Post by: TechJeff on October 20, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 20, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Post by: h20hunter on October 20, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
Do you reload? If so and you are thinking the -06 or even a .270....you can load up rounds pretty dang easy with a rock chucker or even look into some low recoil ammo that is factory made.
Post by: bobcat on October 20, 2015, 03:05:54 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 20, 2015, 03:09:37 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 20, 2015, 03:10:30 PM
Post by: WAnoob on October 20, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 20, 2015, 03:27:19 PM
Unless I go for a rhino or elephant hunt I don't see myself ever owning magnum round shooting rifle. :twocents:
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 20, 2015, 03:29:27 PM
Post by: Bofire on October 20, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
Carl
Post by: lamrith on October 20, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
Bad back is a bugger and those that have not dealt with it may not realize just how little it takes for it to go out. 308 is a mellow recoil for the larger calibers, but still produces a shove that can tweak things.
Post by: mikeybuck on October 20, 2015, 03:37:21 PM
Post by: 12Gauge on October 20, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
Sometimes these back problems can be very devastating, disabling. Even sneezing or coughing hurts like there is no tomorrow.
I use to shoot 7mm mag, 338 mag, now I am down to 7x57, 6.5x55, 308 win. there are others you can choose from maybe 7mm-08, 260.
You can try the Winchester 1 oz. sabot slugs that are 1325 FPS, if you have a rifled barrel for your shotgun.
Post by: Griiz on October 20, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
Good Luck
Post by: ndcasla on October 20, 2015, 05:15:21 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 20, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
Post by: BullMagnet76 on October 20, 2015, 05:30:42 PM
6.5 Creedmoor.
:yeah:
Post by: Blacklab on October 21, 2015, 02:42:53 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 21, 2015, 02:52:52 PM
7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
Post by: RadSav on October 21, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
I will vote with the Pianoman, 308 Semi Auto. Be it "ar10" or old school.
Problem with my back before surgery was that gun carry weight was worse on the back than recoil was. But then lightweight rifles were worse on recoil. Light rifle in 270, 7-08 or 260 might have to get some looks from me if I was that bad again.
Post by: WAnoob on October 21, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 21, 2015, 04:11:51 PM
Post by: thinkingman on October 21, 2015, 05:31:05 PM
7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
+2
Forget the brake.
Don't add hearing damage to a bad back.
Post by: lamrith on October 21, 2015, 05:50:42 PM
There are brakes out there that do not punish shooter or bystanders, and if it saves his back it is worth trying.7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
+2
Forget the brake.
Don't add hearing damage to a bad back.
Here is one from a local company that works well.
http://killer-innovations.com/?page_id=319
Post by: fly-by on October 21, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
I have >1k rounds through an AR-10 in .260 and don't anticipate any recoil whatsoever when shooting 100-120 grain bullets.
To me, blast is more noticeable than recoil with these cartridges.
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on October 21, 2015, 09:01:29 PM
Post by: RadSav on October 21, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
Post by: runamuk on October 21, 2015, 09:45:50 PM
+27mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
I wont shoot mine right now due to a shoulder injury but the recoil is very minimal. The only back ache comes from lugging my heavy rifle around. Everyone that shoots my rifle kinda develops feelings for it :chuckle:
Post by: jrebel on October 21, 2015, 10:04:16 PM
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 21, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
Post by: coachcw on October 22, 2015, 06:11:02 AM
Post by: kukusya on October 22, 2015, 06:16:02 AM
7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.+1 for 7-08
Carl
Post by: headshot5 on October 22, 2015, 06:30:56 AM
Post by: Gobble on October 22, 2015, 06:36:49 AM
Post by: splitshot on October 22, 2015, 06:40:54 AM
Post by: C-Money on October 22, 2015, 07:01:48 AM
Post by: TechJeff on October 22, 2015, 07:40:26 AM
Post by: coachcw on October 22, 2015, 08:06:41 AM
Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. I'm going to pick up a Ruger American in 7mm-08 Rem after work today. It's a cartridge I wouldn't have even looked at prior to this thread so I really appreciate it. Now I can trash my back dragging a big buck 300 yds to the truck instead of while shooting it. :IBCOOL::tup: good glass too
Post by: thinkingman on October 22, 2015, 08:35:18 AM
I don't see any evidence it causes less hearing damage than other brakes, plus all the 'reviews' I could find talked about 'how cool it looked!'.There are brakes out there that do not punish shooter or bystanders, and if it saves his back it is worth trying.7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
+2
Forget the brake.
Don't add hearing damage to a bad back.
Here is one from a local company that works well.
http://killer-innovations.com/?page_id=319
I'm learning that most brakes are bought for looks, not performance.
Again, hearing loss is permanent.
Post by: bobcat on October 22, 2015, 08:42:35 AM
Post by: TechJeff on October 22, 2015, 08:49:31 AM
The 7/08 is a good choice but just remember, the Ruger American is a light rifle and with certain ammo the recoil can still be fairly substantial. Hint: don't try the Hornady Superformance with 139 grain SST bullet. :o
The plan is also to pack some fishing weights and packing peanuts in the the stock. Based on what I've seen online the American just has styrofoam in there so it should be easy to replace.
