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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: predatorG on November 10, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
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I'm sure not a ton of people go hunting for just cougars but I was wondering if those who do have any good tips.
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I'm sure not a ton of people go hunting for just cougars but I was wondering if those who do have any good tips.
Fresh snow is your best friend.
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Showing signs of being a good year for the 4 legged kind! Don't jinx it, but there just might be some tracking snow sooner than later!!!
Call with vocals!
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I've got a trail cam soaking on a pile of kibbles and bits. Can't wait to check out all the photos. Boo-yeah!!
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http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop
I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.
It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast. I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late. I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.
Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in. You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression. The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.
It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think. The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough. I don't think I've been busted by smell alone. Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.
Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.
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Our cougar depredation guy here in Republic says, the very best time too get a cat is in a snowstorm...
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I just seen another one last night, it baled over a bridge. I should see how far it leapt down maybe it's shattered on the rocks below.
That makes almost a dozen this year.
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I just seen another one last night, it baled over a bridge. I should see how far it leapt down maybe it's shattered on the rocks below.
That makes almost a dozen this year.
Dang that's a ton of cougars whereabouts are you I would love to see one.
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The NE corner
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Showing signs of being a good year for the 4 legged kind! Don't jinx it, but there just might be some tracking snow sooner than later!!!
Call with vocals!
Contact whistle or coug in heat screaming noise?? Do you use the two together, and if so how?
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The NE corner
We do seem to have more than our fair share here. http://www.elknutforums.com/Hunting/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4840&p=65287#p65287
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Showing signs of being a good year for the 4 legged kind! Don't jinx it, but there just might be some tracking snow sooner than later!!!
Call with vocals!
Contact whistle or coug in heat screaming noise?? Do you use the two together, and if so how?
I called for a lion with distress calls then switched to whistle, the dang thing whistled it's head off at me in return but didn't come in for a shot.
I haven't gotten the lion vocals figured out, so not sure if I was busted or if it was scared to encounter a bigger lion..it kept it's distance I couldn't get an eye on it.
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Showing signs of being a good year for the 4 legged kind! Don't jinx it, but there just might be some tracking snow sooner than later!!!
Call with vocals!
Contact whistle or coug in heat screaming noise?? Do you use the two together, and if so how?
I called for a lion with distress calls then switched to whistle, the dang thing whistled it's head off at me in return but didn't come in for a shot.
I haven't gotten the lion vocals figured out, so not sure if I was busted or if it was scared to encounter a bigger lion..it kept it's distance I couldn't get an eye on it.
Hmm, maybe in that situation, if somebody could keep the whistles going sporadically, a partner could try to circle downwind of the lion and get a shot.
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http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop
I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.
It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast. I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late. I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.
Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in. You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression. The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.
It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think. The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough. I don't think I've been busted by smell alone. Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.
Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.
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I've had 2 call ins this year sofar. First one was 3 cats (2young and one adult) all where vocal. Came in threw thick cover never leaving it. Stay very still. I like to call up hill. They like to approach with an advantage and from my experience they won't break cover unless they feel that advantage, ex specially mature cats. Rainshadows a vocals are great. I've made some of my own too,also learned to use my voice. I like deer or fawn distress mixed with cougar vocals. I prefer submissive vocals and low key. I want that big tom to feel like he came take what he wants. I also hide the call. Thick brush is a must. I like to set it up so the cat has to come to an opening to get a close look at the call were I can see him. But I also want him to feel like he has the upper hand. DO NOT MOVE! Decoys are a waste of time, weight,and money. Need a silent approach threw good cover. Snow is a big help not only for finding cats but for seeing them aswell. I like having a pistol in my lap while on stand. Do not move! Stay still! Even a glance at the remote can get you busted! I mark every cougar track I find on gps, every toilet, every scrape, every kill I find. Over time you can see the higher traffic areas and learn we're to call before you get to calling. All year long I'm looking for that one track. If I find tracks in the snow (fresh snow) I'll track till I think I'm close then call, save those tracks on the gps too. Hold still! Calling cougar is very addictive and not very productive as other predators but IMO more rewarding. If you live where deer migrate follow the deer cause the cats will too. Have called them in with elk vocals as well.
DO NOT MOVE!!
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Wow, lots of good info here. I'm planning on giving this a try this year. One question for you guys that do this regularly, have you ever tried to climb up into a tree or something to get a little elevation in order to see into the think stuff a little better? I've had success doing this with coyotes in the thick stuff. I've only been busted once, I believe because my silhouette wasn't broken up enough. The coyote didn't see me until he was 20 yards out, so close enough for a shot. Just curious if you think this tactic would be effective?
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If you could do it silently it could help. I've thought about using a tree stand but you would prob need to pre hang it to not get busted.
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Exactly, I've found that a tree stand you carry in with you is just too much commotion.
Same problem for circling around on a vocalizing cat. I've seen it work on coyotes, and I've had a Cougar vocalizing enough to make me want to try an end run, but there's just no way you're getting around it without being seen!
(Still looking for call-in stories to add to the website! Let me know if any of you guys have one!)
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I think you already have few of mine up Steve except maybe this one
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,183485.0.html
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If you could do it silently it could help. I've thought about using a tree stand but you would prob need to pre hang it to not get busted.
Thanks for the response. I wasn't thinking a tree stand, more just get up 3 to 4 feet higher, so im not looking just into the brush in front of me but looking through it (if that makes sense).
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If you could do it silently it could help. I've thought about using a tree stand but you would prob need to pre hang it to not get busted.
Thanks for the response. I wasn't thinking a tree stand, more just get up 3 to 4 feet higher, so im not looking just into the brush in front of me but looking through it (if that makes sense).
i get what your saying. Personally I prefer to call facing up hill. So my area is all above me. I think if you where sitting on a branch you movement would be multiplied cause every tiny move you make will move the branch too. Me I'm a big guy, not built for climbing trees lol so go me it could be dangerous with out a tree stand. I like to keep it simple. But if your the kind of guy that can shimy up a tree lickedy split by all means try it. Could even make the cougar believe it is another cat in that tree but remember that cat won't come in if he feels you have the upper hand
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Thanks again for the information/advise. Im planning on doing this, focusing on cougars, once I get back from Idaho at the end of the month. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Im gona give it a try as well. I think i will be content whacking coyotes bobcats and a cougar... It looks like snow may be our friend this year.
Has anyone tried a Tree saddle or Guidos web? With the tree stands was it the noise or the movement that fouled the hunt?
http://guidosoutdoors.com/index.php/ordering
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Whatta about taking a ground blind with you and setting it up and sitting in in when calling or would that be to obvious for a cat
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A ground blind can work. I've seen handheld photos/video to prove it. Better if it's set up for a long period of time, but I would use one before a treestand just because of noise and etc. getting it installed.
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Here for the info thanks guys
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I've got a top of the line summit climber I thought I'd use for cats, but it sits at home. Haven't figured out how to get it up the tree in total silence, which is what's required for calling cats. It'll take me a long time to sneak into a call spot. I can knock out 3-4 times as many coyote stands in a day as I can cat stands, with cat stands you need to assume that the cat your hunting is up there in the rocks above watching/listening the floor below for it's next prey, and it's hunting deer - pretty easy to spot a guy packing in a tree stand and calling equipment :chuckle:
Also cats do most of their moving at night so during the day it might be up there sleeping off a belly full of venison, hopefully it's between kills and wouldn't mind something close and easy...
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I just prefer to go light. Easier to be quiet and slip in UN seen or heard with just what you need. Plus you may have to improvise instead of sit in your spot and go threw the motions. What happens if your headed to your spot and you see fresh tracks going out of the drainage? To many variables. Just keep it simple.
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Yup, I just carry the Foxpro + remote plus a few survival things in a single backpack. I also got me a nice thick turkey hunting seat and gun bi-pod sticks.
I don't even use binos once the calling starts, because then your moving! Instead just take a mental note of every bump, stump, dark spot and object out there, glass them ahead of time so you know what they are.
once the calling starts scan with your eyeballs for a new bump, stump, dark spot or object out there then glass it with your scope, because it's probably a cat!
