Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 19, 2015, 08:34:22 PM
Needless to say I feel bad that I did not get her a deer but she had a good time. She only got this weekend to hunt due to School and her modeling and sports.
Oh, I almost forgot. I drove to the big center area of the peoperty to see what the parking lot looked like. Guess I wont waste my time going there anymore.
Post by: big wood on October 19, 2015, 09:09:26 PM
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Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 20, 2015, 07:05:45 AM
That looks like Rock Creek. My last time modern firearm hunting was at Rock Creek; it scared the cap out me. Sorry that you experienced such over crowding. Good luck.
That's where we were. Was better when no one knew it was there.
Post by: jrebel on October 20, 2015, 07:19:14 AM
That looks like Rock Creek. My last time modern firearm hunting was at Rock Creek; it scared the cap out me. Sorry that you experienced such over crowding. Good luck.
That's where we were. Was better when no one knew it was there.
Hunted there the first 3 years it was open and took bucks every year. The 4th year was a zoo so I never went back. It has continued to be a zoo, which is weird.....usually these places become unpopular after a few years of heavy use, then they become huntable again. NOT THIS PLACE.
Post by: 2MANY on October 20, 2015, 07:27:22 AM
This!!!!!!!!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 20, 2015, 08:21:14 AM
Once an area is a good place for camping, the quality of the hunting doesn't always dictate the crowds. Lots of big camps still set up each year on the westside during mod elk--same areas same parking configurations. I went visiting to one that looked like a sales lot for RV World and figured with all the old guys there, they would have some good stories and tips. Turned out the camp only took one elk forty years before when spikes were legal and the area had huge clear cuts. Since replant only the precommercial thin was done, now it is jungle and the forest circus decommed probably half the roads. But still hunt it like it is cuts. Super nice people that like camping with guns and will shoot an elk if one pops out, but mostly cooking, playing cards and reliving old memories.That looks like Rock Creek. My last time modern firearm hunting was at Rock Creek; it scared the cap out me. Sorry that you experienced such over crowding. Good luck.
That's where we were. Was better when no one knew it was there.
Hunted there the first 3 years it was open and took bucks every year. The 4th year was a zoo so I never went back. It has continued to be a zoo, which is weird.....usually these places become unpopular after a few years of heavy use, then they become huntable again. NOT THIS PLACE.
Post by: jjhunter on October 20, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
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Post by: moocher97 on October 20, 2015, 06:14:28 PM
I feel ya on rifle hunting public land. Its a joke. Why I'm doing archery.
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Post by: Stickerbush on October 20, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 20, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 20, 2015, 07:44:06 PM
The WDFW needs to better manage game, bobcat.
Yes they do, and that's why I said mule deer should be permit only. They have no control over how many people hunt each GMU. I don't consider that management. They just sell as many tags as people will buy and hope for the best.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 20, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
The WDFW needs to better manage game, bobcat.
Yes they do, and that's why I said mule deer should be permit only. They have no control over how many people hunt each GMU. I don't consider that management. They just sell as many tags as people will buy and hope for the best.
We both know it's a pure money makes for the WDFW. They need to have a late muzzleloader season in the 101 and maybe a short rifle season. We have tons of mule deer here.
Post by: Thehowler on October 20, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 20, 2015, 08:40:59 PM
welcome to the eastside swarm. western wa at its finest. its pathetic.Believe it or not, it's not the really bad ones that are usually headed over there. They stay here and do things that make the others want to go your way. :chuckle:
Post by: 2labs on October 20, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
Love to now where the mule deer are. I only ever find whitetail. :dunno:
Turn left sooner! :dunno:
Post by: Thehowler on October 20, 2015, 08:52:57 PM
Post by: jkthomps on October 20, 2015, 09:07:45 PM
aaaand that's why I quit rifle hunting....X2
Post by: LDennis24 on October 21, 2015, 11:50:40 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 21, 2015, 12:05:32 PM
This ranch has been hit so hard for the last 5+ yrs that it's not even worth looking at. I live 3 miles away from it and people drive by headed that way all week long and half end up driving back by 10 mins later cuz they about puked when they see how many rig's there are. Public land is public land but everytime they develope an area and allow parking and RV's it becomes a zoo. Try staying around the elevator next time. The alfalfa is public land and just across the creek on the left at the gate is public land too. Goes back about 3 miles and has some decent bucks on the farthest Northeast end where they can funnel into McCall's alfalfa at night. Also try the BLM ground North East of there in the rock's. For some reason no one hardly ever walks back past the rock column's. Also some area's with dandy bucks along 23 that are "hunt by reservation". Hope I helped a little forin the future. :tup:Are you referring about the army Corp property?
If so it was nuts as well.
Unless I am missing a pocket you are referring to
Post by: Seabass on October 21, 2015, 12:15:05 PM
Post by: kellama2001 on October 22, 2015, 10:43:38 AM
aaaand that's why I quit rifle hunting....X2
X3!
