Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 20, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
. . .this is my first new rifle (Weatherby Vanguard Varmint Special w/a 22" #3 heavy contour barrel) and I can't afford a $500+ scope (right now). . .I would like to get a decent scope for about $250 that I can start out with so that I can get out there and use the gun
. . .I would like a variable power minimum of 4-12x and an AO would be nice. . .multi-coated optics would also be very high on the list. . .
. . .along with the scope what about a base & rings to go with it that won't happer loading the rifle. . .it's a top load, non-detachable magazine
Thanks!!!
Post by: wastickslinger on January 20, 2009, 01:25:15 PM
As far as rings, I stick to Leupold rings.
Post by: addicted on January 20, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
I went out on a limb and tried out a BSA Contender 6-24x40 for my new .223 and i really like the quality of worksmanship and clarity of the glass. I was low on cash and was looking for a high powered scope to wack foxes out here and this thing really fit the bill. I payed $105. I had a whole review written up for it but it was deleted by someone else in the house :rolleyes:
1/8th inch click adjustments with a 1 inch tube.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=334250
http://www.bsaoptics.com/
For a dirt cheap scope that gets the job done this one has been working great. we were shooting bottle caps at 100 meters the other day. If your going to paint it camo then the silver doesnt matter. there are matte options as well.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe96%2Fiseemetoo%2FP1040071.jpg&hash=6aa88e057ca118645645ec86de6fc57393119ef3)
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Post by: rainshadow1 on January 20, 2009, 01:51:11 PM
There are others, I'm sure, but I sure like Nikon for a cheap quality scope. I have at least 5 now, maybe 6! Leupold is my favorite, but I don't like spending that kind of money on each gun. Nikon has yet to fail me in any way.
Post by: thinkingman on January 20, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
Consider the Burris that's in the classifieds right now?
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2009, 03:58:32 PM
. . .I just got the latest Cabela's catalog. . .the "Shooting" one and I've been scouring the scope section intently. . .
. . .I think what I'm gonna get is the Cabela's Tactical Centerfire scope in 3-12x w/a 40mm objective lens and side focus parallax adjustment. . .each of these scopes comes with calibrated turrets for a specific caliber/bullet weight combination. . .it comes with two turrets for the .22-250. . .one for 50 grainers & one for 55 grainers. . .you just adjust the turret to the range (assuming that you have that much time freedom. . .not likely in the field, but a nice feature none the less) and you hold dead on. . .more realistically for me is that I will sight the scope in to where I can hit within a 4-5" circle out to the maximum distance without any hold. . .that way I don't have to try and figure out any ranges etc. . .just put the crosshairs on the heart and pull the trigger. . .
. . .I think that method is MPBR (maximum point blank range) sighting, but I don't know for sure. . .
. . .anyway the scope has multi-coated optics and is only $150. . .which is in my price range. . .I might drive down to pick one up tomorrow morning so that I can sight it in this weekend. . .
. . .the only thing that I would change is that I don't particularly care for the duplex reticles. . .I prefer a ballistic reticle like the one on Cabela's 5X Alpha scopes (they have a 3-15x), but they cost a $100 more and the duplex reticle will get the job done. . .
. . .I know that you get what you pay for, but at the moment I'm on a TIGHT budget and this is what I can afford. . .I would rather get an affordable scope and shoot than wait indefinitely with a new, but un-shootable rifle just sitting at home in a case!!!
Thanks for all your suggestions guys and I will let you know how this works out. . .
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2009, 04:14:50 PM
Nikons have a really nice lineup out right now.
