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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: lewy on January 22, 2009, 09:57:10 AM

Title: pinto buck
Post by: lewy on January 22, 2009, 09:57:10 AM: Heres a cool lookin buck shot in the mid west, my buddie sent this to me as an e-mail. The story is that Cabelas paid the guy 13,000 bucks for the deer. My buddie always hates hearing these stories of Cabelas paying big money for pinto or piebald bucks because a few years ago him and I were packing out a 3pt bt I shot, and came across a 2pt. pinto bt. and he shot it. We skinned it and had it tanned(minus head and legs). I dont know if it would have been worth anything but it sure was a cool lookin deer...
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: MLBowhunting on January 22, 2009, 10:10:56 AM: Ive seen a small 2pt that looked like that up in the winston. I took a photo of him if i can find it i will post it.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Old Dog on January 22, 2009, 10:41:17 AM: Unlike the white tails in the Midwest if you see one of our black tails that looks like that it is because they are sick. Our black tails are suffering from a parasite that first turns the hair white, and then the hair falls out. In itself it is not fatal, but it does allow for hypothermia and other diseases to kill them. More info is available on the WDFW web site.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Antlershed on January 22, 2009, 10:55:11 AM: I'm pretty sure "piebald" or "pinto" is something different from the hair loss disease. According to WDFW, "piebald" is a result of genetic mutation... http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/crospath/fall2007/cross_06.htm

While they also state that the hair may turn yellow or white before it falls out when they have the hair loss syndrome, I'm pretty sure we can still have "piebald" blacktails that don't have hair loss. :twocents:
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: bucklucky on January 22, 2009, 11:07:54 AM: Quote from: Old Dog on January 22, 2009, 10:41:17 AM
Unlike the white tails in the Midwest if you see one of our black tails that looks like that it is because they are sick. Our black tails are suffering from a parasite that first turns the hair white, and then the hair falls out. In itself it is not fatal, but it does allow for hypothermia and other diseases to kill them. More info is available on the WDFW web site.

Thats something totally different, We have Piebalds here in washington also and its not from the parasite. What you are saying is true with the hairloss but totally different than a piebald deer. Here is a piebald my wife shot last year.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: lewy on January 22, 2009, 12:11:12 PM: I will dig up the pic of the pinto that im talking about....
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on January 22, 2009, 12:43:35 PM: Quote from: Old Dog on January 22, 2009, 10:41:17 AM
Unlike the white tails in the Midwest if you see one of our black tails that looks like that it is because they are sick. Our black tails are suffering from a parasite that first turns the hair white, and then the hair falls out. In itself it is not fatal, but it does allow for hypothermia and other diseases to kill them. More info is available on the WDFW web site.

Piebald is totally different than the hair loss thing. Although piebald are known to have other genetic defects. Their are breeders that will breed deer to bring out the piebald and Albino trait.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: hogsniper on January 22, 2009, 02:26:40 PM: I posted another blacktail taken this year that was a piebald.....It was a bad cell pic but was a very cool deer....Also a 2 point!
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: 7mmfan on January 22, 2009, 02:50:25 PM: Theres a fairly large group of them along the Skykomish just outside Monroe that I've seen a few times over the years. There used to be one dandy 4 pt that was almost 50/50 white and brown. White in the back and brown in the front with realy distinct white rings around his eyes. Really cool deer. Haven't seem him in a while though...
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Roger on January 22, 2009, 07:34:29 PM: Years ago in the upper Skockomish valley wee use to see quite a few piebalds. One that I remember was all pure white except from the neck up, which was normal. Have not been there for many years, so don't know if the gene is still there.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: lewy on January 23, 2009, 06:21:09 AM: Heres the bucks in the story I told at the top of the page.....
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 23, 2009, 06:46:44 AM: cool pics. I got this email from my sister last week (the pic of the midwestern buck).
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Elkstuffer on January 23, 2009, 08:58:00 PM: Here's a couple pictures of a Piebald muley doe that a customer of mine shot 2 years ago during the late archery season. He couldn't afford to lifesize mount it so I found a collector in Michigan that paid him $2500 for her. She was a beautiful deer.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 23, 2009, 09:42:12 PM: She looks a little skinny. Was she healthy?
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Elkstuffer on January 23, 2009, 10:09:44 PM: Aside from being field dressed and being 1 1/2 years old she looked to be in perfect health.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Dansk on January 25, 2009, 12:47:14 PM: Those are some neat looking animals- had no idea about this pinto thing.... incredible.

Any picks of members' Mulies or Elk like this in WA?

Would be interested to see more pics!
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: Elkstuffer on January 25, 2009, 01:41:49 PM: Quote from: Dansk on January 25, 2009, 12:47:14 PM
Any picks of members' Mulies or Elk like this in WA?

The doe pic's are of a muley taken east of Yakima.
Title: Re: pinto buck
Post by: blindpig on January 26, 2009, 03:25:55 PM: Cool looking bucks.