameras up since the 10th that are stranded as well. Just bummed after waiting 16 years, after that long I guess I just want unrestricted access to public ground....Just hate the idea of having to make due with what is left. :bash:
Post by: frazierw on September 03, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
Post by: Roperfive88 on September 05, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 05, 2015, 12:35:40 PM
Oregon side
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 05, 2015, 01:40:15 PM
Post by: tonymoe on September 05, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
Also ran into three Idaho plates with rifles running around Looking for elk!
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 05, 2015, 02:46:51 PM
Post by: frazierw on September 05, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on September 06, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
Post by: Firedogg on September 06, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
Post by: go4steelhd on September 06, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 06, 2015, 08:02:19 PM
Post by: frazierw on September 06, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
Post by: emac on September 06, 2015, 08:49:37 PM
True story, I got snowed on for three hours this morning in lick Creek close to Clearwater guard station.I talked to a guy that works for fish and game tonight. He said the Indians are running around like crazy up there shooting bulls
Also ran into three Idaho plates with rifles running around Looking for elk!
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Post by: trophyhunt on September 06, 2015, 08:56:54 PM
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:, madding!!!True story, I got snowed on for three hours this morning in lick Creek close to Clearwater guard station.I talked to a guy that works for fish and game tonight. He said the Indians are running around lie crazy up there shooting bulls
Also ran into three Idaho plates with rifles running around Looking for elk!
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Post by: nwhunter on September 06, 2015, 09:12:07 PM
Post by: zike on September 06, 2015, 10:33:37 PM
From one of the fire crews.
That's an old burn, looks like part of the school fire.
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 07, 2015, 02:57:51 PM
From one of the fire crews.
That's an old burn, looks like part of the school fire.
I'm pretty sure the pic was of the snow not the burn area.
Post by: coldsteel3d on September 07, 2015, 03:06:26 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 07, 2015, 06:58:48 PM
I spose they want heed the fire closure anymore than they do the supposed tribal hunting boundaries down there. Wouldnt that be something they can have the place to themselves!!!:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: AntlerHound on September 11, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
Post by: frazierw on September 11, 2015, 10:08:35 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on September 11, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on September 29, 2015, 03:39:51 PM
Grizzly Bear Complex continues to see active fire behavior
The Grizzly Bear Complex continues to burn actively in the interior portions of the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness near Melton Creek, Second Creek, Crooked Creek, Monument Ridge, and Grizzly Bear Ridge. Smoke columns could be seen in several areas yesterday as the fire moves through unburned areas within the fire perimeter. All suppression lines along the wilderness boundary have been completed, and are prepared for burnout operations should the fire approach.
The increased fire activity is attributed to continued warm and dry weather conditions over the fire area. Although showers were in the forecast last week, storm clouds, along with any chance for moisture, dissipated before reaching the Blue Mountains. Temperatures remain in the upper 60’s and low 70’s over the fire area and the relative humidity has dipped into the low teens during the afternoon over the last few days, with poor humidity recovery overnight.
Work continues to occur in three separate divisions on the fire: 1) south end along the 62 Rd.; 2) north side near the 46/64 Rd. junction; and 3) west of the 40/4039 road junction. The fire’s edge, adjacent to forest roads in each of the divisions, is secure and remains in patrol status with adequate resources available to respond if fire behavior increases. Activities on the south side include: suppression of hotspots and flare-ups still occurring in the Big Hole area and grading and improving the 64 Rd.
On the north side, work includes monitoring fire activity in the Melton Creek, Second Creek and Crooked Creek drainages and along Monument and Grizzly Bear Ridges. Structure protection remains in the Slick Ear and Turkey Tail cabins and Godman guard station areas. Suppression repair activities, log processing and pile chipping work was recently completed on the north side of the fire, resulting in the release of additional heavy equipment resources.
The closure order issued on September 18, 2015 remains in place; closing for entry the area (in general terms): north of Forest Service Road (FSR) 62 and the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness Area east of Sawtooth Trail and south of TeePee Trail. See the Closure Order on the Forest website for more specific closure locations: http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/umatilla/alerts-notices/…
Post by: gaddy on September 29, 2015, 03:44:57 PM
Post by: HoopsNHorns on September 29, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Post by: packerfan66 on September 29, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
Post by: DaleVR on September 29, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 29, 2015, 08:37:29 PM
I'll be down there in 2 days for the muzzy season. Can't wait!
Wenaha east or west? I heard there's 800 acres of land in the east open to hunting and that's it. Muzzy permit holders have been contacted for points refund.