I had a new dark spot show up and was hemming and hawing about putting the scope on it because I wasn't sure if it was there before or not, in the back of my mind it was just a spot I had seen and forgot about, didn't look like much. I was second guessing it... Finally that small dark spot unfolded itself and turned into a monster cat and was gone before I could put glass on it.
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"I had a new dark spot show up and was hemming and hawing about putting the scope on it because I wasn't sure if it was there before or not, in the back of my mind it was just a spot I had seen and forgot about, didn't look like much. I was second guessing it... Finally that small dark spot unfolded itself and turned into a monster cat and was gone before I could put glass on it."
And that is how you get addicted to calling lions!
I don't glass after the caller starts either. Most times I'm packing my shotgun. After my first cougar harvest I want then in close! I like to call in the super thick stuff! I keep the call around 20-40 yards away as long as it will put the cat to where I can see it. Team calling can be very exciting. Often I sit close to the call and my friend sets up high above watching with the rifle. I use a camo fleece blanket to hide under with my shotgun shouldered underneath. I quit doing this method by my self though when I had a cat sit on the rock i was seated against. I could hear it plop on to the rock and could hear it breathing/panting, after a moment I decided I should spin around fast as I could to try to take the shot but as I spun to shoot it jumped about 6' up and back and I never got the shot. Was a young cat that I prob would not have taken if I had seen it in the sights. Could have gone bad real quick so I avoid that unless I got my back up shooter up above. Also why I recommend the pistol in the lap
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I'd have to have a lot of trust for someone to shoot a cat sitting just over my shoulder :chuckle:
"hold still while I shoot this apple off your head"
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I'd have to have a lot of trust for someone to shoot a cat sitting just over my shoulder :chuckle:
"hold still while I shoot this apple off your head"
:chuckle: hopfully he sees it long before its over my shoulder. The way we plan it he shoots if the cat hangs up or as it's leaving. In turn he gets to sit up above the action while I run the call. He dosent have to even move a mussel sept his eyes. While I sit in the thick stuff running the call from my hiddy hole allowing me a little more movement ( hand running the call) hasn't worked out yet but he gets to hunt my spots with out having to do the leg work,and I get a little back up in case it hits the fan or the cat hangs up above my view or out of range.
So far all my call ins have been solo trips but one. When I called in the 3 cats I was with my friend Jackey, the day I learned to always check my battery's we were scouting for her elk hunt and I was after bear when we found a fresh track. Setup to call and ecaller was dead. So I used a hand call :bdid: when the first 2 cats started whistling every time I did I got excited. I was focused on the whistles,then we got the gargle cough from a diffrent cat that was 30-40 yards away and we couldn't see it. She was frozen in fear( I just thought she was doing great at sitting still) she says the older cat came in from below us and moved over to where we heard the gargle cough. If my ecaller had worked I'd bet we would have at least gotten a visual but with a hand call all eyes were on me.
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http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop
I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.
It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast. I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late. I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.
Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in. You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression. The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.
It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think. The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough. I don't think I've been busted by smell alone. Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.
Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.
Listened to some of this last night. The guy talked about how you should watch cats because they all act the same (house cats, bobcats, cougars). So today for a bit of practice I called in my cat. It was actually a ton of fun to play with her.
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http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop
I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.
It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast. I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late. I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.
Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in. You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression. The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.
It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think. The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough. I don't think I've been busted by smell alone. Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.
Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.
Listened to some of this last night. The guy talked about how you should watch cats because they all act the same (house cats, bobcats, cougars). So today for a bit of practice I called in my cat. It was actually a ton of fun to play with her.
I do that too. It is fun. Try it on feral cats, little tougher to call. My friend Jackey lives next to a hay field and there are some barn cats that hunt it after dark. When I go out for a smoke I like to turn on my hat light and lip squeak one in as close as I can. Sofar I haven't gotten them to cross the fence but I did call in a double once :chuckle: some times they just make a b-line straight at me but most like to stalk in slow. Some will just sit and stare my way. I bet if I added a laser pointer to my gear I could get them to cross the fence
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I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....
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I'm going to add a powerful laser pointer to my lion calling setup :tup:
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I'm going to add a powerful laser pointer to my lion calling setup :tup:
:chuckle: oh ya that's going to make for an exciting hunt :tup: maybe even get one that comes with the screw on caps that project a critter of some sort :chuckle:
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I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....
Same. It's almost too close of quarters to feel safe.
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I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....
Same. It's almost too close of quarters to feel safe.
I'm over in Sequim. Same here. You know they're here, so you just have to make do. One thing I end up doing, especially by myself, is to set up with a natural barrier to the rear. They'll avoid it, making them go around you. They're not too dangerous! (Yet! Wait til they get toooo overpopulated!)
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
Was wondering the same thing
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Best piece of cougar advice I can give,
Buy her a few drinks and compliment her beauty :tup:
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
i don't know about 50/50 but it has been done before. I have tried it my self but have not been successful yet. Prepare to walk a long ways and threw some nasty stuff. They don't seem to care how thick or how steep it is they just wonder up and down like its nothing. Found some tracks on a blow down yesterday but I'm thing young cougar or tom bobcat. Had to tell cause the cat was slipping as it walked. Snow was starting to melt and the trees where dripping like crazy so I lost the tracks quickly.
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how is this for a call in story?
A Washington bowhunter went through 18 lives with one arrow on Monday when he bagged two mountain lions at the same time.
Ben Hendrickson, 36, of Spokane and his friend Rod Noah, 58, of Chattaroy had been hunting the woods of Pend Oreille County for elk when the cat fluke occurred.
The two had been hunting elk for several days with little luck. That situation changed Monday evening when Noah called in what he thought was a deer.
“I was nearby, but Rod was doing the calling, so they were homed in on him,” Hendrickson told the Spokesman-Review. When the “deer” raised its tail, Noah immediately recognized it as a cougar. With a lion tag in his pocket, Noah took the 32-yard shot. “I’ve never even seen a mountain lion in the wild,” Noah said. “I didn’t hesitate at the chance.” Noah took the animal with a broadside shot. Then he waited.
“Heck, I needed a few minutes to get my heart rate down,” Noah said. Despite the adrenaline rush, Noah knew his shot was good. “I was using a lighted nock and it looked like a flare going right behind its front leg,” he said. “The lion jumped and crashed through brush out of sight down the hill, but I knew I’d smacked him hard.”
The two men followed the blood trail even though they were both sure the lion went in the opposite direction. “I thought the lion had gone left, but a blood trail doesn’t lie, so we followed it straight down the hill,” Noah said.
Once they found the animal the two called a taxidermist who instructed them to bring the animal in immediately for skinning. As the two were dragging the cat up the hill Hendrickson noted that the wound on the animal didn’t match the shot he’d seen Noah take.
“We look at the cat and the wound is right in the middle of his chest,” Noah explained. “I said, ‘That’s not right.’” The men went back to the site where the cat was shot only to find another dead catamount not 15 yards from where it had been shot. That’s right. Noah unknowingly shot two cougars with one arrow.
“He hit both cougars with one shot and they ran a short way and died almost right next to each other,” Hendrickson said. This revelation presented a problem though as hunters are only allowed one lion per season. Hendrickson admits his first thought wasn’t very honest. “I had a tag and the first thought was for me to just tag it and that’s that,” he said. “But then we wouldn’t be able to tell the story, which is too amazing.”
The men called the authorities. “So we called the game warden,” Noah said. “I didn’t know how it was going down, but we figured that was the right thing to do.”
Washington Fish and Wildlife Department officer Severin Erickson arrived on scene in less than an hour, listed to the men’s story, then gave his seal of approval.
“Their story all checked out,” Severin said. “Technically, it would be double-bagging – two cougars with one arrow – but it was an honest mistake. Legally, they’re required to check in with us and they did. Officers have discretion in these cases. I had to give him a warning, but there was no citation.”
Honesty is always the best policy.
Congratulations, Noah. That was a one-in-a-million shot.
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Oh sorry I missed this.
I was just being funny, it was in reference to house cats chasing around laser pointers and the seminar I linked earlier talking about watching house cats to see how lions might act.
