Post by: Tikka 15 on November 03, 2015, 08:25:46 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 03, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
Oh, and a message drop box so hunters can drop requests in to go hunting 6 months in advance :chuckle:
Post by: TheHunt on November 03, 2015, 08:30:10 PM
Screen your phone calls and add a message to your phone message.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 03, 2015, 08:34:24 PM
Post by: Skillet on November 03, 2015, 08:35:43 PM
Signs at the residence property line indicating no hunting permission will be granted to door knockers, and trespassing charges will be pressed against those who can't read. Let the voice mail pick up all unknown numbers, so they hear your message that no more permission will be given.
It is an unfair burden you have to bear as a landowner, but just remember that everybody who thinks ill of you actually asserting your rights as a property owner will most likely forget all about it after their bong hit back at the truck, dude...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 03, 2015, 08:41:26 PM
Post by: jackmaster on November 03, 2015, 08:49:49 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 03, 2015, 08:52:07 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on November 03, 2015, 08:56:45 PM
Post by: pd on November 03, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
I have permission to hunt some properties in Eastern Washington. The landowner is very polite to me, but it is not easy to make contact with him (he likes it that way). He has a gated driveway, with a remote microphone at the gate.
I am very much the pushy type, and do not mind to knock on doors. 07:30 is excessive, especially the day of the hunt. I start asking one or even two years in advance (seriously).
Post by: Tikka 15 on November 03, 2015, 09:04:23 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 03, 2015, 09:07:52 PM
Unfortunately, as more and more land gets locked up or requires a fee, this trend may get worse.
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2015, 09:09:17 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 03, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 03, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
How is it that they are getting your phone number?
He's let people hunt, who brings friends who bring friends who bring friends so that now their all strangers to one another all with his number
Post by: Tikka 15 on November 03, 2015, 09:25:19 PM
Post by: Tikka 15 on November 03, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 03, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
A unlisted number and when a number is given out you tell them not to give it out. When ever I get a new caller I ask where they got my name from :tup: Now days the gps is the most common lol :chuckle:
Post by: runamuk on November 03, 2015, 10:24:30 PM
How is it that they are getting your phone number?google
tax records
land records
phone books
word of mouth from others who have permission
search engines
Post by: tgomez on November 04, 2015, 05:11:05 AM
I want to add 90% of the hunters are very polite, it's just the volume of callers that gets overwhelming. Thanks for the suggestions so far. I want to allow access when possible, just need to keep it organized and respect my family.
Maybe get a track phone, or a "throw away cell phone"(the ones you add minutes to) and use that number so the hunters don't call your land line, or personal cell phones. Put a sign that says CALL ONLY FOR PERMISSION TO HUNT PLEASE. Then leave the number on there. Good luck and hope it works out whatever you choose.
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 04, 2015, 11:08:48 AM
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Post by: Bean Counter on November 04, 2015, 11:29:53 AM
Other than putting up a sign I don't know what to do tell you. If I owned land I'd rather have to tell people "No, but thanks for asking" than deal with trespassers. You could always put the land in an LLC and use a post office box for the assessor information. That's what I would do for myriad reasons.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 04, 2015, 12:24:22 PM
Make a sign and put it out on your driveway which will stop the drive ins...
Screen your phone calls and add a message to your phone message.
:yeah:
At least they're asking. It may be annoying but how much more annoying are the trespassers??? :dunno:
Post by: Landowner on November 04, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
I try to be polite (but brief) with those who are asking to hunt at the last minute before a season opener or in the middle of a season. The answer is always no as we are full up way before then. But I do know that it takes some courage to knock on a door to ask for permission, so some respect has to be shown to those who do.
I am continually amazed at the number of hunters with draw permits who show up at the last minute with no idea where to hunt. Gotta understand before you apply for a permit what your options are for access.
Lastly, I won't get off my tractor to stop and talk to someone looking to hunt.
Post by: WSU on November 04, 2015, 12:56:52 PM
Like others have said, perhaps be glad they are asking instead of just hunting without asking?
Post by: Gringo31 on November 04, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
Post by: Bill W on November 04, 2015, 01:27:29 PM
I'd have a sign put up that said this years hunting slots are full. Please email _________ for opportunities for next year. (You could add a first come first serve basis after March 1 or something) Thanks for being respectful of my property. :tup:
We have a farmer nearby that also has a sign up just like yours. I lucked out the first year I asked for permission as it turned out I held the door open for him at the local Big R the day before.
Bill W
Post by: cavemann on November 04, 2015, 01:28:17 PM
Post by: 2MANY on November 04, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
I want to add 90% of the hunters are very polite, it's just the volume of callers that gets overwhelming. Thanks for the suggestions so far. I want to allow access when possible, just need to keep it organized and respect my family.
