Post by: nickrj11 on November 10, 2015, 10:44:04 AM
Post by: 2labs on November 10, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
Post by: nickrj11 on November 10, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Post by: nickrj11 on November 10, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
Need to buy better tires. Don't blame Weyerhaeuser for flat tires.
So what would you suggest? I had BF Goodrich KO2's put on over the summer. Seen three different brands all with flats. 2 still had really good tread. You think that 4 flat tires on 3 different rigs in less than 2 weeks on the same stretch of road is just because of bad tires?
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2015, 11:08:23 AM
Weyco builds roads for their operations not ours :tup:
Kind of surprised to hear about the Nittos. Must have had them soft :dunno: As far as the Toyos and BFGs...yeah we'll just say I am not surprised haha.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Post by: headshot5 on November 10, 2015, 11:10:58 AM
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Weyco builds roads for their operations not ours
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Post by: nickrj11 on November 10, 2015, 11:13:12 AM
Post by: 2labs on November 10, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
Need to buy better tires. Don't blame Weyerhaeuser for flat tires.
Your like baiting kittens. Could of wrote that post for ya. :chuckle:
Post by: nickrj11 on November 10, 2015, 11:18:07 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 11:20:19 AM
Need to buy better tires. Don't blame Weyerhaeuser for flat tires.
So what would you suggest? I had BF Goodrich KO2's put on over the summer. Seen three different brands all with flats. 2 still had really good tread. You think that 4 flat tires on 3 different rigs in less than 2 weeks on the same stretch of road is just because of bad tires?
I've got about 35,000 miles on my Cooper Discoverer ATR tires, which I've had on my Silverado for 6 years. Many of those miles were on Weyerhaeuser roads. These tires were relatively inexpensive, if I remember correctly, $540 out the door at Discount Tire. Never once have I had a flat with these tires. However, they are a Load Range E, and I believe that's why they have done so well.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on November 10, 2015, 02:38:47 PM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2015, 02:57:51 PM
I had brand new tires and got a flat as well. *censored*ty rock they layed down
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That's unfortunate, what kind of tires? I'd be more interested in what kind they were than how new they were.
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
Yes I have been concerned when driving on that kind of rock, never got a flat but it always makes me nervous. But still, I'd never think about blaming the timber company if I did get a flat tire. If you don't think your tires can handle it, stay off those roads!
This is one of the reasons the free access is going away.
Post by: Bob33 on November 10, 2015, 03:50:08 PM
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Post by: nocken n notchen on November 10, 2015, 04:14:34 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 04:21:32 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 10, 2015, 05:03:14 PM
Fine to warn others but don't try to blame the timber company. This is not an uncommon type of road on any of Weyerhaeuser's tree farms, or any other timber company, and even DNR land.
I agree.
Lots of tire poppers in the CF when they make new roads or improve old ones.
Post by: steelhead13 on November 10, 2015, 05:08:53 PM
Post by: lamrith on November 10, 2015, 05:11:19 PM
I am sure there is a typical "weyerhauser road" that is made up of rock as many have mentioned and they require a tire in decent condition. Maybe this one road or section is worse than others and hence the issue given that we have now had numerous people post that they had an issue there some with tires <1yr old? Makes me think it is more than a tire condition issue is all. We could all have driven thousands of miles on weye roads and no issue, but have not driven that specific section which has a problem...
Post by: Bullkllr on November 10, 2015, 05:22:05 PM
Did have a couple blowouts on the same daya few years ago on the DNR part of Toutle. Used my spare and then like 4 cans of Fix-A-Flat to get home. Fun day.
Deflating tires a bit from proper highway psi might help.
Post by: nickrj11 on November 11, 2015, 07:21:22 AM
Fine to warn others but don't try to blame the timber company. This is not an uncommon type of road on any of Weyerhaeuser's tree farms, or any other timber company, and even DNR land.
I think you might think differently when you saw the road I was mentioning. However, as stated earlier this was more of a warning to others hunting the area because I have assisted multiple people with flats on this one section of road. And as you have said, I have hunted Weyco land since I was 9 years old and have never seen someone with a flat. I know they will usually put this large rock down on roads but this road is a whole other monster. No one is blaming Weyco. It is frustrating yes but I am not scolding Weyco for it. Also, I think that the amount of folks getting flats in this one area is a very alarming amount for it to just be bad tires or Weyerhaeuser's "typical" or "common" road.
Post by: nickrj11 on November 11, 2015, 07:21:55 AM
No dog in this fight as I am not pay to play..:yeah:
I am sure there is a typical "weyerhauser road" that is made up of rock as many have mentioned and they require a tire in decent condition. Maybe this one road or section is worse than others and hence the issue given that we have now had numerous people post that they had an issue there some with tires <1yr old? Makes me think it is more than a tire condition issue is all. We could all have driven thousands of miles on weye roads and no issue, but have not driven that specific section which has a problem...
Post by: Bob33 on November 11, 2015, 07:58:51 AM
No one is blaming Weyco.Yes, they are. Read the other posts.
