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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: Machias on January 22, 2009, 08:44:58 PM

Title: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 22, 2009, 08:44:58 PM: So how many of you folks are going stand with the FEW remaining houndsmen in this state and confront the WDFW about taking away hound hunting for coyotes? There is ABSOLUTELY no scientific reason to outlaw it and there has been no fricken Initiative outlawing it. There is NO reason to outlaw coyote hunting with dogs. I'm asking for your support, when you do your e-mails and when we go to the meetings.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Grizzly95 on January 22, 2009, 08:50:04 PM: Well I don't even use dogs for bird hunting (I would actually need to get out to chase them), but I would fully support the use of hounds. If a line isn't drawn they will continue to limit the use of dogs in other forms of hunting. I don't make it to any meetings, but I will forward or send emails in support.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: bowhuntin on January 22, 2009, 08:50:10 PM: I don't hound hunt and don't really have an interest in doing it in the future. But I will send off an email in support of the use of hounds as a management tool. I don't see any reason why they should get rid of hounds, other than they are caving in to special interest groups that are anti hunters put pressure on them to do it.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 22, 2009, 08:53:18 PM: Thanks guys!

I don't chase coyotes with hounds either, but there is no reason to take this away from those guys who do. I run coons here and I imagine we're next on the chopping box, then guys who run beagles on rabbits and so forth......
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Grizzly95 on January 22, 2009, 09:00:24 PM: Might be a dumb question, but does putting your dogs in direct contact with coyotes give them a greater risk of diseases like parvo and such?
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: bucklucky on January 22, 2009, 09:14:09 PM: I dont run coyotes with my hounds, but will definately support it. Coons are next and they need to be kept at bay. ;)
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 22, 2009, 09:16:39 PM: Quote from: Grizzly95 on January 22, 2009, 09:00:24 PM
Might be a dumb question, but does putting your dogs in direct contact with coyotes give them a greater risk of diseases like parvo and such?

Not unless they are not current on vaccinations. Parvo and other canine diseases are pretty rampant in all our towns. If you take a unvaccinated puppy down tot he park and he runs around for a bit, he'll most likely end up with parvo.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: bowhuntin on January 22, 2009, 09:20:41 PM: Just sent off an email to WDFW in support of using hounds for coyotes.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 22, 2009, 10:00:44 PM: "Hunting coyotes with dogs has been allowed in Washington for many years, but is proposed to be
eliminated. Public sentiment over using dogs to catch and kill other canids has reached a point
where it is no longer socially acceptable."

They are so full of :liar:
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Ray on January 22, 2009, 10:30:12 PM: I support the hound hunting. I will include it in my communications.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Elkstuffer on January 22, 2009, 10:40:26 PM: Quote from: bowhuntin on January 22, 2009, 08:50:10 PM
I don't hound hunt and don't really have an interest in doing it in the future. But I will send off an email in support of the use of hounds as a management tool. I don't see any reason why they should get rid of hounds, other than they are caving in to special interest groups that are anti hunters put pressure on them to do it.

Same here!!!
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Aneoakleaf on January 22, 2009, 10:51:52 PM: I have killed a bear behind hounds years ago and I think they are working hard for what they get. A blow to any hunting is a blow to us all >:(... I'll be writing to the WDFW TOO! :boxin:
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: TeacherMan on January 22, 2009, 11:00:10 PM: That is a good point. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that someone else doesn't. (does anyone hunt yotes with dogs?) These new hunting proposals seem so anti hunter to me. Anti hunting groups don't try and take it all away at once, little piece by little piece until it is all gone. Stand up for them, someday they may be able to stand up for you.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: FrankDown on January 22, 2009, 11:08:49 PM: The part about being "socially acceptable" is sure to be pressure from the anti hunting lobby. If another group said it was just as loud who are they going to side with. The trappers lost out here because no one stuck together, then another, and another, and another. I dont hunt here with dogs for coyote but Ills end a letter or email too.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: billythekidrock on January 23, 2009, 05:55:50 AM: You know I will Fred.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Houndhunter on January 23, 2009, 06:39:50 AM: havnt sent my email yet but will add this in it
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: GoldTip on January 23, 2009, 06:43:52 AM: Machias, e-mail sent and let me know when there are local meetings around Spokane, you have my support.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on January 23, 2009, 09:49:28 AM: Of course I'm on board.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: FrankDown on January 23, 2009, 09:51:33 AM: Sent an email about other things too. Got the canned response about the meetings they will be having.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on January 23, 2009, 11:42:06 AM: mick.cope@dfw.wa.gov