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
I haven't done this myself, but there are a few guys around here that do and are successful. Dale has mentioned this before too as he knows of a guy doing just that.
I followed one for 5 miles but never found the end of the trail, I wasn't hunting cat at the time and started the trail too late in the day to follow it all the way out. Need to start O'Dark 30 and follow it into daybreak. If there is a series of roads try to jump ahead and pick up the trail again, circle until you know it's in the area then head in after it.
If you get on it and know it's just ahead but can't get a shot and you're bumping it over and over you could try to bum rush it barking like a dog at it, make a crap ton of racket it might go up a tree.
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Tagging. Good info here
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
i don't know about 50/50 but it has been done before. I have tried it my self but have not been successful yet. Prepare to walk a long ways and threw some nasty stuff. They don't seem to care how thick or how steep it is they just wonder up and down like its nothing. Found some tracks on a blow down yesterday but I'm thing young cougar or tom bobcat. Had to tell cause the cat was slipping as it walked. Snow was starting to melt and the trees where dripping like crazy so I lost the tracks quickly.
Those tracks look a little too old for me to start following.
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
i don't know about 50/50 but it has been done before. I have tried it my self but have not been successful yet. Prepare to walk a long ways and threw some nasty stuff. They don't seem to care how thick or how steep it is they just wonder up and down like its nothing. Found some tracks on a blow down yesterday but I'm thing young cougar or tom bobcat. Had to tell cause the cat was slipping as it walked. Snow was starting to melt and the trees where dripping like crazy so I lost the tracks quickly.
Those tracks look a little too old for me to start following.
i follow just about every cat track I come across. Dosent mater how old. Like said before you find an area the cat travels often you find a good cat spot for life. After following a lot of tracks you will see the trends.
There is a cougar article in my last predator extreme about cougar hunting with hounds but in the article he mentions how he takes big mature toms in the same areas every year.
You find a great area and take a mature tom be it bobcat or cougar an other mature tom will move in and use those same trails, bedding areas and hunting areas. Find an area like that and you have the chance to take a mature tom every year
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good point on scouting
I was thinking to walk one down I'd look for a fresher track
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
i don't know about 50/50 but it has been done before. I have tried it my self but have not been successful yet. Prepare to walk a long ways and threw some nasty stuff. They don't seem to care how thick or how steep it is they just wonder up and down like its nothing. Found some tracks on a blow down yesterday but I'm thing young cougar or tom bobcat. Had to tell cause the cat was slipping as it walked. Snow was starting to melt and the trees where dripping like crazy so I lost the tracks quickly.
Those tracks look a little too old for me to start following.
i follow just about every cat track I come across. Dosent mater how old. Like said before you find an area the cat travels often you find a good cat spot for life. After following a lot of tracks you will see the trends.
There is a cougar article in my last predator extreme about cougar hunting with hounds but in the article he mentions how he takes big mature toms in the same areas every year.
You find a great area and take a mature tom be it bobcat or cougar an other mature tom will move in and use those same trails, bedding areas and hunting areas. Find an area like that and you have the chance to take a mature tom every year
Since they are an ambush predator i would imagine terrain and deer habits make a specific area very fruitful.
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
i don't know about 50/50 but it has been done before. I have tried it my self but have not been successful yet. Prepare to walk a long ways and threw some nasty stuff. They don't seem to care how thick or how steep it is they just wonder up and down like its nothing. Found some tracks on a blow down yesterday but I'm thing young cougar or tom bobcat. Had to tell cause the cat was slipping as it walked. Snow was starting to melt and the trees where dripping like crazy so I lost the tracks quickly.
Those tracks look a little too old for me to start following.
i follow just about every cat track I come across. Dosent mater how old. Like said before you find an area the cat travels often you find a good cat spot for life. After following a lot of tracks you will see the trends.
There is a cougar article in my last predator extreme about cougar hunting with hounds but in the article he mentions how he takes big mature toms in the same areas every year.
You find a great area and take a mature tom be it bobcat or cougar an other mature tom will move in and use those same trails, bedding areas and hunting areas. Find an area like that and you have the chance to take a mature tom every year
Since they are an ambush predator i would imagine terrain and deer habits make a specific area very fruitful.
exactly! You find those areas with the best habitat your going to find the boss cat for the area, and if you kill that cat a new boss cat will move in. It's like the grizzly's catching salmon. The boss gets the the best spot. But when he moves on number two takes his spot.
Many of us already know great cougar spots. We just don't know it as a cougar spot. All areas that hold any abundance of deer or elk also hold big cats! Many of us know areas that at certain times of the year have more deer or elk than normal. You can bet your last buck that any area with a large number of deer or elk hold big toms durning the time that area holds the abundance of game. Winter is the best time to hunt cougar. It's also the time of year deer and elk move to winter areas and those areas that have a lot of game in a smaller area than other times of the year are the areas you want to focus on. Find some winter grounds and scout it year round. Learn all the trails and hiding spots. When winter comes it will make finding those cat tracks much easier. That cat is going to be checking and hunting those game herds.
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When it snows im gona hit the roads and woods for certain this year!
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I know that on a few ranches they would like to come out on sunny days and lay on the hay bales. I wonder if slash piles would be similar enough? Anyone see westside cats laying up in the slash?
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Not a cougar expert but if I was going to call one I would wait for snow or hunt areas with snow ...find some tracks and move in on him before calling ...or just follow the tracks and pray you get lucky ...
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I know that on a few ranches they would like to come out on sunny days and lay on the hay bales. I wonder if slash piles would be similar enough? Anyone see westside cats laying up in the slash?
i found a cougar kill on top a slash pile before in 113
This head and most of the rest of the bones where found on top the slash pile. Cougar scrape was found 50ish yards from there and tracks found little farther than that. Found this in 2014 and came back this year to see if it was still there. Looked like more fresher bones had joined the old bones up top. I'll be checking it again this winter when I call up there. This is a big game winter range area
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
one of your best bets would be to cut a track walk it up till you think your are somewhat close, set up and try to call him to you. Just be more patient then we were last year! We did a set on some tracks last year called till we were bored (not long enough) went and food another set in the next canyon, came back only to find take 100 yards from our first set that walked right by my truck! Just didn't set long enough. Patients is the key, which I don't have :chuckle:
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Snow coming Tuesday morning in the ne. Looking forward the calling
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
one of your best bets would be to cut a track walk it up till you think your are somewhat close, set up and try to call him to you. Just be more patient then we were last year! We did a set on some tracks last year called till we were bored (not long enough) went and food another set in the next canyon, came back only to find take 100 yards from our first set that walked right by my truck! Just didn't set long enough. Patients is the key, which I don't have :chuckle:
My cold stands average 90min... hot stands have gone 3 hours!
(However, I've called in cats from 1hr 10min, to 2min!)
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Sounds like I'm gonna have a full schedule if I bag a deer and have some free time in December! Not alot of snow that falls here in the lowlands though...
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Found some tracks wed. Couldn't follow cause I was helping a friend with her archery tag. Found tracks on this trail 3 years in a row right after late mf deer is over
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Oops forgot the pics
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looks like a female lion :tup:
I'd still call her, we got so many lions in WA we ought to have multiple tags instead of small quota's.
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Decided its too damn cold to do my sit and wait tactic for late arch elk, so about 6am im going to be hiking behind a closed gate to try to cut fresh lion tracks. Tagging a lion is my sole focus for the rest of the year. What i SHOULD be doing is trying to call one in here at home. Just checked a cam behind my house and there was a cat chasing a doe through my yard on the 20th. Something like 10 instances of lions on cam on my property since july. At least 6 or 7 different cats, if you count the two cubs following their momma.
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Sounds like you got a spot to call off your porch
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looks like a female lion :tup:
I'd still call her, we got so many lions in WA we ought to have multiple tags instead of small quota's.
