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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: 762Armo on October 30, 2015, 08:55:01 PM

Title: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: 762Armo on October 30, 2015, 08:55:01 PM: http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21677188-it-rare-new-animal-species-emerge-front-scientists-eyes?cid1=cust%2Fednew%2Fn%2Fbl%2Fn%2F20151029n%2Fowned%2Fn%2Fn%2Fnwl%2Fn%2Fn%2FNA%2Fn

Interesting read.
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 30, 2015, 09:06:29 PM: There's a documentary on Netflix called "coywolf"
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 31, 2015, 06:53:29 AM: These guys have been around in the NE for a long time. Their adaptation to living in cities is amazing. We can only hope that our wolves adapt to living in Seattle and Tacoma so the wolf lovers get to benefit from their actions in real time and close up. "Fifi, come on. Where are you, Fifi?"
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: PA BEN on October 31, 2015, 09:04:29 AM: So is there any info on the laws on shooting a mix breed? :dunno:
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 31, 2015, 09:13:00 AM: Quote from: PA BEN on October 31, 2015, 09:04:29 AM
So is there any info on the laws on shooting a mix breed? :dunno:

If it's not pure wolf, it's open season. You'd better be able to prove your case with a DNA test, though. To the wolf lovers, they're all cuddly, fluffy wolves.
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: AspenBud on November 02, 2015, 08:55:12 AM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 31, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: PA BEN on October 31, 2015, 09:04:29 AM
So is there any info on the laws on shooting a mix breed? :dunno:

If it's not pure wolf, it's open season. You'd better be able to prove your case with a DNA test, though. To the wolf lovers, they're all cuddly, fluffy wolves.

And more than one person has had problems with the law when they thought someone's dog was a "hybrid."
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: treeclimber2852 on November 02, 2015, 09:15:14 AM: We had several running around in the Charlotte, NC area. Our neighborhood lost a couple of cats and a beagle to one. Luckily, during urban archery season, I got a clear shot at him. Like the article says, twice the size of a coyote, and apparently not afraid of people.
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 02, 2015, 11:10:54 AM: I grew up in southern NH in the late 70s and early 80s as these animals were colonizing. I was fortunate to shoot the first live one I ever saw - left it lay (it was July), but it was an adult female I estimated to weigh 40 lbs. They also come in color phases like wolves, I've seen light silvery grayish brown like a typical western coyote, a rufous red color, and black. At least in northern New England, it is pretty clear that they are evolving back towards wolves, as their primary food resource is white-tailed deer.
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 02, 2015, 11:17:53 AM: Quote from: DOUBLELUNG on November 02, 2015, 11:10:54 AM
I grew up in southern NH in the late 70s and early 80s as these animals were colonizing. I was fortunate to shoot the first live one I ever saw - left it lay (it was July), but it was an adult female I estimated to weigh 40 lbs. They also come in color phases like wolves, I've seen light silvery grayish brown like a typical western coyote, a rufous red color, and black. At least in northern New England, it is pretty clear that they are evolving back towards wolves, as their primary food resource is white-tailed deer.

Where abouts? I grew up in Fitzwilliam, south of Keene and north of Gardner, MA.

We called them coy dogs back then.
Title: Re: Wolf-Coyote
Post by: KFhunter on November 02, 2015, 05:47:56 PM: Taylor Mitchell was killed by these things, a Canadian singer out for a hike in Nova Scotia. Nat Geo did an excellent documentary which I happened to catch on TV a while back.

Here's a different article on the coywolf aka: "Eastern Coyote"
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/28/coywolf-coyote-wolf-hybrid/24186739/

I hope they don't inter mix with our wolves we have now but I don't see how it won't happen, they're already intermixing with domestic K9 pets.