Post by: bobcat on October 22, 2015, 08:50:19 AM
The 7/08 is a good choice but just remember, the Ruger American is a light rifle and with certain ammo the recoil can still be fairly substantial. Hint: don't try the Hornady Superformance with 139 grain SST bullet. :o
The plan is also to pack some fishing weights and packing peanuts in the the stock. Based on what I've seen online the American just has styrofoam in there so it should be easy to replace.
Good idea, that will help.
Post by: quadrafire on October 22, 2015, 09:11:48 AM
I'd check this out. Beautiful gun and awesome caliber
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,183879.0.html
Post by: C-Money on October 22, 2015, 09:36:55 AM
Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. I'm going to pick up a Ruger American in 7mm-08 Rem after work today. It's a cartridge I wouldn't have even looked at prior to this thread so I really appreciate it. Now I can trash my back dragging a big buck 300 yds to the truck instead of while shooting it. :IBCOOL:
Nice! Have fun with your new rifle!
Post by: Blacklab on October 22, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
Post by: lamrith on October 22, 2015, 11:52:51 AM
I don't see any evidence it causes less hearing damage than other brakes, plus all the 'reviews' I could find talked about 'how cool it looked!'.There are brakes out there that do not punish shooter or bystanders, and if it saves his back it is worth trying.7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
+2
Forget the brake.
Don't add hearing damage to a bad back.
Here is one from a local company that works well.
http://killer-innovations.com/?page_id=319
I'm learning that most brakes are bought for looks, not performance.
Again, hearing loss is permanent.
Where is hearing damage coming from? At Range you wear earpro, hunting talking one shot.
Since you haven't tried it take it from someone that owns one. It works and is not the usual brake that beats bystanders up. It was designed to send it up and back over everyone's head rather than just back to sides. That is why I recommended it. I would not recommend a traditional brake for his use by any means...
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Post by: WAnoob on October 22, 2015, 12:04:59 PM
I don't see any evidence it causes less hearing damage than other brakes, plus all the 'reviews' I could find talked about 'how cool it looked!'.There are brakes out there that do not punish shooter or bystanders, and if it saves his back it is worth trying.7mm08, super cartridge, low recoil.
Carl
+1
+2
Forget the brake.
Don't add hearing damage to a bad back.
Here is one from a local company that works well.
http://killer-innovations.com/?page_id=319
I'm learning that most brakes are bought for looks, not performance.
Again, hearing loss is permanent.
Where is hearing damage coming from? At Range you wear earpro, hunting talking one shot.
Since you haven't tried it take it from someone that owns one. It works and is not the usual brake that beats bystanders up. It was designed to send it up and back over everyone's head rather than just back to sides. That is why I recommended it. I would not recommend a traditional brake for his use by any means...
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Precisely! I don't like brakes due to the noise but if you need a brake for a bad back, by all means get a brake. If you would have read the link I posted to Precision Rifle Blog it posts how dramatically certain brakes can reduce the recoil. Never heard of people installing a brake for just looks??
Post by: theleo on October 22, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
The 257 Roberts with 115-120 grain partitions would be a very well mannered and capable round in a light bolt gun. It wouldn't be my ideal elk rifle but I wouldn't hesitate on a broadside elk at 200 yards if that's what I had.
The 7mm Valkerie seems to be rite on the heals of a 7mm-08 and runs off of the AR 15 platform, so a guy wouldn't have to lug around a heavier AR 10. This would be a handloaders round though...
Post by: jasnt on October 23, 2015, 07:53:23 AM
.243, .260 rem, 7mm-08, 6.5 Creedmoor. If you plan to hike, get bolt gun. If you plan to sit, get an ar-10.:yeah:
I have >1k rounds through an AR-10 in .260 and don't anticipate any recoil whatsoever when shooting 100-120 grain bullets.
To me, blast is more noticeable than recoil with these cartridges.
I personally love 243. I've never felt under gunned with mine. Even the big bear I shot last year had full pass threw and went 35 yards and piled up.
I also love my 300wm. It's a weatherby vanguard in a how's axiom (recoil compensating) stoke and put a limb saver on it. It's a great mountian rifle. Light weight and easy to pack. Adjustable lop and cheak weld. Recoils much less than my friends 270 or any shotgun I've ever shot
Post by: high country on October 25, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
.243, .260 rem, 7mm-08, 6.5 Creedmoor. If you plan to hike, get bolt gun. If you plan to sit, get an ar-10.
I have >1k rounds through an AR-10 in .260 and don't anticipate any recoil whatsoever when shooting 100-120 grain bullets
To me, blast is more noticeable than recoil with these cartridges.
Pick one you can shoot ACCURATELY...there is a good reason the 243 is legal to use.I like the list and will only add, 260 deserves a go with 140's. For a 350 yard point and shoot, 257roy with 100 gr tsx.....personally proven on elk at 400 plus yds.
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 25, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 25, 2015, 08:54:28 PM
I don't see any evidence it causes less hearing damage than other brakes, plus all the 'reviews' I could find talked about 'how cool it looked!'.
I'm learning that most brakes are bought for looks, not performance.
Again, hearing loss is permanent.
I can assure you that the Killer Innovations brake is incredibly effective and much more than "gun bling". I've run them on a few different bolt action pistols in 260 Rem and 284 Win. They are still loud, but not as punishing as many others out there.
The 7-08 is a neat caliber that should be perfect for what you're looking to do. Combined with the 120 Barnes bullet you have a pretty serious hunting combo!
Andrew