Coild be a small male :dunno:
I find avton of lion tracks every winter, but ive only found one set of tracks that were 100% inarguably a huge tom. They were far far bigger than any other set ive seen, and i sometimes find 4 or 5 diff sets in a day of riding after a fresh snow. Seeing cat tracks that big was just weird. Makes you feel pretty far down on the food chain kinda. Id be hard pressed to think of more than a few sets of bear tracks ive ever seen that were that big. Looked like somebodys siberian tiger got loose or something. I should have followed them, they were fresh, but i had deer on the brain that morning.
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Sounds like you got a spot to call off your porch
I took my buck down to where i could see the trail the cats use from my house, gutted it there. Figured it might interest a cat a little, or at least some yotes. Thought i might take out a predator or two from the living room window while sitting next to the fire. Neighbor dog ate everything :chuckle:
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looks like a female lion :tup:
I'd still call her, we got so many lions in WA we ought to have multiple tags instead of small quota's.
ya I figured female or young tom. This spot is about 300 yards from where I took my first cougar. 134lb 8-10 year old tom that was breeding a young female I'm figuring it's her. I would agrea we should get more tags or at least raise the quotas!! Every year my areas close in January. :bash: I bet they could open it all year long and we still would not harvest the recommended 12-17%. Instead they close it at 4-6% :bash:
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looks like a female lion :tup:
I'd still call her, we got so many lions in WA we ought to have multiple tags instead of small quota's.
ya I figured female or young tom. This spot is about 300 yards from where I took my first cougar. 134lb 8-10 year old tom that was breeding a young female I'm figuring it's her. I would agrea we should get more tags or at least raise the quotas!! Every year my areas close in January. :bash: I bet they could open it all year long and we still would not harvest the recommended 12-17%. Instead they close it at 4-6% :bash:
I really doubt we ever even reach 4%. Nobody knows how many cats we have, and the estimates ive heard from wdfw are a complete joke.
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looks like a female lion :tup:
I'd still call her, we got so many lions in WA we ought to have multiple tags instead of small quota's.
ya I figured female or young tom. This spot is about 300 yards from where I took my first cougar. 134lb 8-10 year old tom that was breeding a young female I'm figuring it's her. I would agrea we should get more tags or at least raise the quotas!! Every year my areas close in January. :bash: I bet they could open it all year long and we still would not harvest the recommended 12-17%. Instead they close it at 4-6% :bash:
I really doubt we ever even reach 4%. Nobody knows how many cats we have, and the estimates ive heard from wdfw are a complete joke.
so do I. I was just using there numbers an there research study's that they don't even go by. Pretty ignorant to pay wsu to do the research on how many cougar should be taken. Then just guess how many cougar we have with asumptions on how successful boot hunters are and then only take 1/3-1/2 what the study recomends of the grossly underestimated population. And to boot they count juvie cougar that may have died any way and count those towards the quota
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Great information here.....
So one of the things that seems important is to stay on stand for a while, an hour or so and to remain absolutely still.
What are the best sounds to use on a e-caller? Rabbit in distress? Fawn in distress? I saw the earlier link to a site with lion calling info...any other good sites to learn how to do this?
Thanks in advance.
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That podcast gave a pretty good calling combination. Small animals mixed in with cougar noises.
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I like to use fawn or deer distress the most but I don't think it matters. Adding cougar vocals IMO really helps! Not only does it often get the cougar to talk exposing it's position but seems to catch their attention faster also
My rules so to speak for cougar calling
1 silent approach and set up
2 call on the freshest sign you can
3 stay still as possible!
4 hide the call well. If they can see the sound source that's where they will stop.
5 glass the area before calling, try to make out those things that look like a critter like stumps or blow downs, glass spots the cat could be napping like rocks or large trees.
6 i start with distress for 5-10 min then cougar vocals for 5-10 then distresss then vocals then more distress. Often a few periods of silence near the end or I'll just sit silent for 20 min after calling for an hour plus
7 don't be afraid to try new things, cougar calling isn't new but it's not a science yet either. Always room for that extra trick or technique that will up your odds
8 (personal prefrance) ditch the decoy. IMO it will just hang the cat up once he sees it
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Great info thanks!
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Also read threw Steve's cougar calling pages. Great info in those call in story's and a great book review page for some extra info
http://www.rain-shadow.com/prod03.htm
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I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.
I give myself a 50/50.
Am I dreaming?
I am from Washington so I follow the board. I have hunted cats unsuccessfully in South Dakota where I am stationed for the last couple of years and this seems to be the most successful method for guys taking lions here. Works best right after a decent snow (obviously) and you need a light to moderate wind to mask your movement sounds as much as possible. need to have your head on a swivel for this though, I read a story about a guy last year who pretty much tripped over a lion that was laid up in a hole right on the trail he was traveling.
I use Rainshadows products and his methods, I find a track and walk it out until I get to a point I think it is bedded down close then call. I have called a couple in but have been busted and/or cats have hung up. I really want to call one in and harvest it, the Black Hills aren't a huge area though and I think that they get educated pretty quickly to calling during the season.
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What kind of caller do you guys recommend.
Does the wildfire 2 work well it's on sale at cabelas or is it worth it to bite the bullet and buy something more expensive
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I have only owned two E-callers.
a FOXPRO Firestorm was my first and it was a decent caller.
I have used the FOXPRO Shockwave for the last few years and probably will not own anything else until mine breaks and they stop making them. I love my shockwave.
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I'm using a turbo dawg and I hate it. It works but range is short for thick cover. Sound is ok. My next call will be a shockwave.
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Well yesterday i went hiking and found a crazy amount of cougar tracks, it was ridiculous, but the snow was old and i couldnt tell if any were fresh enough to follow, so i did a couple cold calling sets with no luck. We got a little fresh snow between like midnight and 6am, so i hit the same area this morning expecting to find some smoking hot tracks. Nada. Not a single set of coug, yote or bob tracks. Pretty disappointing. Ive hiked logging roads 3 of the last 4 days, covered nearly 20 miles, and then today i get home and check a trailcam right in my back yard. Cougars on it again, last night about 645 pm. Second time in about a week. This time it was a big female with a cub that was pretty much grown. Im starting to feel kind of stupid for hiking my ass off in the mountains when ive got at least 7 different cats moving through my property on a regular basis.
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Well yesterday i went hiking and found a crazy amount of cougar tracks, it was ridiculous, but the snow was old and i couldnt tell if any were fresh enough to follow, so i did a couple cold calling sets with no luck. We got a little fresh snow between like midnight and 6am, so i hit the same area this morning expecting to find some smoking hot tracks. Nada. Not a single set of coug, yote or bob tracks. Pretty disappointing. Ive hiked logging roads 3 of the last 4 days, covered nearly 20 miles, and then today i get home and check a trailcam right in my back yard. Cougars on it again, last night about 645 pm. Second time in about a week. This time it was a big female with a cub that was pretty much grown. Im starting to feel kind of stupid for hiking my ass off in the mountains when ive got at least 7 different cats moving through my property on a regular basis.
yeah sounds like you need to do some calling at home!
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Well yesterday i went hiking and found a crazy amount of cougar tracks, it was ridiculous, but the snow was old and i couldnt tell if any were fresh enough to follow, so i did a couple cold calling sets with no luck. We got a little fresh snow between like midnight and 6am, so i hit the same area this morning expecting to find some smoking hot tracks. Nada. Not a single set of coug, yote or bob tracks. Pretty disappointing. Ive hiked logging roads 3 of the last 4 days, covered nearly 20 miles, and then today i get home and check a trailcam right in my back yard. Cougars on it again, last night about 645 pm. Second time in about a week. This time it was a big female with a cub that was pretty much grown. Im starting to feel kind of stupid for hiking my ass off in the mountains when ive got at least 7 different cats moving through my property on a regular basis.
If I had cats moving around my own place like that, I would never leave home!
As for the older tracks, if you are talking in terms of just a couple to a few days old a good tactic may be to pick the freshest looking one and walk it out anyways and look for a kill. Folks have had luck sitting on fresh kills or in some cases calling from the area.
One research study I read said that the majority of lions will bed down within 100 meters of an active kill if there is cover to bed down in. Obviously with them being that close being stealthy moving in would be key so you don't bump it out on the way in or during your set up.
