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Title: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on November 19, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
When making Venison pepperoni, do you add pork??  If so how much??  I am going to try my hand it it today / tomorrow and am struggling with adding pork vs beaf and how much.

Thanks

Johnny
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 19, 2015, 02:42:26 PM
Pm Weazel he makes it a lot.  :tup:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: wannabhntr on November 19, 2015, 02:42:37 PM
I just made 20 lbs at the beginning of October. I used my left over burger which was mixed 10 to 1 with beef fat. I used 14 lbs of burger with 6 lbs of pork butt and shoulder. Turned out amazing.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 19, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
For pepperoni I use about 20% pork. I found some pork belly at Costco this year for cheap. Nice thing about using pork is that it tightens up your mix so when its done it cuts clean and has the nice marbled look to it. And tastes really good.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: Lightning_Rider on November 19, 2015, 02:54:26 PM
We take all our meat that is to be ground up for pepperoni, kielbasa, summer sausage, etc. and store it in bags of 18lbs... Then when we pull em out to make sausage or pepperoni, we add 7lbs of pork butt for each bag. Its super convenient doing it this way because most of our batches are either 50lbs or 100lbs.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: dogtuk on November 19, 2015, 07:52:17 PM
70/30 venison/pork is a good mix you can go 50/50 but any more and the pork over powers the venison I like using porkbutt shoulder and porkbutt is on sale at cash and carry for 128 a pound right now
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: jrebel on November 19, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
Well I went with a 40/60 pork venison mix.  Made up 10 lbs of peperoni sticks and will be smoking / cooking them tomorrow.  I cooked a small amount of both batches (one spicy, one not) and both tasted absolutely delicious.  I will be smoking them on the treager tomorrow.....Any reccomendations or secrets when it comes to smoking pep sticks.  My plan was to smoke at 150 degrees for 45 to 60 minutes and then turn up the temp to 200 until I reach an internal temp of 165.  Thoughts?? 

 :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: lokidog on November 19, 2015, 09:59:47 PM
For pepperoni I use about 20% pork. I found some pork belly at Costco this year for cheap. Nice thing about using pork is that it tightens up your mix so when its done it cuts clean and has the nice marbled look to it. And tastes really good.

 :yeah:

One part lean pork shoulder to four parts venison.  Hope you used lean or your 40% mix might be a bit greasy.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: LndShrk on November 19, 2015, 10:36:01 PM
Well I went with a 40/60 pork venison mix.  Made up 10 lbs of peperoni sticks and will be smoking / cooking them tomorrow.  I cooked a small amount of both batches (one spicy, one not) and both tasted absolutely delicious.  I will be smoking them on the treager tomorrow.....Any reccomendations or secrets when it comes to smoking pep sticks.  My plan was to smoke at 150 degrees for 45 to 60 minutes and then turn up the temp to 200 until I reach an internal temp of 165.  Thoughts?? 

 :tup: :tup:

If you go to 200 deg you will melt the fat.
Typically when smoking pep sticks I smoke at 130 deg for a couple hours then slowly ramp up to 170 deg. Once the Internal Temp reaches 130 I put them in a hot water bath to finish them off. The hot water temp is at 170 deg. Once internal temp of pep sticks reaches 160 they are done. (This all assumes you use instacure in your recipe)

Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: sdagle on November 20, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
I have done a lot of batches of snack sticks.  If you are looking for all wild game with fat (which I use now) I use 10% pork fat.  So if you are using seasoning for a 25 lb batch it would be 2.5 lbs of  pork fat to 22.5 lbs venison.   Using 70% venison 30% pork butt works but I prefer using venison\pork fat method.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: Netminder01 on November 20, 2015, 01:41:19 PM
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Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni??
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
First Batch done and I think it turned out great.  Next batch (spicy) is on the smoker now and will be coming off in a few hours.   :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: h20hunter on November 20, 2015, 01:55:46 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: lamrith on November 20, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
For those of us not in the know, how would pepperoni be different than say Jerky made with ground meat and seasoning.  Does it have to do with the skins and how it is cooked?

I am just getting started and using a Nesco Jerky shooter kit.  1st batch turned out good and family loves it, just wanting to continually try new things.  I have a variety pack on the way now from them to try more flavors.....
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2015, 03:41:21 PM
For those of us not in the know, how would pepperoni be different than say Jerky made with ground meat and seasoning.  Does it have to do with the skins and how it is cooked?

