Post by: h20hunter on January 04, 2016, 08:18:07 AM
Post by: headshot5 on January 04, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 04, 2016, 08:21:20 AM
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Post by: CP on January 04, 2016, 08:42:27 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 04, 2016, 08:43:53 AM
Post by: ELKBURGER on January 04, 2016, 08:44:19 AM
Spray. Get her a homemade WASP spray can holder for her purse. :chuckle::yeah:
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 04, 2016, 08:46:08 AM
Post by: WARHORSE on January 04, 2016, 08:47:26 AM
Post by: ELKBURGER on January 04, 2016, 10:38:54 AM
Spray is neat and i guess if it makes you/her feel better to have somthing rather then nothing. That being said most over the counter sprays that i have seen over time wont work when discharged. Also the over the counter stuff and even the bear spray isnt the ouch factor of law enforcment spray and law enforcement spray is a great deterent but can also have little effect on a determined bad guy.The WASP spray can shoot to 25' with a fat stream and is plenty potent. Should keep a can within reach of the bed as well.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on January 04, 2016, 10:48:32 AM
buf if I had my druthers, it would be Aqua Net and a Zippo.
Post by: h20hunter on January 04, 2016, 10:53:15 AM
Post by: ELKBURGER on January 04, 2016, 10:53:44 AM
saw this post and was like, What's the point?I Like It!
buf if I had my druthers, it would be Aqua Net and a Zippo.
Post by: huntinguy on January 04, 2016, 11:13:51 AM
But, I do believe pepper spray under a certain amount... and I don't recall what that is, is not considered a weapon, under Washington state law, and does not fall under any weapon restriction... in short you can carry it almost anywhere.
If it has an edge or is for impact it is a weapon according to the law and it can be restricted.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 04, 2016, 11:25:03 AM
StreetWise Police Force Triple Defender 8500 Tactical Pepper Spray/Stun Gun/Flashlight Combo
Post by: huntnphool on January 04, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
That being said, in that unlikely situation, why would you have her risking her life, taking a chance and hoping that all that was needed was a taser/pepper spray/non lethal method?
IMO, if you both are seriously concerned that this situation could become reality, then get her a firearm and training to truly understand if the situation warrants pulling it out, and how to use it if she does.
I don't think I could live with myself if I had suggested "non lethal" means of protection and it didn't work in that situation. :twocents:
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2016, 11:25:54 AM
Better than spray with 13 ft. range.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MG63X6/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=84459059352&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7563970260716166375&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_8un49jabgb_b
Post by: h20hunter on January 04, 2016, 11:28:55 AM
Ghost...that's what I'm looking at currently as a good option.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
I pray that your wife is never put in a situation that she is in fear of her life and needs to use any kind of weapon to protect herself.
That being said, in that unlikely situation, why would you have her risking her life, taking a chance and hoping that all that was needed was a taser/pepper spray/non lethal method?
IMO, if you both are seriously concerned that this situation could become reality, then get her a firearm and training to truly understand if the situation warrants pulling it out, and how to use it if she does.
I don't think I could live with myself if I had suggested "non lethal" means of protection and it didn't work in that situation. :twocents:
I get it.
But we have to face the fact that some folks will never be comfortable with a gun, regardless of training. And no amount of common sense will make them comfortable.
It is not just carry a gun and get training. You have to have a mind set to carry every day. You have to have a talk with yourself about when and where you will draw and fire.
A gun will do not good if the person will not carry it or use it if needed.
Some folks will never get there. :twocents:
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2016, 11:31:29 AM
Ghost...that's what I'm looking at currently as a good option.
Holiday Sports.
Post by: runamuk on January 04, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 04, 2016, 11:35:05 AM
then get her training to truly understand if the situation warrants pulling it out, and how to use it if she does.
You have to have a talk with yourself about when and where you will draw and fire.
;)
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2016, 11:36:20 AM
They all enjoyed the class. But only one has considered to carry a gun everyday. A gun just doesn't fit their life.
They all carry the KImber.
Post by: huntnphool on January 04, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
I sent all the women in my family 6 To a handgun class. Provided 8 handguns for them. Paid for the class and dinner out for them before the class.
They all enjoyed the class. But only one has considered to carry a gun everyday. A gun just doesn't fit their life.
They all carry the KImber.
Good for you. :tup:
Post by: wannabhntr on January 04, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
I've been looking at the Pepperblaster2 by Kimber. Shoots a gel. Pretty nifty.As someone stated above go with spray. You have the distance and don't have to make physical contact. I would suggest staying away from gels and sprays. They can actually be wiped off of the guys face and thrown back at the victim.
Post by: runamuk on January 04, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
I made it my first 40 years not even owning guns (exposure to them when I was little up to about 13) I am one who gets it not everyone needs or wants a gun.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2016, 11:53:35 AM
A female manager of a popular Burger joint in Maysville was stabbed by a Homeless person she was trying to help in the business. She was inches away and no time to react even if she had the means.
You just never know. most folks cannot stay on alert that much.
Post by: b23 on January 04, 2016, 01:16:22 PM
My wife was never around guns of any kind, never even handled one before me. She didn't have any fears with them, which certainly helped, but her lack of knowledge about guns kept her confidence level low so you could obviously tell she was somewhat uncomfortable holding one because she was always very concerned about doing it right and would spend as much time looking at me and asking, "am I doing this right". I've been around guns my entire life, before I was even born they were a part of my family so my comfort level around them was substantially greater than my wife's but I'm not a "trained professional" and my wife and daughter or no different than most others. If I tell them something versus someone else telling them, chances are, depending on what it is, they'll listen to someone else before me and if that someone else happens to be considered an "expert" the more comfortable she'll be and the better she will listen.
After trying multiple different guns to find the one she felt the most confident with and shot the best, Ruger LCR 38+p, I signed her up for an all day class with Safe Insight. The class made a huge difference in her confidence level. She now handles a handgun very naturally and with confidence where before you could tell by the way she handled it she felt unsure of herself.
I think the mindset of being in a classroom setting with someone you view as a "professional" makes a considerable difference for some people and if that's all it takes to make someone feel more confident and comfortable with a handgun or just guns in general, IMO, it's money WELL spent. It certainly made a world of difference with my wife.
Post by: h20hunter on January 04, 2016, 01:29:13 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 04, 2016, 02:04:45 PM
I actually hate carrying its awkward doesn't really work with how I live my life. So I have a cpl and all but I have yet to find a firearm that I would be able to carry all the time.
I made it my first 40 years not even owning guns (exposure to them when I was little up to about 13) I am one who gets it not everyone needs or wants a gun.
No one needs a gun...until they do. I hope that someone who doesn't carry will never have to say "Oh crap! I sure wish I didn't have to die begging for my life."
Post by: Alchase on January 04, 2016, 07:08:39 PM
One of the best non-leathal defenses, is being aware of your surroundings.
That takes practice. Most people walk through lif totally oblivious to what is happening around them. A good self defense class will also promote situational awareness.
Lots of good books out as well.