Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
Any thoughts? :dunno:
Post by: Odell on October 09, 2015, 12:31:51 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 09, 2015, 12:41:41 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 12:54:23 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 12:55:42 PM
Other than your odds of being caught, there is no difference. You would be trespassing regardless of which direction you accessed the private land from.
The land discussed is public land surrounded by private and the river.
Post by: CP on October 09, 2015, 12:56:05 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
Post by: whitey on October 09, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
I guess the broad clarification for me is, does the railroad consider it trespassing to cross, walk on, sit and fish etc... along their embankment ? I just don't see how the railroad can hem up 100's miles of shoreline and consider it trespassing to be on it....$10,000.00 fine and up to one year in jail is what they told me when I went to cross the un signaled track to swim my dog.
I said Thanks and left. They have gotten serious about it.
On that note! access via the river to hunt. They will have a tough time getting to you and an even tougher time trying to figure out if indeed you did even cross the tracks
Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 09, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Yes, but you indicated that you must cross private land to get to the public land. That would be trespass.Other than your odds of being caught, there is no difference. You would be trespassing regardless of which direction you accessed the private land from.
The land discussed is public land surrounded by private and the river.
Post by: cbond3318 on October 09, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
Yes, but you indicated that you must cross private land to get to the public land. That would be trespass.Other than your odds of being caught, there is no difference. You would be trespassing regardless of which direction you accessed the private land from.
The land discussed is public land surrounded by private and the river.
Gotchya.. :tup:
Post by: Bob33 on October 09, 2015, 01:26:26 PM
Never trespass or cross tracks illegally. Railroad tracks are private property, not public trails. It's illegal and dangerous to walk on or near tracks unless you're using a designated crossing. It's also illegal and extremely dangerous (and DUMB) to drive around closed crossing gates or to ignore flashing warning lights. Trains travel in both directions on all tracks—so it's impossible to predict which direction a train will approach from.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 09, 2015, 01:28:18 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 09, 2015, 01:29:30 PM
Post by: wreckerman5288 on October 09, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
Post by: Odell on October 09, 2015, 02:35:19 PM
Sure wish they would in force this with all the wind surfers illeagly crossing tracks to access the Columbia River.
Why? I wish they would leave us alone. If someone has to cross 10ft of railroad to access the columbia river, who cares?
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 09, 2015, 02:39:47 PM
Sure wish they would in force this with all the wind surfers illeagly crossing tracks to access the Columbia River.
Why? I wish they would leave us alone. If someone has to cross 10ft of railroad to access the columbia river, who cares?
The fact that it is trespassing...... Then there is my own agenda to keep the HWY clear of Greenie Cars. :chuckle: There is plenty of places to safely park and access the river without trespass.
Post by: gaddy on October 09, 2015, 02:45:40 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on October 09, 2015, 03:38:31 PM
Sure wish they would in force this with all the wind surfers illeagly crossing tracks to access the Columbia River.
Why? I wish they would leave us alone. If someone has to cross 10ft of railroad to access the columbia river, who cares?
Your only crossing a few feet of Railroad track. But several feet of railroad right of way. Probably 150 ft. or more. The people that care are the families of people that lose loved ones to being hit by a train. And the railroads that lose tons of revenue because of the time the tracks are shutdown for the investigation. I think I read that for a mainline it loses a million dollars an hour for every hour the tracks are shutdown. That was several years ago. I worked for the railroad for almost 20 years. They can be eerily quiet as the move down the rails. Just because you cant see or hear a train. Doesn't mean it isn't coming!
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on October 10, 2015, 02:43:10 AM
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Rail/TrainSafety.htmit may be impossible but I can usually stand at a railroad track and rule out 358 degrees of direction a train will come from. Seriously we are talking about crossing a train track here, really almost the same as crossing a street which people manage to do safely every day in this country, look both ways if it's clear you go
Never trespass or cross tracks illegally. Railroad tracks are private property, not public trails. It's illegal and dangerous to walk on or near tracks unless you're using a designated crossing. It's also illegal and extremely dangerous (and DUMB) to drive around closed crossing gates or to ignore flashing warning lights. Trains travel in both directions on all tracks—so it's impossible to predict which direction a train will approach from.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 10, 2015, 04:52:15 AM
I'd do it without reservation....
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 10, 2015, 06:44:44 AM
Post by: shootnrun on October 10, 2015, 07:28:22 AM
I see the point in the ownership of these tracks, but the thought of "trespassing" for walking across a set of tracks along the Columbia or Snake that may be occupied by a train for minutes out of a day seems assenine.
Post by: Bob33 on October 10, 2015, 07:32:30 AM
Post by: sliverthrower on October 10, 2015, 08:07:57 AM
Post by: Turner89 on October 10, 2015, 09:09:08 AM
How thousand's of people cross RR tracks in Seattle everyday , ALOT. How many people cross RR tracks in rural America, ALOT.:yeah: ive lived around tracks all my life. Crossed them to hit hunting and fishing spots. Ill take the chance. I'm an outlaw :chuckle:
I'd do it without reservation....
Post by: heronblu on October 10, 2015, 09:29:13 AM
Post by: Seabass on October 10, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
Those that cannot see past the "illegal" aspect are those that make sure they rock back when stopping at every stop sign, mash the brakes at every light that has just turned yellow, and make sure their blinker is on until they have completed every turn.It seems assenine because IT IS ASSENINE!
I see the point in the ownership of these tracks, but the thought of "trespassing" for walking across a set of tracks along the Columbia or Snake that may be occupied by a train for minutes out of a day seems assenine.
Post by: bobcat on October 10, 2015, 10:03:23 AM
:twocents:
Post by: bracer40 on October 12, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
Yes, it may be illegal to walk across railroad tracks, but so is driving 56mph when the speed limit is 55.
:twocents:
It's a ticket able offense to hold up faster traffic in the left lane also. You think that faster traffic is holding steady @60 mph?!? Nobody cares if you're doing the speed limit. Do it the right lane. :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on October 12, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Yes, it may be illegal to walk across railroad tracks, but so is driving 56mph when the speed limit is 55.
:twocents:
It's a ticket able offense to hold up faster traffic in the left lane also. You think that faster traffic is holding steady @60 mph?!? Nobody cares if you're doing the speed limit. Do it the right lane. :chuckle:
:dunno:
Apparently you didn't get the point I was trying to make with my post. This thread is about walking across railroad tracks.
Post by: westsidehntr on October 12, 2015, 11:03:40 AM