Post by: grundy53 on January 13, 2016, 01:44:33 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1003319099735025&id=209374779129465
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 13, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
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Post by: grundy53 on January 13, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
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Post by: elkboy on January 13, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on January 13, 2016, 02:22:52 PM
Post by: 2MANY on January 13, 2016, 02:59:49 PM
They were a problem on my friends range land and mighty hard on the calving.
Glad they smoked em.
Post by: bobcat on January 13, 2016, 03:04:40 PM
Post by: JDHasty on January 13, 2016, 03:39:24 PM
The Forest Service has issued a statement here, with Salmon-Challis National Forest Supervisor Chuck Mark saying, “As the authorizing official, I take this matter very seriously."
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2016/jan/13/idaho-fish-game-collared-4-wolves-during-heli-trips-wilderness-violated-pact/
Post by: lokidog on January 13, 2016, 04:22:13 PM
Follow the signals and shoot the rest of the pack, simple!
Don't need the wolves collars, just follow the non-moving elk collars..... :(
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
helicopter crew: "10-04 we'll get back to you next week..the old contract language is acceptable, we'll bill you for 4 elk"
USFWS to IDFG: "Hey you idiots you collared wolves! That's not acceptable!! you could use the tracking information to kill the wolves!!"
IDFG director: "umm, we told them to collar Elk, we'll get back to you"
Helicopter crew: "sorry boss, we couldn't find any Elk so thought we'd collar some wolves for you instead - my bad"
:DOH:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 13, 2016, 04:58:18 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on January 13, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 13, 2016, 10:00:52 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 13, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on January 13, 2016, 10:15:14 PM
Naches, but it was only an accident. :chuckle:
*censored*!! :chuckle: :bash:
It looks bad when the usfs is getting sued for not keeping the wilderness quiet. Seriously give them a stern warning. If they violate the specifications of the special use permit again, ground all flights and lay the book at them.
In my opinion, bios are just too damn lazy these days to walk in.
That earthjustice attorney is on something! :chuckle:
Fixed it if you are referring to me. Leave the wilderness wild. I like to enjoy my piece and quiet in nature
Post by: JDHasty on January 14, 2016, 08:49:37 AM
Naches, but it was only an accident. :chuckle:
*censored*!! :chuckle: :bash:
It looks bad when the usfs is getting sued for not keeping the wilderness quiet. Seriously give them a stern warning. If they violate the specifications of the special use permit again, ground all flights and lay the book at them.
In my opinion, bios are just too damn lazy these days to walk in.That earthjustice attorney is on something! :chuckle:
Fixed it if you are referring to me. Leave the wilderness wild. I like to enjoy my piece and quiet in nature
When I am enjoying my piece in nature it kinda' makes it not so quiet.
Post by: MuleDeer on January 14, 2016, 09:05:24 AM
You do realize they were going in to collar elk/wolves/whatever, right? That is not possible on foot alone. For the purposes of collaring, the helicopters are needed for corralling the animals and/or flushing them out of cover. Walking in is not an option.....unless you can teach them how to catch elk on foot, by hand.Naches, but it was only an accident. :chuckle:
*censored*!! :chuckle: :bash:
It looks bad when the usfs is getting sued for not keeping the wilderness quiet. Seriously give them a stern warning. If they violate the specifications of the special use permit again, ground all flights and lay the book at them.
In my opinion, bios are just too damn lazy these days to walk in.That earthjustice attorney is on something! :chuckle:
Fixed it if you are referring to me. Leave the wilderness wild. I like to enjoy my piece and quiet in nature
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on January 14, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
I agree that Wilderness should be quiet, which is one reason they timed the capture for winter. I also think we need to be realistic in our expectations for wilderness. I would support some limited chainsaw use for trails, helicopter use for situations like this, and other projects that make sense. It's not like this was a recreational project. We need to be paying attention to the herds too.Naches, but it was only an accident. :chuckle:
*censored*!! :chuckle: :bash:
It looks bad when the usfs is getting sued for not keeping the wilderness quiet. Seriously give them a stern warning. If they violate the specifications of the special use permit again, ground all flights and lay the book at them.
In my opinion, bios are just too damn lazy these days to walk in.That earthjustice attorney is on something! :chuckle:
Fixed it if you are referring to me. Leave the wilderness wild. I like to enjoy my piece and quiet in nature
Capturing elk on foot or horseback is pretty tough.... I don't think it has anything to do with "lazy bios".
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 14, 2016, 11:43:12 AM
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Post by: idahohuntr on January 14, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
This is the frank church we are talking about. How many cessnas and other small crafts fly in there and land every day during hunting season. Why are they making a big deal out of helicopters flying in to collar animals for research anyway?:yeah: :chuckle:
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The Frank in the summer and fall is probably only slightly behind Sea-Tac in volume of air traffic.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 14, 2016, 12:02:05 PM
Naches, but it was only an accident. :chuckle:
*censored*!! :chuckle: :bash:
It looks bad when the usfs is getting sued for not keeping the wilderness quiet. Seriously give them a stern warning. If they violate the specifications of the special use permit again, ground all flights and lay the book at them.
In my opinion, bios are just too damn lazy these days to walk in.That earthjustice attorney is on something! :chuckle:
Fixed it if you are referring to me. Leave the wilderness wild. I like to enjoy my piece and quiet in nature
My response was in reference to the Associated Press release Hasty posted. Not implying you are with earthjustice. I agree keep the wilderness wild, and wolf free. I like my peace and quiet as well.
Post by: 2MANY on January 14, 2016, 12:05:52 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on January 14, 2016, 09:19:36 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 14, 2016, 09:57:26 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 14, 2016, 10:07:13 PM
Do they take all their wolf gear when they go out to do elk stuff? (like use the same collars and same dose of tranquilizers) I'd assume that when doing wolf ops, they have the carnivore bios along?
Just hope they are getting good data.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on January 14, 2016, 10:36:26 PM
Does anyone think IDFG was collaring them to track the pack and thin them out later on? Make them easier to find aerial hunting? One could only wish...Yes, probably. Collared wolves are often used as a Judas animal to the pack.