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In ordering shockwave is it best to get it through all-predators or fox pro so that you can load the sounds from there list or save about 100 bucks and go through the cabelas. I ordered the rain shadow cougar package. Where do you get premade calling sequences? Which are the best? What % of the time do you use called programmed from fox pro or all predator versus custom stuff?
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A few guys I've talked to that have taken a cougar did it by finding an elk herd and then using a cow call. For some it was unintentional, they were hunting elk and trying to lure an elk in....but kitty came instead. Another guy said he was going down the road and saw a herd out in a clear cut. Then saw a cougar dart across the road, so he went to the edge of the cut and started mewing, curiosity killed the cat.
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Versions of the Elk "Mew" sound like the Cougar "Whistle"... were they coming in for the elk, or socially???? We may never know!
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This year driving on lost lake Rd seen two cougars on the side of the Rd laying in the grass got out of the truck walked right on them if I had a tag they would of been dead couldn't believe my eyes... One got up and trotted off the other took his time and walked off I was in shock to be 15feet from them both next year I will have a tag probably will never see that again :bash:
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I ordered my shockwave through allpredatorcalls so that I could customize the sounds that came with it.
In the Black hills, if you find elk, you have found cats. Not certain it is the same way up in Washington but probably is. I have never found Elk tracks here in the winter that did not have cat tracks somewhere very close and usually the cat tracks are in the elk tracks.
Edit to add this part about pre-made sequences-
I build them on the FOXPRO website using their feature (foxcast I think?) I build about 1, 90 minute sequence, starting small for the first 30 minutes... rodent distress, building up to rabbit distress, then some cat vocals. The second 30 minutes has some larger animals starting with some of the heavier sounding Jack rabbits all the way up to deer and elk distress, then ending with cat vocals. The last 30 minutes is just cat vocals starting with whistle, non threatening stuff and ending with very rough sounding cat stuff like the lion in heat etc.
once I have the whole 90 minute sequence built, I use notepad on my computer to create the 3 individual sequences and load all 4 on the caller.
so I end up with-
1 full 90 minute sequence
1 30 minute with small animals ending in cats
1 30 minute with larger animals and cat
1 30 minute of just cat
This way I can jump forward or backward in my sequence depending on the situation I am in, or I can roll the whole 90 minute sequence without having to move at all. Hope all that makes sense and helps.
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pilebuck... pretty much guaranteed.
clayton... I use my thumbs, keeps me awake!
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I don't know if this was a fluke but last Sunday I set a deer pee line trying to bring in a buck for my wife . It was the first time ever using sent for deer hunting . I loaded up a wick and also dripped it on a trail for about 50 yards . Set her up about a 100 yards away in a portable little blind with her riffle (blacktail raffle tag ) . I took my bow and headed to another spot . After about 2 hours her riffle rang out .I head over and she informs me that a large cougar came into the sent . She said it caught her a bit off guard and she may have rushed the shot . It was in the snow and it was a clean miss , I followed the tracks a ways and found no blood . Any body else try deer sent ?
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Did the cat actually come in to the scent, or was it simply following your tracks in the snow? I would bet on the latter, but haven't experimented with scents much.
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No , he came in to the scent , the trail was laid cross wind and he came in up wind .
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Very interesting. Never put much thought into scents or lures since they tend not to approach stands in a manner that would indicate wind being a factor. May just have experiment with it a bit.
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Could be the streangth of the scent played a factor as all predators use scent to some degrea but could also be that the cougar was just traveling that trail. Could be the cat has learned that deer in the breeding cycle are more vulnerable
Good observation! Couldn't hurt your stand any
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I like to get sounds off youtube vids and upload them to the foxpro.
This vid just showed up on my FB. I get a kick out of using sounds from video's that anti's would share
easy to find wolf sounds on wolf hugger web sites for instance.
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They use their nose. The trainers where I record Cougars were amazed that I didn't play the wind more than I do. Their nose is far better than ours, they're just not wired to use it as a first line of defense/offense like a Coyote is. They rely on their eyes and ears... but they can and do use their nose, without question.
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A friend and I used fawn in distress calls with his FoxPro 2 winters ago. I'd been shed hunting in mid February and found numerous lion tracks in mud and snow, and eventually a fresh kill. We went in at mid morning and set up in the area. He had a view below and up the ridge, and I had a view below and down the ridge. We were 25-30 yards apart and I had a doug fir against my back with thick brush behind me.
After about 40 minutes I noticed something brown move down the ridge, and at first glance I thought it was a deer since doe's often respond to fawn in distress calls. After maybe 10 seconds of watching I saw the long tail flick, and immediately knew it was a lion. I only had to move my rifle a few inches to have it lined up and the scope to my eye. Gary started the call again and the lion moved about 5 yards and cleared the brush giving me a shot. He was a 5 yr old 170 # tom. The heaviest pack I hauled out of the woods!
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I find a lot of lion kills down here near Mt Hood. This buck was laying on the edge of a gravel road a few years ago with drag marks in the dust.
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Came back the next morning, the carcass was 30 yards down the hill in the timber and over half the deer was eaten.
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By the next morning, the carcass had been moved another 200 ft and all but the head, lower legs, hide, and a chunk of spine had been consumed.
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Are you sure that was a lion kill? All the cougar kills I've found have been atleast partially buried in pine needles and grass.
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
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Are you sure that was a lion kill? All the cougar kills I've found have been atleast partially buried in pine needles and grass.
Absolutely, it's tracks were in the road and I'm pretty sure I spooked it off the buck as I drove up. The next day after it had eaten the first half , the carcass had debris raked over it. Hard to see it the pic.
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I find far more bucks killed by lions then I do doe's and fawns.
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This buck had been fed on a couple times and left for birds and other scavengers. The lions usually don't cover the carcass if they don't intend on coming back.
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Found this little forked horn in some thick brush one morning during the rut.
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Snuck in the next morning from downwind hoping to kill him, but it was too thick and I only managed to bump the cat off the carcass. It had been moved about 200 ft, but I found bits and pieces...plus lots of runny poo.
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Came back the next morning and the lion had packed the rest of the deer off or eaten it, the only piece I found was a chunk of spine. It wreaked from the big tom spraying the whole area down.
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
Thanks Jason! Long time no hear buddy.
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Are you sure that was a lion kill? All the cougar kills I've found have been atleast partially buried in pine needles and grass.
Absolutely, it's tracks were in the road and I'm pretty sure I spooked it off the buck as I drove up. The next day after it had eaten the first half , the carcass had debris raked over it. Hard to see it the pic.
that explains it. Thanks for sharing :tup:
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Hungry Lions! That's some fast eating!
Tree killer, can I use your story/pics on my website? That's a great cat!
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
Or 121 or 101 or 105 or 108 or 111 etc etc. Infested all over
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
Not sure where your going with this, but I did give a tip, and shared some knowledge that I gained this year while hunting, my tip was, don't miss!.
Why is this my advice to other hunters of this elusive feline that most hunters will never ever see?
We'll I missed this cat on opening day of modern deer season this year, 311yds and I shot to low :bash: still stings thinking about it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi165.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu41%2Fswampr42%2Fopening%2520day%2520cougar%25202015_zps36depbyr.jpg&hash=f7e65374258a2a665079c2cdb956c4fcf05be693) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/swampr42/media/opening%20day%20cougar%202015_zps36depbyr.jpg.html)
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
There's no cougar in 117 or 113, much better odds to hunt them in 101,105 ;D
I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar
Exactly why I'm trying to be so helpful +1 We need more of them dead, and coyotes too, and bears too and wolves too
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
Not sure where your going with this, but I did give a tip, and shared some knowledge that I gained this year while hunting, my tip was, don't miss!.
Why is this my advice to other hunters of this elusive feline that most hunters will never ever see?
We'll I missed this cat on opening day of modern deer season this year, 311yds and I shot to low :bash: still stings thinking about it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi165.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu41%2Fswampr42%2Fopening%2520day%2520cougar%25202015_zps36depbyr.jpg&hash=f7e65374258a2a665079c2cdb956c4fcf05be693) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/swampr42/media/opening%20day%20cougar%202015_zps36depbyr.jpg.html)
i may have misunderstood your post. That would sting! My concern like how I interpted your post is that people will be out trying to call cats and educate them. That would suck like many of my coyote hunting grounds have been. I'd rather help those new to this to not make all those stupid mistakes I've made sofar so not to educate those cats but kill them. I do really love calling cougar but we seem to have so many that I'd rather people where out there taking cats than getting frustrated and giving it up.