Post by: willapawapiti on September 29, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
Post by: packerfan66 on September 30, 2015, 07:13:35 AM
Which unit packerfan? A friend of mine has the East wenaha muzzy tag and has been contacted by F&G typical to the archery guys in that unit about returning the tag for points.
I'll be down there in 2 days for the muzzy season. Can't wait!
Wenaha east or west? I heard there's 800 acres of land in the east open to hunting and that's it. Muzzy permit holders have been contacted for points refund.
No tag holder this year :bash:. Hunting the elusive spike in lick creek and probably mountain view. So actually northeast of the fire
Post by: Branden on September 30, 2015, 07:17:53 AM
My family has the Godman Guard Station rented for the last 5 days of deer season, up to the night of 27th. We've been hunting the West Wenaha for a few years now, looks like most of our "hotspots" are true "hotspots" and literally burnt up and CLOSED. :( Been trying to gleen as much info from calls to the USFS (not much help), Inciweb & fellow members here on HuntWA. I'm leaning toward not going this year, even if they open it up, figuring the deer situation up top might be a little messed up. How do the deer handle the increased activity? Do they displace far? Any local opinions willing to help out this wetsider with his decision?
I didn't look into the West Wenaha but the East Wenaha that I looked into wasn't burned very much. There were patches that were crispy but it wouldn't stop me from hunting it if it was open. Unless you are hunting on the road or trail I doubt there was much activity in the actual wilderness.
Post by: willapawapiti on September 30, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
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Post by: JJB11B on September 30, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on September 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on September 30, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
Post by: willapawapiti on September 30, 2015, 07:43:21 PM
I was a medic on that fire for 2 weeks so I got to do a lot of driving and sitting. There was tons of wildlife everyday. Elk, deer, bear. With all the traffic on the roads I would think they would all be hiding. I would say if they open the roads and you planned on hunting up there this year. I would still go.
Good info - Thanks :tup:
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on October 05, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
Grizzly Bear Complex Fires in Patrol and Monitor Status
The Grizzly Bear Complex fires are currently in patrol and monitor status. Two fires within the Grizzly Bear Complex, the Butte Creek Fire and Bear Ridge Fire, continue to burn actively within the interior and along the uncontrolled fire perimeter within the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness. Increased fire activity, including surface burning on the forest floor and isolated tree torching, is attributed to continued unseasonably warm and dry weather conditions along with extremely dry fuels in the fire area.
The areas currently exhibiting the most fire activity are within the Melton Creek, Second Creek, Cougar Creek, Crooked Creek drainages, and on the Grizzly Bear and Monument Ridges. All indirect control lines along FS Roads 46, 64, 300 and 4608 adjacent to the Wilderness boundary have been completed and are prepared for burnout operations should the fire threaten to cross over the wilderness boundary.
Additional smoke may be visible in the Slick Ear area along the FS Road 300. Firefighters have prepared for a small burn-out operation to reduce ground fuels in and around the Slick Ear Cabins. This operation will mitigate the fuels around these structures by creating defensible space and help reduce the current and future threat to these cabins.
AREA CLOSURE:
The current Area Closure, issued on September 18, 2015, remains in effect within portions of the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness and was implemented due to the severe conditions. The closure provides for public safety and protection from hazards associated with an active fire and will remain in effect until the fire area receives a significant amount of moisture. . Members of the public are advised to avoid the area. Forest Officials will review Area Closure needs as fire activity diminishes to an acceptable level or until the fire area receives a season ending weather event.
The area closure provides limited access to portions of the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness where contingency or suppression efforts have been completed. Areas within the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness that remain closed to public entry include: South and east of Forest Trail #3113 (Misery Trail), East of Forest Trail 3256 (Sawtooth Ridge Trail) and Forest Trail 3241 (Elk Flat Trail). The closure area also includes non-wilderness National Forest lands north of Forest Road 62 from Elk Flats Trailhead to the Forest boundary near Troy, Oregon. (A full description of the area closure is provided at the end of this news release.) See the Closure Order on the Forest website for more specific closure locations and information: http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/umatilla/alerts-notices/…
Grizzly Bear Complex InciWeb site: http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4511/
Forest Website: www.fs.usda.gov/umatilla/
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 05, 2015, 04:42:44 PM
THERE ARE NO ELK IN THE BLUES!!!
Year in and year out people!!!!!!! :yeah:
Post by: frazierw on October 06, 2015, 12:51:57 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on October 16, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
The area closure associated with the Grizzly Bear Complex wildfire has been lifted.
In place of the closure, Umatilla National Forest officials have implemented 5 road closures on the south side of the Wenaha-Tucannon Wilderness.
You can check the Forest website at www.fs.usda.gov/umatilla/ for more details and a map.
Foot and horse traffic will be allowed on the closed roads.