Post by: Rob Allen on December 02, 2015, 07:42:05 PM
Wife's 30-30 Marlin lever gun is too heavy. I have a Ruger American in 30- 06 it has too much kick for her.
I'd like for her to have a gun she can carry all day and something that has better ballistics than her 30-30.
good balistics.. light weight... low recoil mules deer and clearcut blacktails...
suggestions?
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 02, 2015, 07:43:33 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 02, 2015, 07:47:11 PM
Post by: Rob Allen on December 02, 2015, 07:49:35 PM
Post by: coachcw on December 02, 2015, 07:51:55 PM
Post by: Romulus1297 on December 02, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
Post by: coachcw on December 02, 2015, 07:56:23 PM
Post by: Romulus1297 on December 02, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
Post by: Jason on December 02, 2015, 07:59:33 PM
Post by: 2labs on December 02, 2015, 08:03:18 PM
Ruger American in 7mm-08, then you could top it with a decent scope and still stay under $1,000.
Yea, do you want the wife shooting a nicer rifle than you? :(
Post by: Rob Allen on December 02, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Ruger American in 7mm-08, then you could top it with a decent scope and still stay under $1,000.
Yea, do you want the wife shooting a nicer rifle than you? :(
She is the one who spots all the deer anyway.... I do all the walking then she spots the deer while we drive..
Seriously I hiked a hundred miles during hunting season but both the opportunies came while we were driving
Post by: 2labs on December 02, 2015, 08:11:55 PM
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on December 02, 2015, 08:17:43 PM
Post by: kukusya on December 02, 2015, 08:27:27 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 02, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 02, 2015, 08:42:26 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 02, 2015, 08:47:37 PM
Post by: HawkCreek on December 02, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
Marlin lists their 336 at 7 pounds. So with a scope on either the Tikka or Ruger you aren't saving much weight.
Not sure about the Kimber or more expensive offerings but to dump weight you'll need to be ready to $pend.
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 02, 2015, 09:49:45 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 02, 2015, 10:01:34 PM
Another option. If you wanted. I can have a brake installed on say a tikka for her. It will really take the kick out of a lot of the calibers. The only thing is it will increase the noise.
I don't think she will have any problem with a 7mm-08 but I can hook you up with a tikka if you like as well.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on December 03, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
Honestly my 4'11", 100 lb wife shoots my T3 Lite in 30-06 just fine. She doesn't usually want to shoot it more than 3 or 4 times but it only takes one once it's zero'd.
Post by: whacker1 on December 03, 2015, 04:10:36 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 03, 2015, 06:12:19 AM
My 700 Mountain Lite 25-06 weighs right at 6.5 lbs w/o scope, if I remember right.
I was going to mention something like this in a SA cartridge, but a 30-30 marlin is too heavy. Maybe a TC Encore?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 03, 2015, 06:23:12 AM
My 700 Mountain Lite 25-06 weighs right at 6.5 lbs w/o scope, if I remember right.
I was going to mention something like this in a SA cartridge, but a 30-30 marlin is too heavy. Maybe a TC Encore?
MSRP on the gun is over a grand is the only thing..
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 03, 2015, 06:41:14 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 03, 2015, 07:04:25 AM
For an Encore?
No. My Encores are around the same price. $450ish for a new stainless frame, $300 + for the barrel, scope and rings.
Post by: Eli346 on December 03, 2015, 07:22:09 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 03, 2015, 07:25:16 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 03, 2015, 08:32:29 AM
Weatherby back country ultralight in .240 wby magRecoil on that thing has to be harsh.
I'd suggest Tikka T3 Stainless in .243, .260, or 7mm-08.
Add a Deadnutz scopemount and Burris E1 scope and you will have a very nice shooter that carries like a mountain rifle.
Post by: Bob33 on December 03, 2015, 08:35:14 AM
Managed recoil rounds are always mentioned, but that won't get the rifle weight down.They're not designed to. They do allow more potent calibers to shoot more pleasantly in lightweight rifles. Often, the lighter loads are more than adequate for the task at hand.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 03, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
Managed recoil rounds are always mentioned, but that won't get the rifle weight down.They're not designed to. They do allow more potent calibers to shoot more pleasantly in lightweight rifles. Often, the lighter loads are more than adequate for the task at hand.