I went straight to the small game manager. He's the one that drafted the plan...

public sentiment...what a joke that is.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: saylean on January 23, 2009, 11:44:11 AM: I will be going to the meeting in Ellensburg, you can count on my support houndsmen.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: boneaddict on January 23, 2009, 11:55:43 AM: I will send another mail today including it Fred.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 23, 2009, 12:12:03 PM: If you need an e-mail or letter sent let me know.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 23, 2009, 12:13:41 PM: Quote from: Skyvalhunter on January 23, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
If you need an e-mail or letter sent let me know.

Yes please, thank you guys.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Machias on January 23, 2009, 12:14:46 PM: Quote from: WAcoyotehunter on January 23, 2009, 11:42:06 AM
mick.cope@dfw.wa.gov

I went straight to the small game manager. He's the one that drafted the plan...

public sentiment...what a joke that is.

Thanks for Mr. Cope's e-mail, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: bigdave on January 23, 2009, 12:17:54 PM: You bet!
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: dbllunger on January 23, 2009, 12:31:26 PM: Just sent one in total support. Just another exhample of WDFW is cutting their own neck and are too stupid to notice they are getting dizzy from lack of blood.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: FrankDown on January 24, 2009, 11:36:27 PM: I saw some guys up at the Mt Baker Sno area hunting coons with dogs. I was going to talk with them more but I didnt want to cut into the daylight as it was burning fast. I wanted to talk with them about it too. Soon no coons, no birds, rabbits, nothing...
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Jerbear on January 26, 2009, 09:15:45 PM: Count me in. We neeed unification. We have a young man on another thread that is suggesting to the game dept, that modern rifle be eliminated from the the August bear hunt. You know they are going to start it in Sept. Punish everyone for the act of one.
I hope we get a director that tunes an ear to us for a change. Public pressure should only be those that buy the tags, license, and all the other stuff required.
I will email Cope right away, and several times there after.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: dreamingbig on January 26, 2009, 09:18:06 PM: I am in; will send a follow up.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: Huntbear on January 26, 2009, 09:20:42 PM: My letter is supporting hound hunting. I feel all of us need to support each other, not bicker about this and that!!!!!
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: stumprat on January 28, 2009, 04:21:25 PM: Letters sent and phone calls made. Good luck buddy. :bash:
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: wazzuhunter on January 28, 2009, 06:21:13 PM: Never hunted coyotes with hounds but I've run into a few groups of people who do it. I don't see any reason not to allow hounds to run dogs. Last deer season I saw 59 in two days...don't really think there is a shortage. I have been coon hunting with hounds on numerous occasions and am a little worried that coon hunting with hounds will be banned next. I have pretty much lost hope in ever seeing cat hunting with hounds ever return. We are pretty lucky to even have several areas open for draw permits. Anyways, I wish the PETA tree huggin' hippie groups would understand that we are doing them a favor using hounds. They wouldn't have to worry about getting attacked while they were out nature biking or worry about their pet poodle FeeFee getting eaten.
Title: Re: How Many will Support Houndsmen?
Post by: FrankDown on January 28, 2009, 06:47:31 PM: They did it in California, now the mountain lions and bears have joined the coyotes in managing the numbers of moutnian bikers and hikers, as well as children out of arms reach. When I was in California I saw bit in KCal or soemthing from a security camera with a young kid shateboarding in a private gated community. The security camera caught a coyote trying to attack the kid. THeres many issues about coyotes in California.

I was camping at Joshua tree one winter and the coyotes were circling around outside my tent. My dog was inside my tent, he and my wife had a hard time sleeping withthem yipping and walking around outside the tent. THey never tried to come in the tent, and dont know what would have happened if they did. There had to be at least 4 or 5 of them. Occasionally I could see them touching the tent with their muzzle.