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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: JJB11B on November 01, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
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I am looking at re-barreling a Remington 700 short action. The shroud on the bold has the key thingy on it, and I think I want that removed....So here is my question.
I want to go with something medium weight for shooting coyotes mainly I have considered these calibers so far
7mm08
260 Rem
6.5 something.
I would like something that would have a healthy barrel life but I want to be able to knock coyotes down out to 600+ yards. open to other suggestions on calibers
My question is, What is a rough guestimate on cost of re-barreling in one of the above calibers, and having the action trued up? I would like to know a good estimate so I know how much $ I need to save up to do this.
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As for which cartridge, 243/260/6.5CM/708/308 - any of those would work and be little fuss.
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The 6.5x47 Lapua would suit your needs quite nicely and probably be the easiest for you as well as offer store bought ammo if you need that. It'll work well in your short action Rem 700. Maybe think about the necked down little brother to that cartridge, the 6x47 Lapua. I'd suggest a 1-8twist so you can shoot the heavies for either if you want.
You'll be looking at $300 and up for just the barrel, if you want it fluted that'll add another $125 +/-.
Chambering and install of the barrel you're looking at $200-$250.
Action work, blueprinting, will also be $200-$250.
Stock bedding work figure $100 +/-.
You'll likely have some that'll tell you having the action blueprinted isn't necessary and I'm sure some will say the same thing about having the stock bed but most good gunsmiths will highly recommend it and many won't rebarrel it if the action work isn't done also. I wouldn't ever spend the money for a new custom barrel and not have the other work done, too.
RBros Rifles is a site sponsor here and Travis does very good work and I believe he's done quite a few 6.5x47 Lapua's that have all turned out VERY well.
Another option would be to have Benchmark Barrel Company up in Arlington Wa. do the work. They make a very good barrel and could do all the other work also.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
that's what I was thinking as well.
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I'd love to own one of those calibers though. Even my 6.5x284 is expensive.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
that's what I was thinking as well.
A good friend of mine owns a 6.5x47 he had over 2500 rounds (documented) down the barrel before it was set back and another 500 since. the lapua brass last a long time he has close to 20 firings on them. sure they cost a little over a dollar a piece but they are worth every penny IMO
I wish I can use Lapua brass in every rifle I own but they don't make it for every cartridge if you want quality you have to pay for it.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
that's what I was thinking as well.
A good friend of mine owns a 6.5x47 he had over 2500 rounds (documented) down the barrel before it was set back and another 500 since. the lapua brass last a long time he has close to 20 firings on them. sure they cost a little over a dollar a piece but they are worth every penny IMO
I wish I can use Lapua brass in every rifle I own but they don't make it for every cartridge if you want quality you have to pay for it.
If you reload and shoot a lot, it would be worth it. But just for the occasional shooter, it's expensive.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
that's what I was thinking as well.
Yes and no.
Initial cost may be more expensive but when you purchase Lapua brass you aren't just paying for a name, you're getting a much better product that is far more consistent, from piece to piece, as well as much more durable and will last longer. If you actually compare the prices of Lapua brass to a lot of the others, it's typically on par. The biggest difference you see in price is because Lapua packages their brass 100 pieces per box and most of the others are usually only 50 so the price per each is close to the same.
If you aren't set up to reload your own, you may be better off investing in reloading equipment first. If you aren't interested in going the reloading route because maybe you don't shoot enough to make it worth it, I'm not sure I'd ever spend the money to have a rifle rebarreled. If you are set up to reload then spending a few extra $$$ on Lapua brass will more than pay for itself in the long run.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
that's what I was thinking as well.
A good friend of mine owns a 6.5x47 he had over 2500 rounds (documented) down the barrel before it was set back and another 500 since. the lapua brass last a long time he has close to 20 firings on them. sure they cost a little over a dollar a piece but they are worth every penny IMO
I wish I can use Lapua brass in every rifle I own but they don't make it for every cartridge if you want quality you have to pay for it.