Dang! :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on December 03, 2015, 08:42:31 AM
Post by: bobcat on December 03, 2015, 08:46:13 AM
I just noticed it also comes in 6.5 Creedmoor. :drool:
Now I want one!
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 08:46:31 AM
I am sure this topic has been done over and over and over.. and then maybe one more time after that. but I get the feeling that people really like talking about it. so along with researching in the archives I'll ask the question again.
Wife's 30-30 Marlin lever gun is too heavy. I have a Ruger American in 30- 06 it has too much kick for her.
I'd like for her to have a gun she can carry all day and something that has better ballistics than her 30-30.
good balistics.. light weight... low recoil mules deer and clearcut blacktails...
suggestions?
if the 30-06 would become her primary use, just get a brake on it~! kick would be gone and you would not be as lite in the wallet either... a 30-06 felt recoil with a brake is similar to a 243... just sayin...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 03, 2015, 09:06:25 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 03, 2015, 09:40:16 AM
Managed recoil rounds are always mentioned, but that won't get the rifle weight down.They're not designed to. They do allow more potent calibers to shoot more pleasantly in lightweight rifles. Often, the lighter loads are more than adequate for the task at hand.
Agreed. Just pointing out the existence of the rounds, in that they open up possibilities for the existing 30-06 with a limbsaver/brake, if the weight wasn't still an issue.
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
Post by: bobcat on December 03, 2015, 10:20:03 AM
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 10:24:01 AM
A muzzle brake is a great idea as long as you're willing to wear ear plugs while hunting. I'm not.? for that "one shot"?
I agree with range shooting but come on...
Post by: bobcat on December 03, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
A muzzle brake is a great idea as long as you're willing to wear ear plugs while hunting. I'm not.? for that "one shot"?
I agree with range shooting but come on...
Just my opinion. But shooting even without a brake is loud enough and damages my hearing enough. And how do you know you're only going to shoot once?
Post by: Bob33 on December 03, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
One shot from a muzzle braked gun can easily cause permanent hearing damage.A muzzle brake is a great idea as long as you're willing to wear ear plugs while hunting. I'm not.? for that "one shot"?
I agree with range shooting but come on...
http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/Recreational-Firearm-Noise-Exposure/
Exposure to noise greater than 140 dB can permanently damage hearing. Almost all firearms create noise that is over the 140-dB level. A small .22-caliber rifle can produce noise around 140 dB, while big-bore rifles and pistols can produce sound over 175 dB. Firing guns in a place where sounds can reverberate, or bounce off walls and other structures, can make noises louder and increase the risk of hearing loss. Also, adding muzzle brakes or other modifications can make the firearm louder. People who do not wear hearing protection while shooting can suffer a severe hearing loss with as little as one shot, if the conditions are right. Audiologists see this often, especially during hunting season when hunters and bystanders may be exposed to rapid fire from big-bore rifles, shotguns, or pistols.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 03, 2015, 10:30:22 AM
Tikka CTR....nice gun.
They are. With scope they come in right at around 8.5 lbs. I think that might be a bit to heavy overall. They are shooter though like every tikka I have owned or sold.
Post by: 2labs on December 03, 2015, 10:37:27 AM
Post by: skeeter 20i on December 03, 2015, 10:43:23 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 03, 2015, 12:42:45 PM
Hearing damage is cumulative and permanent.I am sure this topic has been done over and over and over.. and then maybe one more time after that. but I get the feeling that people really like talking about it. so along with researching in the archives I'll ask the question again.
Wife's 30-30 Marlin lever gun is too heavy. I have a Ruger American in 30- 06 it has too much kick for her.
I'd like for her to have a gun she can carry all day and something that has better ballistics than her 30-30.
good balistics.. light weight... low recoil mules deer and clearcut blacktails...
suggestions?
if the 30-06 would become her primary use, just get a brake on it~! kick would be gone and you would not be as lite in the wallet either... a 30-06 felt recoil with a brake is similar to a 243... just sayin...
No way I would brake a hunting rifle.
Post by: 2MANY on December 03, 2015, 12:49:44 PM
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
Hearing damage is cumulative and permanent.I am sure this topic has been done over and over and over.. and then maybe one more time after that. but I get the feeling that people really like talking about it. so along with researching in the archives I'll ask the question again.
