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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: wonder on September 23, 2015, 08:52:35 AM

Title: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: wonder on September 23, 2015, 08:52:35 AM: Does anyone know how Bull Elk react when wolves are in the neighborhood? Last year I heard many Elk bugling in the Rimrock Unit, this year we got a later chance to catch the rut yet heard zero Elk. Found out that wolves are now actively hunting in that GMU now. Maybe they were there last year but I found a whole lot more sign last year? Just a curiosity question
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 23, 2015, 09:12:54 AM: Bugle = dinner bell
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: timberfaller on September 23, 2015, 09:15:18 AM: :yeah: Bugle at your own risk!
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: Ccortez on September 23, 2015, 09:23:36 AM: There's no wolves in this state just big coyotes :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: jason stevens on September 23, 2015, 09:40:55 AM: After our experience this weekend I would highly recomend packing a side arm (for protection).if there in the area and u call u could be way to close to the big coyote and half to head back to the truck in a hurry if u don't want a confrentation.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: wannabhntr on September 23, 2015, 09:54:13 AM: Quote from: jason stevens on September 23, 2015, 09:40:55 AM
After our experience this weekend I would highly recomend packing a side arm (for protection).if there in the area and u call u could be way to close to the big coyote and half to head back to the truck in a hurry if u don't want a confrentation.
Story?
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: buglebrush on September 23, 2015, 10:18:06 AM: I mentioned this in another thread, but I had a bull going hot and heavy last week. At the first howl he completely shut up for the rest of the day. Every time we bugled the wolves would howl all around us. We both had sidearms, but it was still pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: westside Elkhunter on September 23, 2015, 10:54:45 AM: Where both encounters in the Rimrock ?
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: bracer40 on September 23, 2015, 11:00:58 AM: We were up in the same unit all last week and heard multiple Bulls bugling on several mornings. No bull tags so we just enjoyed the concert. We were also the only ones in our basin.
As for sidearms, just more unnecessary weight (to me) to haul up the mountain.

I've been walking up and back through the dark for a number of years and haven't felt the need to carry the extra weight. Maybe I'm not man enough?

Though I did feel a little twitchy a couple of times as I lay on the ground at my treestand waiting for 5:45 to arrive so I could climb up and wait the next 30-45 mins til shooting light.

Reminds of the tools we met in the Cowiche late hunt last year that were convinced wolves were running the elk. Had even seen their tracks in the road! Yea, we saw those tracks too. Made by the dogs that were running alongside the kids being towed on sleds behind the truck. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: coachcw on September 23, 2015, 11:56:21 AM: when wolves are around elk get quiet and really stick to the steep slopes
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:02:43 PM: Quote from: wannabhntr on September 23, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: jason stevens on September 23, 2015, 09:40:55 AM
After our experience this weekend I would highly recomend packing a side arm (for protection).if there in the area and u call u could be way to close to the big coyote and half to head back to the truck in a hurry if u don't want a confrentation.
Story?
we were hunting 328 in a steep thick draw and I decided to cow call, big mistake.immediatly got howls back way to close and more then one.proceeded back toward the truck and after a while called again, they were closer. So we shut up and straight back to the truck.daughter with me equals go to different area.never saw them but tracks and howls are close enough for me.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: cbond3318 on September 24, 2015, 02:05:41 PM: Quote from: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:02:43 PM
Quote from: wannabhntr on September 23, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: jason stevens on September 23, 2015, 09:40:55 AM
After our experience this weekend I would highly recomend packing a side arm (for protection).if there in the area and u call u could be way to close to the big coyote and half to head back to the truck in a hurry if u don't want a confrentation.
Story?
we were hunting 328 in a steep thick draw and I decided to cow call, big mistake.immediatly got howls back way to close and more then one.proceeded back toward the truck and after a while called again, they were closer. So we shut up and straight back to the truck.daughter with me equals go to different area.never saw them but tracks and howls are close enough for me.

Were you hunting the western side of the unit? I hunt the eastern portion of the unit and have never heard or seen sign of wolves in there. Have a buddy who swore he saw one years back but we chalked it up to the JD. :dunno:
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:08:02 PM: We were between elk meadows and coleman canyon about midway.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: cbond3318 on September 24, 2015, 02:23:48 PM: Quote from: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
We were between elk meadows and coleman canyon about midway.

Gotcha, well for my sake I hope the stay over there. :sry:
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:33:49 PM: Me to my daughter has the youth cow tag and I really want her to get her first elk
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: cbond3318 on September 24, 2015, 02:41:40 PM: Quote from: jason stevens on September 24, 2015, 02:33:49 PM
Me to my daughter has the youth cow tag and I really want her to get her first elk

PM sent.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: jdb on September 24, 2015, 07:10:23 PM: I'd like to see proof of rimrock wolves
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: wonder on September 25, 2015, 04:38:20 PM: Head up the 1201 before it takes off on the 1202 and maybe you might run into them? All I saw that was fresh this year was a pee spot. If someone were to set up a trail cam I'm betting that results would come back positive if you could leave it up there for a week or so?
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 25, 2015, 05:45:31 PM: I have had to elk bugling while wolves howl and I have had them get quiet until the wolves move along. Generally wolves are moving quite a bit and the elk seem to act fairly normal once they quiet down. I would keep hunting.... Wolves are around because the elk are there
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: PA BEN on September 25, 2015, 05:51:49 PM: A guy in the 49 unit called in 3 wolves while bugling from a treestand, he got some good cell phone pictures. I work with a guy who knows him, he trying to get me pictures to post here.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 25, 2015, 06:02:42 PM: I have listened to elk and wolves in the same canyon at the same time. And like said above the wolves keep moving the elk stay put untill the wolves find them. They seemed spoked the day the wolves moved in but most elk stayed put and still sounding off the next day.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: PA BEN on September 26, 2015, 07:17:57 AM: Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 25, 2015, 06:02:42 PM
I have listened to elk and wolves in the same canyon at the same time. And like said above the wolves keep moving the elk stay put untill the wolves find them. They seemed spoked the day the wolves moved in but most elk stayed put and still sounding off the next day.
Must be elk that aren't used to wolves yet and don't know what they can do. The elk in the NE corner don't bugle much at all these days because the wolves have been around for a while.
Title: Re: Bugling when wolves are present
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 26, 2015, 07:20:13 AM: these wolves have been around a while. Just not as long as further north. So your probably right PA. They'll learn soon.