Thanks for sharing
Amen KFhunter :tup:
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Great post guys :tup:
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Hungry Lions! That's some fast eating!
Tree killer, can I use your story/pics on my website? That's a great cat!
Sure, no problem. Thanks for asking!
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We just ordered a Shockwave , game on . After doing a lot of reading I never realized just how many deer / elk a single cougar can eat . I always assumed that the coyotes where the main problem here on the west side but not anymore . After my wife's encounter / miss it's now become an obsession . Janst , what load do you use in your shot gun ?
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Tree Killer that's a fine feline you have there my friend :tup: Congrats!!
I have avoided giving any advice or tips in this thread, only because it pains me to much think about it. But my advice for the OP and everyone who hunts these elusive felines of the forest is, Don't Miss!! :bash:
you do realize people are still going to educate cougar. Maybe a tip or two would help people be successful and not educate lions. I'm no pro by any means but atleast in my areas I'd rather people where out taking cougar. We have way too many predators period! That's why I'm happy to share the small amount of knowlage I have gained. I'd really love for everyone to kill there cat in 117 or 113! Jmo
Not sure where your going with this, but I did give a tip, and shared some knowledge that I gained this year while hunting, my tip was, don't miss!.
Why is this my advice to other hunters of this elusive feline that most hunters will never ever see?
We'll I missed this cat on opening day of modern deer season this year, 311yds and I shot to low :bash: still stings thinking about it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi165.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu41%2Fswampr42%2Fopening%2520day%2520cougar%25202015_zps36depbyr.jpg&hash=f7e65374258a2a665079c2cdb956c4fcf05be693) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/swampr42/media/opening%20day%20cougar%202015_zps36depbyr.jpg.html)
Great photo!
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We just ordered a Shockwave , game on . After doing a lot of reading I never realized just how many deer / elk a single cougar can eat . I always assumed that the coyotes where the main problem here on the west side but not anymore . After my wife's encounter / miss it's now become an obsession . Janst , what load do you use in your shot gun ?
i pack #4 buck hand loads of 35 pellets or 00 buck from federal I think you should try multipul load/chocke combos in your shotgun to see which patterns best in your gun. My gun love those 2 tho
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Thanks Jasnt :tup:
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I ran in to a couple guys that needed a ride on the S Fork of the Manashtash. The snow was deep and they claimed of riding a snow machine until they saw lion tracks. Got off the machine and walked them out. They claimed of killing 7 cats over the last five years using this method.
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I have tried the tracking them down method many times and succeeded once in killing the cougar. Most of the time either the snow peters out (melts off) >:( or I do (run out of energy) :bash: . Sucks getting older.
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I forgot to mention- one time I was hunting spring bear and there was still quite a bit of snow on the ground. I was following some bear tracks when I cut some even fresher cougar tracks. Shortly after that (while now following the cougar tracks for the heck of it) I came up on the cougar about 15 yards away. It promptly ran off. Wishing I had a cougar tag then, I was in Oregon and their season is open all year.
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
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WAPATRIOT,
It is complicated to learn, but it is worth it in the end. The new java based programmer they have on the foxpro website does make it a bit easier. My biggest issue is with the new computer I got only recognizes my call about 10% of the time.
I would download the programming utility, hook up the call to your computer and then call the FP guys and have them walk you through the process. The utility has also made it a ton easier to make calling sequences.
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Thank you I appricate your advise I guess there isn't an easy way out. I got my caller with 138 sounds from all predator non of the free ones and I am lost. Gunna mess around with it everyday this next week. I really want to figure out an elk calling sequence were I have a lost calf then a couple of cows who find her and a satalight bull that moves in. Think it could be deadly. And mix in some apple crunching it won't be fare.
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Merry Christmas!
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I just posted 5 new stories on my Cougar Call-In Story page:
http://rain-shadow.com/cougar_callin_stories.htm
The new ones are RS12, O20, O21, A18, & A19.
Still have a couple pics to post with them, but the stories are up!
Enjoy! Thanks for reading!
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
Not sure you can you electronic calls for elk. I would double check the regs on that. :tup:
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
Not sure you can you electronic calls for elk. I would double check the regs on that. :tup:
yes it's legal in wa just not deer or turkey.
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
Not sure you can you electronic calls for elk. I would double check the regs on that. :tup:
yes it's legal in wa just not deer or turkey.
Don't try putting an electric tail on a deer decoy either. Big no no. A guy told me that a game warden gave him that friendly advice instead of a big fat ticket this year. What got him off was probably that the electric tail he bought was a piece of junk and didn't work right.
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Who is excited about cougar season? Looking forward to September! Can't wait to get out calling cats again!
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
Not sure you can you electronic calls for elk. I would double check the regs on that. :tup:
yes it's legal in wa just not deer or turkey.
Don't try putting an electric tail on a deer decoy either. Big no no. A guy told me that a game warden gave him that friendly advice instead of a big fat ticket this year. What got him off was probably that the electric tail he bought was a piece of junk and didn't work right.
???? You can use the mojos, critters, funny bunnies, etc. Those are all electronic and make motion.
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Sneaking up on a cat has to be too much fun. Just got my shockwave not that impressed I am not a computed expert by any means but damn this thing is complicated. Anyone know if you can send the shockwave somewhere to have someone download the free sounds off fox pro website and potentially upload calling sequences. Also want to learn to have elk sequences for elk hunting.
Not sure you can you electronic calls for elk. I would double check the regs on that. :tup:
yes it's legal in wa just not deer or turkey.
Don't try putting an electric tail on a deer decoy either. Big no no. A guy told me that a game warden gave him that friendly advice instead of a big fat ticket this year. What got him off was probably that the electric tail he bought was a piece of junk and didn't work right.
???? You can use the mojos, critters, funny bunnies, etc. Those are all electronic and make motion.
i think he was referring to deer season
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gotcha
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Sometimes an older track is worth following.
At a place where I've noticed lions regularly cross a logging road I stopped to check and found a large cougar track 8 hours old, heading uphill. I could age the track by how much snow was in it, and knew when the snow had quit falling and the tracks had frozen harder. Hmmm... it was 80 yards of steep scramble to reach the flat top of the ridge above but I followed. 15 yards onto the flat was a tangle of down trees twisted into a weird natural tepee and the big cat tracks went out of sight under the middle of the pile. I wondered if he was still under the logs and circled slowly and as silently as possible. His tracks emerged when I'd circled 3/4 of the way around the pile-- and now they were no more than an hour and a half old!
Ditto for a lynx: found a track several hours old, drove on ahead to check side roads, and hit the same track a mile farther and hours fresher. Both cats apparently stopped for a nap.
Is it worth following? :dunno: If you have to follow on foot it demands a lotta sweat for an unlikely possibility.
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I agree. Even day old tracks can get you closer. Walk them down till you find fresher sign. I take note of every single peace of cat sign I find. Every bit of info is important imo
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I saw three lions last week walking a logging road. I went up to were they entered the woods, two of the three were still there. I didn't have my camera ready unfortunately.
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Best one I could find
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tag
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Is the heart on that x-ray vision cougar in the right place? It is about a full heart-width farther back than I would expect, but maybe that is accurate. Anybody know for sure?
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Here are a few more. I do know that a Cougars heart is farther back than most game. Last night I was again listening to Steve's tutorials ( rainshadow1) and if I remember correctly he says it's just Above the elbow when front feet are together and its standing, also noted it's farther back then you'd expect.
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Is the heart on that x-ray vision cougar in the right place? It is about a full heart-width farther back than I would expect, but maybe that is accurate. Anybody know for sure?
you got me thinking. Been doing more research and from what I'm finding the heart is farther back but also small and so are their lungs.
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Bumping this up.