You don't have to look far to find what you are doing wrong.
The answer is NO to everyone.
It might take a year or two but word will get out and you won't have the problem moving forward.
Only people that have truly had this problem understand it.
Everyone else feels entitled.
Post by: high country on November 04, 2015, 01:42:51 PM
I have hunted some ground that is plagued by elk herds that destroy fences and crops, the landowners often appreciate the call......but not always, and that is where the pre season relationship comes in handy.
Post by: 2MANY on November 04, 2015, 02:17:16 PM
Nothing like an over aggressive novice hunter spooking the herd into the fences.
It's sad but true.
I always kind of assumed my pops was being an Ahole when he wouldn't let some hunt.
Then over the years I have watched the circus.
We have actually had people break into the shop next to the ranch house and steel bolt cutters to cut the chain locks on the gates.
It's pathetic.
Shooting from the road in the middle of the cows.
Fishing bait in a fly only stretch.
And when confronted they all try to lie.
"I didn't see the signs"
"I haven't caught a thing"
"I shot it up there and we tracked it down here"
It's laughable when you show them the phone pictures taken from the spotting scope of them hiding fish, or reading the signs.
I sympathize with the land owner and not that it matters but we hunt 100% public land.
Post by: 2MANY on November 04, 2015, 02:35:02 PM
I apologize after reading my post for the attitude but just thinking of the crap is irritating.
Post by: Bean Counter on November 04, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
Post by: The100Road on November 04, 2015, 03:12:18 PM
I just want to say thank you to Tikka and the landowners on here that are still granting permission for people to hunt.. I have three kids and worry their opportunities are shrinking each year. It is good to know you guys are still trying to keep an open mind even with the headaches you endure. Please don't get discouraged, most hunters appreciate your willingness to even be open to permission. Hopefully you find a way to work it out.
Very well said. we very much appreciate it.
Post by: GBoyd on November 04, 2015, 07:45:51 PM
On the other hand, asking is how you get access when you don't know anyone. Really, I'd be stupid not to.
Post by: pc on November 05, 2015, 01:19:04 PM
I waited until he told me of the problem deer on his property eating all his Blueberries, and other fruit trees. I said I think I can help you I have a special permit that allows me to remove problem deer :)
Once we walked the property, I came clean and told him... I’m a bow hunter. He was great, he gave me the gate key, and said if you see anything strange or anyone else around let me know. Happy to Sir :IBCOOL:
Also tried to work about a full week up at this place every summer, the less I worked, the more of the deer went to him.
Hope that helps~
Post by: NoBark on November 05, 2015, 01:46:20 PM
I just want to say thank you to Tikka and the landowners on here that are still granting permission for people to hunt.. I have three kids and worry their opportunities are shrinking each year. It is good to know you guys are still trying to keep an open mind even with the headaches you endure. Please don't get discouraged, most hunters appreciate your willingness to even be open to permission. Hopefully you find a way to work it out.
That's Truth!
As more and more people pop for leases, the rest have fewer and fewer places to hunt. One of the things our founders wanted changed was the way hunting was for the rich only back in jolly old England. They wanted the average Joe to be able to Hunt as well as the rich. I'm afraid we are quickly traveling down the road of reverting back to the old ways. From someone who will never call or knock on your door Tikka, (have other options) THANK YOU for your attitude of trying to share a little with others. Wow, made my day.
Post by: Opportunist on November 05, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
At least they are asking permission instead of trespassing, a lot of dirtbags out there.
Post by: Brad Harshman on November 05, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
Thank you for your humble honesty. It's important that we respect the landowners personal lives. I live in town, once a month, a stranger/salesman/mission knocks on my door. It drives me nuts. And it's only once a month. I can't imagine what you go through. Sorry.
With all this said, are hunters driving by your land and seeing elk out in the fields? I can see their desire to get permission that very day. After all, the elk migrate.
So what should you do? I help manage a lot of public land and I can tell you signs with a positive message are less vandalized. Signs are expensive. Signs need to be sized appropriately. It's an investment. Time and money.
Maybe signs stating:
Hunting by Written Permission Only
Permission Application Period May - July
Late Requests Will Not Be Considered
It's professional, polite, and enforceable. It's says "no" but also says "try again next year."
Regards,
Brad
Post by: Rob Allen on November 06, 2015, 07:24:37 AM
then I went deer hunting for the first time in an area with a huge mix of different kinds of property. Columbia and Garfield counties. I really appreciated the properties being well marked..
it was actually a huge help.
Tikka, I am curious if you are willing to allow some hunters on your land what is your hesitation with enrolling in the WDFW plan? just curious.
I am also really appreciative to the landowners who allowed us to hunt their land even though we were unsuccessful.