Wife's 30-30 Marlin lever gun is too heavy. I have a Ruger American in 30- 06 it has too much kick for her.
I'd like for her to have a gun she can carry all day and something that has better ballistics than her 30-30.
good balistics.. light weight... low recoil mules deer and clearcut blacktails...
suggestions?
if the 30-06 would become her primary use, just get a brake on it~! kick would be gone and you would not be as lite in the wallet either... a 30-06 felt recoil with a brake is similar to a 243... just sayin...
No way I would brake a hunting rifle.
so have you ever researched or just shoot from the hip(no pun intended)?
above 140+db causes perm loss (by the experts) which, is below most 12 ga shotguns.... (low 140's). rifles/ pistols are all pretty much in the 150's (no brake) with brake only adds around +10db depending on the brake and caliber... muffs drop around 20-25db depending on quality plugs only work about 5db.. if you have never ever shot anything without hearing protection you are really on a hearing conservation program.. otherwise, your hearing is already gone (by the "experts" cumulative damage writings) and the end is near!! so get a brake and enjoy life with less recoil hehe
Oh, I have a very difficult time hearing my wife and use the years of shooting with and without brakes and her speaking frequency association as my excuse too ;)
Post by: Curly on December 03, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
I hear what you're sayin.
:lol4:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 03, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Post by: Curly on December 03, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11Lady
Weight is only 6 pounds. Should be worth consideration.
Post by: Curly on December 03, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
Could always go with a Howa barreled action in a #1 contour/20" barrel (weighs 4.5 pounds) and get an appropriate sized stock to fit your lady.
https://www.legacysports.com/shop/proddetail.php?prod=SLJ00171&cat=18
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 02:12:58 PM
Post by: Shooting Stix on December 03, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 03, 2015, 02:22:13 PM
not trying to argue, just saying that it should not be your primary concern for no brake for that one shot a season with no protection. it surely is a personal choice, but 30 years of hunting and shooting brake rifles on big game hunts with no hearing protection has had no measurable change in my baseline (checked annually for my job), for sure using protection for target applications.I would say that you are extremely fortunate, and a very rare case if you have suffered no hearing loss shooting firearms without hearing protection.
Post by: jackmaster on December 03, 2015, 02:30:02 PM
Post by: theleo on December 03, 2015, 03:07:44 PM
not trying to argue, just saying that it should not be your primary concern for no brake for that one shot a season with no protection. it surely is a personal choice, but 30 years of hunting and shooting brake rifles on big game hunts with no hearing protection has had no measurable change in my baseline (checked annually for my job), for sure using protection for target applications.
What did you just say?
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
not trying to argue, just saying that it should not be your primary concern for no brake for that one shot a season with no protection. it surely is a personal choice, but 30 years of hunting and shooting brake rifles on big game hunts with no hearing protection has had no measurable change in my baseline (checked annually for my job), for sure using protection for target applications.
What did you just say?
:chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on December 03, 2015, 08:01:10 PM
not trying to argue, just saying that it should not be your primary concern for no brake for that one shot a season with no protection. it surely is a personal choice, but 30 years of hunting and shooting brake rifles on big game hunts with no hearing protection has had no measurable change in my baseline (checked annually for my job), for sure using protection for target applications.When was your baseline established?
Post by: Curly on December 03, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
These are light.This is almost as good and not much over 1k.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=527623685
Post by: eliandsky on December 03, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
Post by: GoldenOscar on December 03, 2015, 11:06:36 PM
I would second the Weatherby Backcountry, either the .240 or .257 which I recently fell in love with.....less recoil in my opinion than my .270
Post by: ryanj on December 04, 2015, 10:01:56 AM
Good luck and have fun with it whatever you do!
Post by: yorketransport on December 04, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
CZ 527
I'm intrigued, tell me more! :chuckle:
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A CZ 527 in 264 LBC/Grendel is pretty much perfect for what you want. Mine throws a 130gr Accubond at 2430fps from the 19" barrel. That's plenty for most clear cut hunting. It's extremely accurate with little recoil and minimal noise. It's certainly capable of making longer shots but it starts to run out of steam past about 350 yards. The little CZ doubles as a fun plinking gun as well. Cheap to shoot and can still reach out to 1000 yards with the right load in decent conditions.
Andrew