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I was on some fresh tracks this morning, I was hunting a tree though, but still I wanted to ditch the girls and take off on it :tup:
need some snow
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Tagging
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Going on a hike to check a camera tomorrow and wasnt going to bring a rifle, but i read this and realized if i dont bring one ill almost certainly cut some fresh cougar tracks and kick myself in the ass.
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Good chance of that bango. Snow is coming kfhunter. Hopefully some of us can get some cats down while the season is still open
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It’s that time of year again. Bumping to the top for hopefully new info
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I haven't started yet, even though there's fresh frost so it's possible to see some tracks here and there but not as easy as snow for sure.
I did get into some fresh snow this year already, next system to come through could easily put some snow down at higher elevations, deer haven't moved down yet so I'll start at the tops and work down.
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I’ve done one cold stand this year so far but an area I see cats often. I figure I got till the first of the year to get one.
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Lots of incidentals this year it seems.
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
Very unpredictable and low percentage. They will visit it... but when? And will they take it, cache it, and hang around...? Not likely. It's been done, but not predictably enough to hunt over.
Their own kills, absolutely. 100%.
But bait, no. Hit and miss.
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
Very unpredictable and low percentage. They will visit it... but when? And will they take it, cache it, and hang around...? Not likely. It's been done, but not predictably enough to hunt over.
Their own kills, absolutely. 100%.
But bait, no. Hit and miss.
Done some more research on this and it seems like someitmes of the year they wil hit it but whole carcass works best. I live 5 minutes from this one so I'm hoping I can catch him, also wired the dead calf to the tree so he doesn't get to rip it down and drag it off hopefully. Some snow would be great then I could track/ call. Cold calling hasnt worked yet
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I haven't started yet, even though there's fresh frost so it's possible to see some tracks here and there but not as easy as snow for sure.
I did get into some fresh snow this year already, next system to come through could easily put some snow down at higher elevations, deer haven't moved down yet so I'll start at the tops and work down.
Saw a couple of melt outs during late buck. :tup: One set was a pair of cats.
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No snow here yet, so I've made probably 50 cold stands between sept. 1st and rifle deer season. No cougars yet. couple coyotes and a bobcat came in so far. I'll be back at it this week now that the rifle guys are done. Called in a nice cougar in July. Who would've thought, not only do deer read the rule books, but apparently the cougars get a copy every year too.
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Here's a tip, Swakane , mills canyon side near the top. Cat tracks all over the morning after fresh snow.
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Yesterday I got on fresh tracks first thing in the morning. I think I may have bumped him as he went straight as cats can to the river, crossed it and up the other side. I bee lined it for the truck and drove to the other side of the property (hour walk and 20 min drive) then packed in the mile and a half till I was on the hill above where the cat headed up. I set up in a draw and called for an hour. Thought I heard a few whistles but wasn’t sure if it was a woodpecker, As I headed out I see I called in the cougar and never seen it. It sat 100 yards from the call and watched, then walked away on my trail in. :bash: Prob my last chance at a cougar this year in 117 anyway. Season almost always closes Jan 1st.
In the 14 miles I walked the last 2 days I did not see one single moose track. This property is normally full of moose!
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
We are doing an experiment- not with bait, but with a scent rumored to attract cats. Watching a couple spots with the game cams.
So far it is promising. Got the big cougar ( that we already know about), some bobcats, coyotes and even deer checking it out- the cougar came by at 10 in the morning :tup:
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
We are doing an experiment- not with bait, but with a scent rumored to attract cats. Watching a couple spots with the game cams.
So far it is promising. Got the big cougar ( that we already know about), some bobcats, coyotes and even deer checking it out- the cougar came by at 10 in the morning :tup:
Are you willing to share what it is?
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Anyone ever tried baiting lions? It is legal and I have a cat I am trying to get off one of my properties. Currently have a dead calf hung in a tree. The cat seems to appear consistently on the trail cam about every three weeks, although he has put a hammering on the deer, so less deer now to draw him.
We are doing an experiment- not with bait, but with a scent rumored to attract cats. Watching a couple spots with the game cams.
So far it is promising. Got the big cougar ( that we already know about), some bobcats, coyotes and even deer checking it out- the cougar came by at 10 in the morning :tup:
Are you willing to share what it is?
:yeah: please share
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Is it catnip? I've seen a lot of clips of cougars in captivity react the same to a housecat on catnip. I took a container of catnip and made one gallon of tea with it. If i leave a drop on the floor my cat will find it. I personally don't believe catnip will lure in a cat, but my intention is to spray a bunch around near the caller to possibly distract a cougar if it doesn't lure it in. I haven't had the chance to use it yet. Ended up tagging a cat this year and don't need it until next year but I might try it in september on some cold stands.
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Bumping. Deer season is about over. Time for chasing tail
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I'm waiting for some snow so I can learn to cut tracks.
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Lets get this thread going again. I need to figure out how to kill a few cats. So far it has been a great read.
Out deer hunting this last week and had a cat vocalize. It went on for about 2-3 minutes and then silence. It was during a windstorm which I thought was weird. Me and my son locked and loaded and b-lined for the sound being we could move in absolute silence. Never found it. Sat up and called for a bit but the wind was just to much.....so we called it quits.
I need to figure this out....I have way to many cats in my area.
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Lets get this thread going again. I need to figure out how to kill a few cats. So far it has been a great read.
Out deer hunting this last week and had a cat vocalize. It went on for about 2-3 minutes and then silence. It was during a windstorm which I thought was weird. Me and my son locked and loaded and b-lined for the sound being we could move in absolute silence. Never found it. Sat up and called for a bit but the wind was just to much.....so we called it quits.
I need to figure this out....I have way to many cats in my area.
Had that happen… twice.
First time was heat caterwauling, I wasn’t prepared do deal with it, and she/they sensed my presence from a ridiculously long distance and went quiet. (Immediately responding with lion whistles would have been the only chance.)
Second time was just as I stepped out of the rig there were two calling aggressively at each other, likely territorially that time. I set up to call back at them but gave up because I was just educating them. I couldn’t get away from the rig because Alex was in a car seat and would cry every time I tried to move out of sight! (He’s graduating high school this year, so that was awhile ago!) Pretty sure they knew what/where/possibly even who I was every second on that one, they just didn’t care, they were intent on tearing each other a new one.
Extremely tricky to get a sight picture on a vocal cat. My opinion is, the best option is to stalk in on them… but how often do humans stealth in on a lion?!?! So stalking in under the cover of lion whistles. That’s my theory for approaching a vocal cat. (Hope I get another chance to try it someday!)
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Anyone getting out on these cold days? I’ll be looking for tracks tomorrow. Snows about knee deep and it should be under 20 degrees. Plan to just track one down if I find fresh tracks. Southern Washington.
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Anyone getting out on these cold days? I’ll be looking for tracks tomorrow. Snows about knee deep and it should be under 20 degrees. Plan to just track one down if I find fresh tracks. Southern Washington.
I've been thinking about it, but 10 degrees is the high and in the negative degrees in the mourning. That's pretty cold.
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Yeah, if YOU are prepared for the cold and potentially being stuck in it, it's a great time to try for them, they're hungry!
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Yeah, if YOU are prepared for the cold and potentially being stuck in it, it's a great time to try for them, they're hungry!
Oh walking around in temps in the teens is no problem. Nothing better then cold walks.
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Yeah, if YOU are prepared for the cold and potentially being stuck in it, it's a great time to try for them, they're hungry!
Oh walking around in temps in the teens is no problem. Nothing better then cold walks.
Meh...the cold isn't what is stopping me. It's the whopping 5 inches of clearance that my mini-van has...
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Yeah, if YOU are prepared for the cold and potentially being stuck in it, it's a great time to try for them, they're hungry!
Oh walking around in temps in the teens is no problem. Nothing better then cold walks.
Meh...the cold isn't what is stopping me. It's the whopping 5 inches of clearance that my mini-van has...
:chuckle:
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Seems like a good time to start this thread back up. Calling for bears this weekend in the NE corner I decided it was probably time to give up on that and switched to using some cat vocalizations. Haven't seen fresh bear sign in weeks...