I went out on a limb and tried out a BSA Contender 6-24x40 for my new .223 and i really like the quality of worksmanship and clarity of the glass. I was low on cash and was looking for a high powered scope to wack foxes out here and this thing really fit the bill. I payed $105. I had a whole review written up for it but it was deleted by someone else in the house :rolleyes:
1/8th inch click adjustments with a 1 inch tube.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=334250
http://www.bsaoptics.com/
For a dirt cheap scope that gets the job done this one has been working great. we were shooting bottle caps at 100 meters the other day. If your going to paint it camo then the silver doesnt matter. there are matte options as well.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe96%2Fiseemetoo%2FP1040071.jpg&hash=6aa88e057ca118645645ec86de6fc57393119ef3)
Cavela's doesn't carry the Contender but they do have the Mil-Dot in 4-16x w/40mm objective lens and a mil-dot reticle for $120. . .which is about $30 cheaper than the Cabela's Tactical. . .that would basically get me the rings and a scope for the price of just the scope for the Tactical. . .BSA also has a Sweet .223 that is the same type deal as the Tactical, but for .223 only. . .that one is $100 for a 3-12x. . .
things to keep in mind when I run down there tomorrow. . .
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Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2009, 04:29:18 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on January 22, 2009, 04:41:27 PM
Post by: JoshT on January 22, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Don’t get me wrong man… I shoot a ballistic plex or turrets on my rifles… but me, and the guys I hunt with… are 20 years in the game. I love long range shooting and hunting, and have a rifle built for that purpose… but, I shot a .25-06 wearing a 3-9 Leupold for the first 10 or so years I hunted coyotes hard. I still think a guy could rule the world with a flat shooting rifle (of pretty much any caliber) wearing a 3-9.
A fixed 4x Weaver wouldn’t be too bad either… and they’re only $129. I know magnification is nice… but if you’re limiting your shots to 200-300 yards… you won’t be giving up much. I’d much rather spend the dough on substance than trinkets… basic 3-9 or 4x… Weaver, Nikon, Burris… whatever… I just wouldn’t go to something with trick turrets and reticles. That day will come… but let’s go shoot some dogs first.
Post by: jackelope on January 22, 2009, 04:46:44 PM
listen to the guy now.
buy a leupold vx1 for $200 or so...or you can find a used vxII for the same money give or take a couple bucks and learn to hunt/shoot coyotes.
quit worrying about trying to look cool.
oh and learn to shoot without relying on the rangefinder IMO.
Post by: wastickslinger on January 22, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
Have you looked throught the Cabelas scope? I almost bought one the other day, until I looked through it. It wasnt just me, 509er agreed that it was night and day between the cabelas scope and Leupold VXI. :twocents:
Dont rush it and save money now only to spend more in the long run.
Post by: PolarBear on January 22, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
Post by: EastWaViking on January 22, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
Post by: gasman on January 22, 2009, 06:43:36 PM
Check it out, you will not be disappointed.
Sportsmens Warehouse and oter sporing goods stores carrys them also, so you dont need to all the way to Cabelas.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
I've seen the BDC reticle before and I like it. . .
Post by: GEARHEAD on January 22, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
show me the yote thats gonna let ya range it and turn your dials, for wind and elevation, and i'll take a day off work. if you see one driving its funny how they don't seem to give a damn about you, but the moment they see that brake light, they are gone in a moment. using that computer in your head will be your fastest means of determining range and wind deflection, a simple cross hair is all you need.
if you are calling yotes, well.... they will be well under your MPBR anyways, and you may find that even 3 power is too much when that yote hits a dip 75 yards infront of you, and now he's going to pop up beside you at 25 yards.
if 250 is your price, gotta go with the Rifleman, spend the change on shooting stix. if your not using a bipod and or stix, your shooting air. Best of luck to ya!
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 23, 2009, 06:19:48 AM
. . .I have not looked through a Cabela's scope, but I also just found a really good deal on a quality used scope that I can afford so that's gonna take care of the scope. . .
. . .I know I won't have time to touch dials but I do need to get better at judging ranges. . .so I would use a range finder to range landmarks ahead of time so that I can start to get a more accurate feel for what ranges really are. . .that's all I meant about the range finder. . .
. . .and yeah I'm a little excited. . .like I said where I grew up I didn't have this many opportunities or the freedom to use a high power centerfire rifle so I'm a little excited!!!
but thank you for keeping me in line and not letting me get too far ahead of myself. . .as far as the dogs up close. . .well that's what my trusty Remington 870 Super Mag with a 3.5" load of #4 buckshot is for!!! I can drop them out to 75 yards with the right choke with that bad mama jamma!!!
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