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Other Activities => Trapping => Topic started by: Carp Commander on November 08, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
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Not a whole lot going on so far this year. I really only got started yesterday with a few colony traps. I had a good friend and his son with me on the first check of the season. I hit double digits but was a little disappointed.
From the lack of activity on the thread this year, it appears everyone else is also easing into the season. I plan to pull my line tomorrow and don't know that I would go back out until the fur primes a little more.
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My trapping partner and I won't start until December.
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Otter and beaver or prime where I am..NE corner. Am I safe to assume that means mink and muskrat are as well? They will come from the same general area.
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My personal opinion is that the beaver and otter aren’t ready for several more weeks. At least down here and I am not sure that the distance between us makes much difference. Maybe someone else will chime in on that.
The good news is yes muskrat are priming up but are still a little blue. Mink will prime shortly after, maybe around the first week of December.
I won’t target beaver until mid-December unless it’s a damage complaint. Because of the current state of the beaver market, I wouldn't gamble on taking any until they are at their absolute best.
Although the price has dropped, the deduction for fall rats isn't huge. Because you can catch rats in large numbers and their ease in putting up, it’s worth taking them earlier in the year.
Again just my opinion.
Here is another thread discussing some of the guidelines for primness.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,129283.msg1722279.html#msg1722279
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That thread is helpful as a rough guideline, but it varies from one year to the next. I know what I'm looking for on mink, coon, coyote, muskrat, bobcat, otter...what am I looking for on beaver that will tell me it's prime?
I'm not as concerned this year, as the beaver/otter/mink/coon I've taken will be used for decorating my new house. Couple mounts, couple tanned...etc. I got burned on my mink and otter last year, time to start a collection.
Thanks for the info.
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Tagging
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The indications of a prime fur are pretty much the same with every animal. It mostly has to do with the color of the leather. The color range from shades of blue to smoky gray and when fully prime the skin will get white.
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Another great day of trapping Too bad the catching wasn't good. The line was pulled today. Be back at in a week or two.
Got my first incidental catch of the year.
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My incidental catch
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Now we know why you are the "Carp Commander" .....lol
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My incidental catch
What the hell :yike: kind of muskrat is that ? :EAT: :lol4:
JC
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Pretty poor catch today only eight muskrats.
I had two beaver traps out and connected on one small one. Didn't want to start catching beaver this early but it comes with the permission. The land owner has had enough and didn't want to wait any longer.
Another incidental catch today. At least this one had fur instead of scales. Little male mink with some neat white markings. Never seen one like this.
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This mink had four separate white patches, one on the chin, throat, between the front legs and a long one between the back legs.
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First beaver of the year.
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That is an interesting mink. Congrats on the beaver
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White patches under the chin of mink are pretty common it seems to me. A little less so on the belly.
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White patches under the chin of mink are pretty common it seems to me. A little less so on the belly.
Yes, that seems to be the case. I always see chins and sometimes throat markings but not between the back legs. May just keep this one for myself!
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Muskrat numbers were horrible today so I pulled the line! Not sure what I would do without my Otter Sled.
I call it the S.S Rat-Slayer
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Still learning about these rats. I had this obvious feed bed in deep water. I made three sets on runs (pinch points) coming into the bed using double colonies in each set. That's six traps committed to this one feed bed. I also chopped up an apple, put one chunk in each colony trap and then placed the rest of the apple on the feed bed.
On the first night every trap was empty but the apple from the feed bed was gone. Could be that just about any critter ate the apple but I was convinced it was muskrat.
Now normally I would have pulled & shuffled but this just looked liked to good of a spot. I re-adjusted the same three sets and placed a 7x7x24 single door right on top of the feed bed. I baited it with apple and some cherry extract.
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The feed bed
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Today I was surprised to have a nice big rat in the single door and twice as surprised that all the colony traps were empty. Now how in the heck did rats come and go from this feed bed every night for two nights without catching one?
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Two more beavers today. Neither very big and based on the one I skinned yesterday they are still pretty blue.
The land owner was so happy he tossed me some gas money and said I had access for as long as he owned the place. That is as long as I come back every year and deal with those "@#$%% beaver".
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I been having same troubles with rats. I had one area set with 3 colony's (all access oints ) and no rats but it was obvious the area was getting plenty of action. :dunno: they learned to fly
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Do the carrot baits work pretty well for you? Apples worked pretty well for me in the past but birds and maybe mice ate them all consistently last year. Do you use lure with the carrots?
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Do the carrot baits work pretty well for you? Apples worked pretty well for me in the past but birds and maybe mice ate them all consistently last year. Do you use lure with the carrots?
I really don't think there is any bait or scent that works better than others consistently. I catch just as many rats in my mink traps baited with muskrat or beaver as I do with apples. I only used apples because I have them in surplus right now. I have tried apples, carrots, parsnips, turnips, potatoes and many others. Nothing works consistently.
I have had the same experience with attractants. I have tried spearmint, cherry, vanilla, catnip, anise and a whole host of others, again without consistent results.
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I scouted a new area this week looking for skunks. I am only going to commit 4 traps to skunks and wanted to put those traps on confirmed locations so I put out a trial camera. I got some good video but was surprised that there was only one of them working this set. Looks like the same skunk came back three nights in a row.
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He's a fatty!!
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He's a fatty!!
:yeah:
He's almost rolling around!
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Idk why but I can't see it and my phone won't load it manually.
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Idk why but I can't see it and my phone won't load it manually.
Not sure what is going on. Hope you get to see it. I think its a pretty neat video. Its no bobcat but still pretty cool.
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One very small kit beaver this morning. Spent most of the morning reorganizing my garage. Seems like I go through this two or three times every year. Just haven't found a layout that works best. I kind of like the way I got it today.
Put a skunk trap out and kept the camera on it. Hopefully have a closed door tomorrow.
Here is the new layout of the fur shed.
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I need a shop like that!
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Looks good!
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Looks like I had the trail camera a little too high. I got three videos but did not get the capture. The most interesting is the time stamps.
Here is the first video at 912pm.
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Second video 1205am
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Third video 1241am
Look where the bait can is.
This was the last video until I got there. The bait can was 4 feet away from the trap when I got there at 730am.
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Nice clean stripes.
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That is a nice looking skunk. I still can't view your videos. My phone won't load avi. So it will have to wait till I'm back home. Congrats bud
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Not sure my wife approves of the odor. I removed the essence flawlessly, didn't spill a drop but when you push the essence out into a jar, WOW!
Now that the lid is on I'm hoping the odor dissipates quickly.
A great learning experience and Ill be after a few more next week. Very underappreciated fur.
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Kim K. appreciates it. That's a good start.
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Use a syringe and you will have very little if any odor.
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I used a syringe to harvest the essence and to dispatch. It was the transferring from syringe to glass bottle that allowed it to get into the air. It dissipated really fast once the lid was on.
Do you freeze it?
What is the best way to store it?
I double bagged the glass jar in zip lock bags and buried it in a plastic tub of kitty litter.
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Put a balloon over your glass jar mouth and inject the essence through the balloon. Dip your lid and bottle top in wax and put it in some dirt. No smell.
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Why do you save it? :dunno:
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Why do you save it? :dunno:
To sell it. What else.
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Because you get more for the essence than you do for the pelt.
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Why do you save it? :dunno:
To sell it. What else.
What's it used for?
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To make perfume, predator lure scents
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That's what I thought. :chuckle:
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Got a few more coyotes done the other day. This batch makes about 30 I have skinned so far this season. More and more rubs showing up so I'm probably done with coyotes for the year.
The skunk trapping is still good. I'll post some photos of this weekends stinkys when I get a chance.