Post by: eldplanko on November 11, 2015, 08:27:30 AM
I was in about 15 miles one day, drove to a landing to the top of a ridge. My kid hops out and says "dad what's that hissing sound." Sure enough big crushed rock (think 4"-) had cut a puncture in the tire. I had just taken the jack out they day before and forgot to it back in. No cell service, I had a ham radio just in case, but didn't use it. We hopped back in the rig, and hauled out of there as fast as I've ever done so (40+ down to the mainline, 70+ back to the gate). I figured I had to get out of the locked gate before the tire got down to the rim). Finally got to a county road with cell service, parked it and called AAA.
Moral of the story, we're usually well prepared when out walking around with our pack and stuff… don't forget the same goes fore driving into where we want to go. Now I always carry jack, spare, cb radio, ham radio programmed for repeater towers in the area, chainsaw, chains, winch.
Post by: Mike450r on November 11, 2015, 08:36:53 AM
Post by: rackattack on November 11, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Get yourself some 10 ply tires and you'll be good to go.
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 09:06:52 AM
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Post by: Screaminreelz on November 11, 2015, 09:26:51 AM
Well went in on Saturday and heard quite a few gunshots in the morning but our hunting day was cut short. Came across a gentleman named Bruce who had gotten a flat tire and did not have a spare because he had gotten a flat a day prior in the Winston unit. So we headed up to get a cell signal so we could call his family and get him the help he needed so they would make it out safely. Thats what we hunters do for each other. Now, normally a flat tire in the woods is just one of those risks we take. On this particular location, however, I disagree. Weyerhaeuser has laid very large and sharp shale rock on the 1100 mainline that is a nightmare for tires. I have only gone into Winston 3 times this year, we have seen 4 people with flats on this same section of road. Bruce was on the corner of the 1100 and the 2568. Ridiculous! Used to be such a great area with so many elk but now I'm afraid to even drive it! Any other recreation access pass holders for the St. Helens Tree Farm experience this in the Winston unit?
That was my father in law and I was the one headed up with the new tire. I really want to thank you guys for stopping in and offering help. I got to him at about 12:15 and had him back on the road by 12:45 with the help of another couple guys who just happened to have a floor jack. Makes a world of difference using one of those instead of them bottle jacks. Gentleman thank you and best wishes for a successful season!
Post by: nickrj11 on November 11, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
Well went in on Saturday and heard quite a few gunshots in the morning but our hunting day was cut short. Came across a gentleman named Bruce who had gotten a flat tire and did not have a spare because he had gotten a flat a day prior in the Winston unit. So we headed up to get a cell signal so we could call his family and get him the help he needed so they would make it out safely. Thats what we hunters do for each other. Now, normally a flat tire in the woods is just one of those risks we take. On this particular location, however, I disagree. Weyerhaeuser has laid very large and sharp shale rock on the 1100 mainline that is a nightmare for tires. I have only gone into Winston 3 times this year, we have seen 4 people with flats on this same section of road. Bruce was on the corner of the 1100 and the 2568. Ridiculous! Used to be such a great area with so many elk but now I'm afraid to even drive it! Any other recreation access pass holders for the St. Helens Tree Farm experience this in the Winston unit?
That was my father in law and I was the one headed up with the new tire. I really want to thank you guys for stopping in and offering help. I got to him at about 12:15 and had him back on the road by 12:45 with the help of another couple guys who just happened to have a floor jack. Makes a world of difference using one of those instead of them bottle jacks. Gentleman thank you and best wishes for a successful season!
Awesome! Glad to hear they got out ok. My girlfriend and I were the folks in the blue chevy Colorado. We got a cell signal down the road and called I believe her name was Marcy?
Post by: Screaminreelz on November 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
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Post by: Thehowler on November 11, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
820.10 at all discount tires. Called 4 of the shops, one offered me a 50.00 visa card if I purchased my last set of tires from them. Bought my tires from that shop.
Les Swabb was 198.00 more for the set. I called two stores.
Post by: Thehowler on November 11, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
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Post by: lamrith on November 12, 2015, 07:49:04 AM
Forgot to mention, Les schwabby boys sell on commission.That explains allot, I always though it was funny how a simple brake job always requires new calipers and rotors...
Post by: Chesapeake on November 16, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
Very often we'd run around with 2 to 4 spares, a pug kit, and compressor in the rig. And that was running 10ply Coopers with a steel ply. Now days its hard to find a good 10 ply tire with a steel ply. All the tires say "x ply rated" and they class them by Load Range and don't like to tell you the details about the plies and construction and use fabric rather than steel.
Post by: HntnFsh on November 16, 2015, 05:41:56 PM
Forgot to mention, Les schwabby boys sell on commission.That explains allot, I always though it was funny how a simple brake job always requires new calipers and rotors...
No that doesn't explain it all. What explains that is our sue happy society and this thing called liability.
Post by: shadowless_nite on November 16, 2015, 09:01:30 PM
I never once blamed or thought to blame whoever said road it was. Just assumed the risks of being off-road. Part of it was my lack of knowledge since I just started hunting and driving off-road. I grew up with parents that never left the pavement and didn't know any better. I didn't pay close attention to road type and would drive on the loose packed new gravel, spin tires up a hill,run right over pot holes etc.... Needless to say I flip the 4wd switch up grades with loose rock so I don't chew up the tires or slice one, avoid pot holes means no spilled drinks and try and stay on the well packed stuff.