If you reload and shoot a lot, it would be worth it. But just for the occasional shooter, it's expensive.
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Then the brass would last many years.
IMO if your gonna spend good money on a custom why not spend money on high quality components and if you go custom you really should be hand loading to get the full potential for accuracy.
If you don't hand load I would recommend a 6.5 creed the off the shelf ammo are decent even better with hand loads.
both the 6.5x47 and 6.5 creed are very good for long range coyote hunting even deer.
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I believe that Benchmark barrels in Arlington would charge you around $850.00 to true up your action and and put a new barrel on I think their lead time is now 4 months well worth the wait.
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I've noticed any and all Lapua ammo and brass is very expensive. That's why I don't own one..
The Lapua brass is very precise. The only reason to turn necks on Lapua brass is if one has a "tight neck" chamber. I bought 200 rounds for some match shooting I was doing. 184 rounds ranged +/- .6 grains and the remaining 16 rounds only added another .8 grains. As for neck turning of that brass it was only about .001 out of round.
I set a couple of national records with that brass.
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If I was going to be using store bought ammo and wanted something in 6.5 that I could get a wide variety of top shelf factory ammo for and not empty my wallet, the 6.5x55 Swede would easily be my first choice.
The 6.5x55 Swede has a pretty good FPS advantage over the others mentioned (260Rem, 6.5Creed, 6.5x47Lapua) and FPS along with high BC bullets makes shooting at extended distances, easier! The 6.5x55 Swede only slightly trails the 6.5x284 and in a 24in tube, they're nearly the same. Also, you can purchase, good, factory ammo about as cheap as anything on the market.
If I was rebarreling something, wanted to use good quality factory ammo that wouldn't cost a fortune, it'd be a no brainer, 6.5x55 Swede is what I go with.
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If I was going to be using store bought ammo and wanted something in 6.5 that I could get a wide variety of top shelf factory ammo for and not empty my wallet, the 6.5x55 Swede would easily be my first choice.
The 6.5x55 Swede has a pretty good FPS advantage over the others mentioned (260Rem, 6.5Creed, 6.5x47Lapua) and FPS along with high BC bullets makes shooting at extended distances, easier! The 6.5x55 Swede only slightly trails the 6.5x284 and in a 24in tube, they're nearly the same. Also, you can purchase, good, factory ammo about as cheap as anything on the market.
If I was rebarreling something, wanted to use good quality factory ammo that wouldn't cost a fortune, it'd be a no brainer, 6.5x55 Swede is what I go with.
Ugh! Nevermind, forgot you have a short action and even with a Wyatt's ext. mag box the 6.5x55 Swede will likely be to long unless you want to single feed which certainly isn't a bad thing but most don't like the idea of it. So if a 6.5 is really what you want and the price of 6.5x47Lapua loaded ammo is more than you'd like to spend, the 6.5 Creedmore would be your best option and I probably wouldn't completely rule out a 243 Win.
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260 class will bomb elk at the ranges you are asking about...as will all of the others.
If I was going custom, I'd consider 6 creed as its making money these days.
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Maybe Ill poke around and see if I can find an old beat up 700 long action. I already have a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser its a model 94 carbine, cocks when you push the bolt forward. Sweet shooting little sucker. Was my Grandfathers, then my Dads, now Mine
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The 6.5x47 will get you around 4K of barrel life and cases usually last 15-18 firings. The most firings I have seen is 22 from one of my team shooters. We pull barrels at 3500 and they still shoot 1/2 moa.
If your just using it for coyotes, a fast twist 6mm and 105s are hard to beat. For pricing you will be around $850 for truing, chamber, and non fluted barrel. Bedding, coating, etc is additional.
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Thank you!, I just watched a bunch of youtube videos about your company, I think you may get my business when I get the dough saved up!
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Id just run the .260 if its a short action . push some 120s nicely :twocents: