Post by: actionshooter on December 24, 2015, 09:35:16 PM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
Post by: Lucky1 on December 24, 2015, 09:43:33 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 24, 2015, 09:51:33 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on December 24, 2015, 09:58:04 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 24, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
Post by: Dan-o on December 24, 2015, 10:20:06 PM
1. The libs know that a winning tactic is to keep putting stuff up for votes. Some of it passes, and even the stuff that doesn't pass makes an impact by slowly chewing away at the foundation of the 2nd amendment.
2. The firearms manufacturing association plants these pieces of legislation to keep gun sales going...... You know Obama has sold more AR-15's than about everyone else combined......
Post by: actionshooter on December 24, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 25, 2015, 03:55:25 PM
To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. Short title.
This Act may be cited as the “Assault Weapons Ban of 2015”.
Sure as hell screams infringement from the get GO!!!!
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 25, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
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Post by: Bob33 on December 25, 2015, 04:04:26 PM
Someone help me out here. How did sawed off shotguns get banned but assault rifles are still legal? I can't figure out how that ever got passed?Short barreled shotguns were made illegal in the 1930s, long before "assault rifles" became commonplace.
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2015, 06:21:05 PM
By definition, an assault rifle must have a " selective fire switch ", otherwise, our BLACK GUNS are hunting rifles, plain and simple. The liberal leftist, most likely coined that assault rifle phrase years ago to get a rise out of the sheeple, who know absolutely nothing about weapons, period.
Not if they redefine the definition of an assault rifle, which it looks like that is eaxctly what they plan to do:
"“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
“(i) A pistol grip.
“(ii) A forward grip.
“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
“(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
“(v) A barrel shroud.
“(vi) A threaded barrel."
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 25, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
Don't all rifles have threaded barrels?
No they do not, as a matter of fact, there are barrels of all things, belonging to the dreaded and scary, AR-15, that are not threaded on either end.
One example here:
Post by: SCRUBS on December 25, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 25, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
Don't all rifles have threaded barrels?
No they do not, as a matter of fact, there are barrels of all things, belonging to the dreaded and scary, AR-15, that are not threaded on either end.
One example here:
What holds it a snap ring?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 25, 2015, 09:48:51 PM
Post by: DaveMonti on December 25, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 25, 2015, 10:02:07 PM
Someone help me out here. How did sawed off shotguns get banned but assault rifles are still legal? I can't figure out how that ever got passed?At the time of the NFA of 1934, it focused on sawed off shotguns (shot barreled) and sub-machineguns (tommy guns). The news media of the time was trying to freak everyone out about gangsters and bank robbers during prohibition/great depression. All the semi-autos stayed legal. Actual assault rifles didn't come about until halfway through WWII. The assault weapons were regulated in 1986. But the look a likes were next on the list and are now being called 'assault rifles'.
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
Don't all rifles have threaded barrels?
No they do not, as a matter of fact, there are barrels of all things, belonging to the dreaded and scary, AR-15, that are not threaded on either end.
One example here:
What holds it a snap ring?
Am quite sure you are aware, but in case you are being serious, AR barrels are not threaded into the upper receiver, like, say a Winchester or Remington.
Receiver on an AR is threaded and the barrel is secured with a barrel nut, no threads on the back of the barrel present or required to mount it.
And in a few cases, there are no threads on the front either for flash hider, suppressor, etc., as the one pictured.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 25, 2015, 10:26:47 PM
Don't all rifles have threaded barrels?
No they do not, as a matter of fact, there are barrels of all things, belonging to the dreaded and scary, AR-15, that are not threaded on either end.
One example here:
What holds it a snap ring?
Am quite sure you are aware, but in case you are being serious, AR barrels are not threaded into the upper receiver, like, say a Winchester or Remington.
Receiver on an AR is threaded and the barrel is secured with a barrel nut, no threads on the back of the barrel present or required to mount it.
And in a few cases, there are no threads on the front either for flash hider, suppressor, etc., as the one pictured.
I've never owned one so how would I know. :dunno:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
Have added pictures that hopefully show what I was saying.
You should get one, they are fun to put together and more fun to shoot, Merry Christmas!!
Post by: Shank on December 26, 2015, 10:58:19 AM
If the AR platform is banned, then does that mean law enforcement, doesn't get them either... Because we all know once they are banned. No one will have them. So no need for the LEO to have them either right......
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 26, 2015, 11:06:49 AM
There would still be grandfathered rifles, but from that bill text--retired LEOs could still get new versions if they left the service in good standing. Military wasn't exempt, but police were.
If the AR platform is banned, then does that mean law enforcement, doesn't get them either... Because we all know once they are banned. No one will have them. So no need for the LEO to have them either right......
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2015, 11:16:35 AM
There would still be grandfathered rifles, but from that bill text--retired LEOs could still get new versions if they left the service in good standing. Military wasn't exempt, but police were.
If the AR platform is banned, then does that mean law enforcement, doesn't get them either... Because we all know once they are banned. No one will have them. So no need for the LEO to have them either right......
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That's crap! :twocents:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 26, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
There would still be grandfathered rifles, but from that bill text--retired LEOs could still get new versions if they left the service in good standing. Military wasn't exempt, but police were.
If the AR platform is banned, then does that mean law enforcement, doesn't get them either... Because we all know once they are banned. No one will have them. So no need for the LEO to have them either right......
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That's crap! :twocents:
Exempt for rifles and magazines
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“(4) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
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“(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault weapon—
“(i) sold or transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or
“(ii) that the individual purchased, or otherwise obtained, for official use before such retirement;
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“(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device—
“(i) sold or transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or
“(ii) that the individual purchased, or otherwise obtained, for official use before such retirement;
Post by: Shank on December 26, 2015, 12:01:37 PM
LolThere would still be grandfathered rifles, but from that bill text--retired LEOs could still get new versions if they left the service in good standing. Military wasn't exempt, but police were.
If the AR platform is banned, then does that mean law enforcement, doesn't get them either... Because we all know once they are banned. No one will have them. So no need for the LEO to have them either right......
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That's crap! :twocents:
Exempt for rifles and magazinesQuote“(4) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—Quote“(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault weapon—
“(i) sold or transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or
“(ii) that the individual purchased, or otherwise obtained, for official use before such retirement;Quote“(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device—
“(i) sold or transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or
“(ii) that the individual purchased, or otherwise obtained, for official use before such retirement;
Soooo, really its not a ban, just selective on who can own/purchase....seems fair::)
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Post by: actionshooter on December 26, 2015, 06:39:24 PM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-assault-weapons-ban-2015-proposed-congressman-david-cicilline
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on December 27, 2015, 07:12:21 PM
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Post by: csaaphill on December 29, 2015, 06:17:18 PM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text
Post by: csaaphill on December 29, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
I have two competing theories about this, and I'm not sure which one I believe more:#1 is more correct :dunno:
1. The libs know that a winning tactic is to keep putting stuff up for votes. Some of it passes, and even the stuff that doesn't pass makes an impact by slowly chewing away at the foundation of the 2nd amendment.
2. The firearms manufacturing association plants these pieces of legislation to keep gun sales going...... You know Obama has sold more AR-15's than about everyone else combined......
Post by: csaaphill on December 29, 2015, 06:25:16 PM
yeah and thing is, that The reason for the machine gun ban back then was because of the ST Valentines day Massacre which was several years before they even passed the NFA act.Someone help me out here. How did sawed off shotguns get banned but assault rifles are still legal? I can't figure out how that ever got passed?At the time of the NFA of 1934, it focused on sawed off shotguns (shot barreled) and sub-machineguns (tommy guns). The news media of the time was trying to freak everyone out about gangsters and bank robbers during prohibition/great depression. All the semi-autos stayed legal. Actual assault rifles didn't come about until halfway through WWII. The assault weapons were regulated in 1986. But the look a likes were next on the list and are now being called 'assault rifles'.
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Which was about a year or two after Prohibition was repealed so the need to ban machine guns was null at the time Go figure :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 29, 2015, 06:46:15 PM
So a mass shooting led to a ban. Hmmmmmyeah and thing is, that The reason for the machine gun ban back then was because of the ST Valentines day Massacre which was several years before they even passed the NFA act.Someone help me out here. How did sawed off shotguns get banned but assault rifles are still legal? I can't figure out how that ever got passed?At the time of the NFA of 1934, it focused on sawed off shotguns (shot barreled) and sub-machineguns (tommy guns). The news media of the time was trying to freak everyone out about gangsters and bank robbers during prohibition/great depression. All the semi-autos stayed legal. Actual assault rifles didn't come about until halfway through WWII. The assault weapons were regulated in 1986. But the look a likes were next on the list and are now being called 'assault rifles'.
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Which was about a year or two after Prohibition was repealed so the need to ban machine guns was null at the time Go figure :dunno: :chuckle:
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Post by: csaaphill on December 29, 2015, 07:28:43 PM
technically no Prohibition lead to crime which lead to a mass shooting, which late lead to a gun ban. But correctly though it wasn't a complete ban just you had to get a stamp before owning one. Of which if you notice more laws gun laws basically have lead to more shootings, which have lead to more gun laws which have lead to more shootings.So a mass shooting led to a ban. Hmmmmmyeah and thing is, that The reason for the machine gun ban back then was because of the ST Valentines day Massacre which was several years before they even passed the NFA act.Someone help me out here. How did sawed off shotguns get banned but assault rifles are still legal? I can't figure out how that ever got passed?At the time of the NFA of 1934, it focused on sawed off shotguns (shot barreled) and sub-machineguns (tommy guns). The news media of the time was trying to freak everyone out about gangsters and bank robbers during prohibition/great depression. All the semi-autos stayed legal. Actual assault rifles didn't come about until halfway through WWII. The assault weapons were regulated in 1986. But the look a likes were next on the list and are now being called 'assault rifles'.
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Which was about a year or two after Prohibition was repealed so the need to ban machine guns was null at the time Go figure :dunno: :chuckle:
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trend? :dunno:
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 30, 2015, 06:53:26 AM