Using fawn chatter and lost goat distress calls for about 40 minutes then mixing in cat sounds. No luck with that either but had a good time exploring a bit.
Will be listening to Rainshadow's seminars this week in prep for an attempt next weekend. If anyone has a recommendations on where to try around Ellensburg / Cle Elum let me know! I'll just be winging it as of now.
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tired of seeing cougars on my game cams this year (selkirk 113). also have had a bear and wolf in the last month. so maybe time to start focusing on them (since the deer hunting is not surprisingly *censored*). I've watched some videos and read some articles but totally new to predator hunting.
Haven't seen much about using a blind. What are thoughts on putting up some netting around your sitting spot. Not sure I can sit perfectly still for as long as I'm reading you should. Will likely pick up a fox pro and just start with simple calls. I would love to kill one of these things, not picky - any one will do. haha. I've had a few instances of cougars on different days in the last couple weeks, I know they are hanging out in my area.
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New to this myself, but based on the research I've done being quiet getting to and setting up your call stand is pretty important. I'm sure you could set up a little pole style turkey blind quietly. But, since cats prefer to approach from uphill, the effectiveness might be limited based on the contour of the land around you. I'd say it's worth a try.
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Should have some fresh snow on the ground this weekend in the Cascades. Anyone making plans to get out after some cats?
Thinking about trying around the Cle Elum area on Saturday. Only have one lead on a cat so going to start there. Back in early October a dirt biker stopped by my camp and told me he jumped one at the second gate up the road, only about an hour after I had passed that same gate on foot. Not sure if it'll still be in the area.
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I usually offer them 2-3 drinks and then they're doing whatever I ask for :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Yeah, tell em you have a 401K.
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And you don’t live in your moms basement
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Cameras were out in May/June and I have a great spot to call. Big bear, cougar, bobcat and coyote all in one area.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Cameras were out in May/June and I have a great spot to call. Big bear, cougar, bobcat and coyote all in one area.
Hopefully you'll have better luck than me.
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Hunter399, I'm sure I'll get something out of there. The bobcat and coyote will be hunted at night also with my thermal equipment.
It's a tricky place to hunt due to a road beaver pond and wind direction but upon scouting it out better I found a way to hunt it without letting them know I'm in the area.
I botched sneaking in while elk hunting it numerous times but now have a workable plan.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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Cougar tips? Patience is a virtue
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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not if they have already met the quota with vehicle kills or nuisance removal deaths
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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not if they have already met the quota with vehicle kills or nuisance removal deaths
Gotcha. I didn’t read that right then. I thought they were still going to give all the GMU’s a season. They would extend the quota more if most were killed by WDFW. My bad. We will all get screwed then.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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not if they have already met the quota with vehicle kills or nuisance removal deaths
Gotcha. I didn’t read that right then. I thought they were still going to give all the GMU’s a season. They would extend the quota more if most were killed by WDFW. My bad. We will all get screwed then.
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My guess is they will all be open on the first but there is a chance some won’t.
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I hope my unit opens .
I got a calling spot all picked out,ready to rock.
I just hope kitty is hungry,and in range to hear the call.
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I'll give you all a tip.
Pull your foxpro or electronic caller out ,give it a testing before heading out.
Recently pulled mine out yesterday.
Remote is jacked up.
Battery was dead on remote,no big deal right.
Pop a new one in,now it automatically comes on as soon as the battery hits the terminals. The screen doesn't display any of the sounds. I can still play the sounds,have no clue which sound I'm playing. It's like working the remote blind.
I can't shut off the remote unless I remove the battery.
Power button works to play sounds,if I hold it down to shut down.
It's will say ....
Release button to shut off,then I do that and it stays on.
Left the battery out , overnight on the remote. Now it turns off/on.
Display is still screwed on the sounds,going blind man here.
My advise is ,check your batterys,do a function test before your miles from home.
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I'll give you all a tip.
Pull your foxpro or electronic caller out ,give it a testing before heading out.
Recently pulled mine out yesterday.
Remote is jacked up.
Battery was dead on remote,no big deal right.
Pop a new one in,now it automatically comes on as soon as the battery hits the terminals. The screen doesn't display any of the sounds. I can still play the sounds,have no clue which sound I'm playing. It's like working the remote blind.
I can't shut off the remote unless I remove the battery.
Power button works to play sounds,if I hold it down to shut down.
It's will say ....
Release button to shut off,then I do that and it stays on.
Left the battery out , overnight on the remote. Now it turns off/on.
Display is still screwed on the sounds,going blind man here.
My advise is ,check your batterys,do a function test before your miles from home.
I got mine out a couple weeks ago to go on a bear hunt and the batteries in the remote were dead as well as corroded. Put new batteries in and it worked fine. I wonder if you guy a new remote and somehow sync it. I’ve never looked into it.
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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not if they have already met the quota with vehicle kills or nuisance removal deaths
Gotcha. I didn’t read that right then. I thought they were still going to give all the GMU’s a season. They would extend the quota more if most were killed by WDFW. My bad. We will all get screwed then.
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My guess is they will all be open on the first but there is a chance some won’t.
Yeah, battery powered stuff doesn't store well... I'll never learn!
I understand at least once area isn't going to open at all, but I haven't looked for myself yet.
LOTS of sightings being reported, all over the State. Lots. No shortage. I really hate management by politics.
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I went out calling yesterday. I had two cats on camera within 10 hours of each other in the same area I hunt. No way it’s the same cat. The first target cat was there just under two days prior. I called to the first cat 3 hours after having it on camera. Two different places. If it came I didn’t see it. Fawn distress and then whistles. I went to the cat I had now 12 hours earlier had had a coyote come in. Same calling sequence.
Maybe the mid 70’s weather didn’t help. I don’t know. Maybe one of them came and I didn’t see it. I had fresh bear tracks in the road which is about a 100 yards from the camera. Did that cause a problem? Who knows.
So on the cougar whistles do you let the caller just roll? Is it weird for your call to call for 2 minutes of straight whistles? Do you do like 2 then mute and then 2 more and mute?
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I didn’t explain that right. When I say I had the first cat on camera within two days, I meant I had it twice in two days and when I hunted it, it was within 3 hours of the second time.
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I went out calling yesterday. I had two cats on camera within 10 hours of each other in the same area I hunt. No way it’s the same cat. The first target cat was there just under two days prior. I called to the first cat 3 hours after having it on camera. Two different places. If it came I didn’t see it. Fawn distress and then whistles. I went to the cat I had now 12 hours earlier had had a coyote come in. Same calling sequence.
Maybe the mid 70’s weather didn’t help. I don’t know. Maybe one of them came and I didn’t see it. I had fresh bear tracks in the road which is about a 100 yards from the camera. Did that cause a problem? Who knows.
So on the cougar whistles do you let the caller just roll? Is it weird for your call to call for 2 minutes of straight whistles? Do you do like 2 then mute and then 2 more and mute?
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One thing I have learned is there is no such thing as too much calling with cougars. When I'm calling it sounds obnoxious. Full volume and nonstop vocals.
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When the cougar starts talking back you’ll see they also whistle a lot. Before long you’ll start second guessing yourself and start to wonder if it’s a bird. It’s not
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Is it time to start calling cats yet? Ugh. Hurry up September 1st.
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I got a few spots with cougar.
I'm waiting for September 1 to see if any unit is open up here.
Shouldn’t they all be open? I say that without checking online.
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not if they have already met the quota with vehicle kills or nuisance removal deaths
Gotcha. I didn’t read that right then. I thought they were still going to give all the GMU’s a season. They would extend the quota more if most were killed by WDFW. My bad. We will all get screwed then.
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My guess is they will all be open on the first but there is a chance some won’t.
Yeah, battery powered stuff doesn't store well... I'll never learn!
I understand at least once area isn't going to open at all, but I haven't looked for myself yet.
LOTS of sightings being reported, all over the State. Lots. No shortage. I really hate management by politics.
You’re right, 564 battleground never opened. What the heck?
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On the Fox Pro are you full volume or like half?
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I work my way all the way up.
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Have a lot of cash on the bar during ladies night, it’s baiting but legal.🤣