Post by: 2MANY on October 22, 2015, 10:52:16 AM
aaaand that's why I quit rifle hunting....X2
And that's why I have always owned horses and mules.
Glad to hear these places draw all the people.
I heard there is an abundance of huge bucks that are easy to kill there as well. LOL.
Didn't the RMEF have something to do with securing the Rock Creek area in WA?
Post by: jjhunter on October 22, 2015, 11:09:21 AM
That's why I switched to targeting whitetail.
Post by: bigtex on October 22, 2015, 03:17:40 PM
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 22, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
We can also blame this on the internet. Anyone can sit at home i their pajamas and look for "new" public land they haven't been to before with assessors maps online, online agency maps, and now the OnXmaps. Its a negative side effect to a good thingDefinitely, has affected pretty much everything.
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Post by: 2MANY on October 22, 2015, 03:25:38 PM
Post by: jkthomps on October 22, 2015, 06:40:12 PM
Is that an invite to start hunting with you with horses and mules? If so, I am in lolaaaand that's why I quit rifle hunting....X2
And that's why I have always owned horses and mules.
Glad to hear these places draw all the people.
I heard there is an abundance of huge bucks that are easy to kill there as well. LOL.
Didn't the RMEF have something to do with securing the Rock Creek area in WA?
Post by: Stickerbush on October 22, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
We can also blame this on the internet. Anyone can sit at home i their pajamas and look for "new" public land they haven't been to before with assessors maps online, online agency maps, and now the OnXmaps. Its a negative side effect to a good thing
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True that. Blessing and a curse.
Post by: Curly on October 22, 2015, 07:35:00 PM
We can also blame this on the internet. Anyone can sit at home i their pajamas and look for "new" public land they haven't been to before with assessors maps online, online agency maps, and now the OnXmaps. Its a negative side effect to a good thingAlso can blame message boards.
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Post by: 2MANY on October 23, 2015, 09:13:32 AM
Is that an invite to start hunting with you with horses and mules? If so, I am in lolaaaand that's why I quit rifle hunting....X2
And that's why I have always owned horses and mules.
Glad to hear these places draw all the people.
I heard there is an abundance of huge bucks that are easy to kill there as well. LOL.
Didn't the RMEF have something to do with securing the Rock Creek area in WA?
Personally I would like to see every road locked at the asphalt.
There are 2MANY people hunting 2FEW acres of real estate these days.
Post by: Bigshooter on October 23, 2015, 04:11:30 PM
The WDFW needs to better manage game, bobcat.
Yes they do, and that's why I said mule deer should be permit only. They have no control over how many people hunt each GMU. I don't consider that management. They just sell as many tags as people will buy and hope for the best.
We both know it's a pure money makes for the WDFW. They need to have a late muzzleloader season in the 101 and maybe a short rifle season. We have tons of mule deer here.
First you say that they need to be managed better then you say we have tons of mule deer.
I agree with bobcat all mule deer hunting should be by permit only.
Post by: razzanof on October 23, 2015, 10:28:26 PM
Post by: asmith on October 24, 2015, 07:53:52 AM
This is why mule deer hunting needs to be by permit only. It's ridiculous that we still have an unlimited number of over-the-counter deer tags in a state with a high population of people and relatively low numbers of mule deer.
Why stop there? Make all deer hunting permit only. That way you can only hunt every 3-5 years. Just take a look at Nevada deer hunting. Everything is a draw. Sure, it does make for some really nice deer. But you only get to hunt every few years. I lived there for 4 years and was finally drawn the year I moved up here. So I never did get to deer hunt. The better option is too limit the amount of tags sold to each area. Then at least if an area you want to hunt is sold out, you can always get a tag for a different area.
I would rather be able to go hunting in an over populated hunting area, then not hunt at all!! Its always about more than just killing a deer. Its about getting out with friends and family and enjoying the outdoors.
Post by: kentrek on October 24, 2015, 08:09:26 AM
If the deer/elk need to be managed I'd vote for an idaho elk zone system...have zones that have "x" amount of tags...first come first serve
We will lose are rights to hunt if we eliminate the hunters
Post by: JLS on October 24, 2015, 08:28:14 AM
I don't think a lot of people realize the decline in young adult hunters...18-25 year olds...i bet I have nearly 15 pluss buddies that have given up on hunting in this state because of the current restrictions...permit only will just drive the hunter numbers down even further
Agreed.
Those of you wanting to eliminate opportunity better be asking yourself the honest question of "why"? Just because the Escure Ranch is a rat race during deer season doesn't mean we should be eliminating opportunity. What would be the point of going to permit only? To grow bigger deer? Why? There are big deer in general hunt units, on public land in Washington. Go find them.
If anything, we should be actively seeking out ways to create more opportunity.