I am just getting started and using a Nesco Jerky shooter kit.  1st batch turned out good and family loves it, just wanting to continually try new things.  I have a variety pack on the way now from them to try more flavors.....

So I have done lots of whole muscle jerky and ground jerky in the past.  To me the pepperoni is different in the fact that it is in a case and not as dry as jerky.  Otherwise it is the same concept.  I know some people like their pepperoni drier than others....at which time it is very similar to ground jerky. 
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: ridgefire on November 20, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: lokidog on November 20, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
 :drool:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
The spicy blend is  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: OUT OF THIS WORLD DELICIOUS!!   Perfect amount of spice.   :tup:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 20, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
The spicy blend is  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: OUT OF THIS WORLD DELICIOUS!!   Perfect amount of spice.   :tup:

Post your recipe dude!   :drool:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: kingmountain on November 20, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
Please post time and temp for the traeger, Interested in trying some on the traeger. Thanks
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: grundy53 on November 20, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
The spicy blend is  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: OUT OF THIS WORLD DELICIOUS!!   Perfect amount of spice.   :tup:

Post your recipe dude!   :drool:
THIS!

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Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: 92xj on November 20, 2015, 07:00:57 PM
Did you make true pepperoni or just snack sticks with the spicy blend?
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2015, 07:12:22 PM
Here is the recipe...

Used High Mountain Mandarine Teryaki seasoning kit in reccomended amounts.
Added: (per 5 lb batch
     -  0.5 oz garlic powder (not garlic salt)
     -  0.3 oz cayanne powder
     -  0.5 oz crushed ready pepper (could use more if you like depending on level of spice)  I would rate this a 3 star out of 5. 

My venison / pork mixture was 60/40 (second batch 70/30 and it turned out great.) revised  and it seemed to work really well.  My pork butt was bought from Cash and Carry not trimmed just gound.  I am sure you could use whatever percentage you wanted but this was not very greasy at all. 

Traeger directions:

Start traeger on smoke with the lid open for the first 10 minutes.  Close lid and alow the smoker to come to temp (it was really cold today so my smoke setting temp ran around 140 ish).  Smoke for 1.5 hours then turn up temp to 180.  Approx 1 to 1.5 until internal temp was 155 ish.  I turned my traeger to 225 to get to a finished temp of 165-170; which only took about 15-20 minutes.  Pulled them off the traeger and moved them insided to a cookie sheet.  I flipped the sticks over on the cookie sheet so the top was now on the bottom (don't know why but thought it may help with any fat that had rendered and it could soak back through the entire stick).  Let stand for 1 hour to cool off.  Cut the sticks into package lengths (great time to sample) and then let cool for another 30 minutes in the fridge before vaccuum sealing. 

Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
Did you make true pepperoni or just snack sticks with the spicy blend?

I guess I don't know the difference??  They are not dehydrated so I guess more like snack sticks.    :dunno:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: 92xj on November 20, 2015, 07:19:26 PM
Pepperoni is an actual flavor not a generic term. They do make pepperoni mixes for snack sticks. I prefer it the least out of most of the snack stick flavors I've made.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: TomT on November 21, 2015, 02:00:00 PM
For those who still need to make sausage, Cash and Carry has boneless pork butt on sale for about another week for $1.28lb.  Cheapest I have ever seen.
It's what I've used for years and works great.
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on December 22, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
My second batch I slimmed down on the pork to a 70/30 mix and it still turned out great.  I will use the 70/30 mix from now on.   :tup:
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: Crunchy on December 23, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
which casings are best?
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: jrebel on December 23, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
which casings are best?

Not sure what is best....I used the cologin casings that came with the kit and they worked.  They were fiberous.....and a little tough but not horrible.  I would love to here from others if there is a good casing. 
Title: Re: Question about making pepperoni?? Updated with pics of first batch!!
Post by: dogtuk on December 23, 2015, 05:39:00 PM
The cologin casing is the easiest to use on stix you can use sheep casings but I find them hard to work with I use the 21mm cologin casing for stix just make sure you get the ones for smoked sausages or you will have a mess the ones for fresh sausages break real easy
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