Post by: PolarBear on October 22, 2015, 11:55:28 PM
If you fish in WA St. you might want to pay attention to this:
There is an emerging event on the Chehalis River Basin that could have far reaching effects on the resource and fishing regulations and allotments. The Skokomish Indian Tribe has recently made a claim to "usual and accustomed grounds" on the Satsop and Chehalis Rivers. IE: They are asking for fishing rights in the Chehalis Basin. They have scheduled a "meet and confer" with other parties to US vs. Washington State including other tribes for Nov. 4th. A Meet and Confer is usually a precursor for court proceedings and an opportunity for parties to reach a settlement. At this time it is unknown what evidence there is for this claim and it is unknown if it will be presented on the 4th or if they will save it for court.
Its pretty much wait and see but something you might want to keep an eye on...
Post by: lokidog on October 23, 2015, 12:20:33 AM
What a bunch of crap!!
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 23, 2015, 06:38:21 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 23, 2015, 10:00:23 AM
Post by: PolarBear on October 23, 2015, 12:00:06 PM
Post by: Antlershed on October 23, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 23, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
I would think the local tribes would be against this.
Post by: Antlershed on October 23, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 23, 2015, 06:03:30 PM
The Quinaults dont get 50%, they get however many they want.
Believe what you want, but there is a formula for figuring out how many each side catches.
If they caught however many they wanted, they would be on the river 365 days a year.
Post by: Antlershed on October 23, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
Post by: Ridinshotgun on October 23, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Post by: Westside88 on October 23, 2015, 10:10:06 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 23, 2015, 10:23:57 PM
Mismanaged by all parties. Inexcusable how many fish are taken by net each year, regardless of who is doing the netting. Doesn't take a genius to figure out if you take out entire schools of fish for many days in row year in and year out the result will be disastourous. Managing by estimates of fish that you can't confirm? They need to have periods of net free days spaced out to allow some escapement.........what a waste of a good fishery
Well said. Look what they have done to the coho/king runs in both the Nisqually and Puyallup. Chehalis system will be fished out in 5 years with little to no returns if they net it the same way.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 23, 2015, 11:13:06 PM
If they were given fishing rights, it should come out of the already allocated tribal shares. The losers would be the tribes already fishing the Chehalis. The Boldt decision interpreted "in common with" as a 50-50 split between treaty tribes and the rest of the citizens of the State. It doesn't mean that the Quinaults and Chehalis tribes get 50% ad then if a new tribe gets fishing rights they get 50% of the common property fish that are left over after the local tribes take theirs.that is true, but currently there is no netting on any of the tributaries. if they let the skoks loose on the satsop, that one is done for.
I would think the local tribes would be against this.
Post by: HntnFsh on October 24, 2015, 05:39:34 AM
Don't hold your breath! The Squaxins have the perfect opportunity to reopen the hatchery on Skookum Creek but every time they are approached about the matter their answer is they are more focused on the golf course, smoke factory and casino. The Skoks built a hatchery at Saltwater Park mainly because it was given to them by Tacoma Power. Remember folks, the Skoks are those who you see with nets completely blocking the culvert under 101 going into the Purdy Creek Hatchery.
TPU is building and managing that hatchery as part of the relicensing agreement with the Skoks for Cushman dam. That's all the Skoks have to do with it.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 24, 2015, 10:29:47 AM
River and all tributeries close 10 / 26 15So after that, all that have the means will travel to a different set of rivers and put additional pressure there--I guess, expect further emergency closures after that? The last river in this state is sure going to be busy.