Post by: Humptulips on August 28, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
I will say as of the 26th the Fish & Wildlife Commission of New Mexico approved trapping as a legal method of take for cougar on all private lands and State trust lands in New Mexico.
Texas is the only other State where it is legal to trap cougar.
Post by: Trapper John on August 28, 2015, 11:04:57 PM
I'd like to post an article but every journalist must be an anti that is writing about it. Seen several lately and they all have those words cruel, inhumane, extreme and stuff like predators self regulate and the horrorr of a break down of the social order of cougar hierarchy. BS like that.
I will say as of the 26th the Fish & Wildlife Commission of New Mexico approved trapping as a legal method of take for cougar on all private lands and State trust lands in New Mexico.
Texas is the only other State where it is legal to trap cougar.
I feel sorry for those anti people. Ummmm ............. Not :brew: :chuckle:
I think I need to go to New Mexico or Texas this coming trapping season. Trapping a lion is on my bucket list.
JC :hello:
Post by: Houndhunter on August 29, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 29, 2015, 10:19:44 AM
They would be super easy to trap. I suspect anyone there that pits any effort at all into cougar trapping will catch one. Unfortunately it is more likely to be a female or subadult than it is a mature Tom.
Post by: Dan-o on August 29, 2015, 10:22:05 AM
Would trapping a cougar be extremely difficult?
It seems like you could trap a mighty long time without getting a cougar.
Do guys actually successfully trap cougars?
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 29, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
Post by: Dan-o on August 29, 2015, 11:10:03 AM
For some reason, in my mind, I just thought that given how dispersed they are and (I thought) they only eat what they kill that it would be hard.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 29, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
Post by: Humptulips on August 29, 2015, 10:35:05 PM
Thanks for that.
For some reason, in my mind, I just thought that given how dispersed they are and (I thought) they only eat what they kill that it would be hard.
Do not for one minute think cougars only eat what they kill. They will readily take carrion. I have then stealing bait out of my bobcat traps all the time.
I don't like it... I'm glad it's in NM and not Idaho where I run hounds.The only reason one would be more likely to catch a female or a subadult is because there are more of them. Most large cougar caught in footholds are self released because trappers are using too small of a trap.
They would be super easy to trap. I suspect anyone there that pits any effort at all into cougar trapping will catch one. Unfortunately it is more likely to be a female or subadult than it is a mature Tom.
By the way the NM Houndsmans Association was in favor of this change in law.
Hang together or hang separately.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 30, 2015, 07:22:27 AM
It's strange that the houndsmen would be in favor or this. Other than just trying to be an ally, there is hardly a biological reason. Or they figure it will be such a small take that its insignificant.
If a lion doesn't 'self release' it can get a little wild....
Post by: Humptulips on August 30, 2015, 09:46:03 AM
I agree, proportionately your odds of catching a subadult or female are much higher, becuese they make a much bigger cross section of the population.
It's strange that the houndsmen would be in favor or this. Other than just trying to be an ally, there is hardly a biological reason. Or they figure it will be such a small take that its insignificant.
If a lion doesn't 'self release' it can get a little wild....
It was tied together with increased bear quotas. Year a round season and a 4/year limit on cougar in NM. There will still be no cougar trapping on Federal land and that makes up a lot of NM so maybe houndmen didn't feel too pinched to share.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 30, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
Post by: UrbanTrapper on September 01, 2015, 05:49:32 PM
Post by: Humptulips on September 01, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
Snares work good too.
Post by: Halo on September 01, 2015, 06:46:29 PM
Post by: Humptulips on September 01, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 02, 2015, 06:24:58 AM
Post by: Humptulips on September 03, 2015, 10:41:03 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 04, 2015, 04:35:34 AM
Post by: Humptulips on September 04, 2015, 10:08:10 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 04, 2015, 10:14:25 AM
Leg snares or kill snares? I hope people know what they're doing and don't kill too many dogs...For the public lands this might be a valid concern. For the private, I would say let the trappers use any means they want--the owner can regulate as necessary.
Post by: jasnt on September 04, 2015, 10:27:25 AM
I'm not so sure about that. I do know it would not take a spring snare to dispatch a cat. Cats die easy in a snare. I'm not sure what the snaring regulations are in NM but it would be pretty easy to snare cougar and keep from harming domestic or hunting dogs.i agree with Bruce, no need for a power snare for cats. You can easily set up for entangle.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 04, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
I spring snares are pretty nasty. I had never worked with one until last winter. They are pretty serious.
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