Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2016, 07:34:47 AM
Looking to take my daughters turkey hunting and wondering if there is such a thing as screw in chokes that are made like a brake that would help with recoil? They have 12 gauge benellis and are use to the lighter loads for clays but
would like to see about helping them out with heavier turkey loads
Thanks
Post by: CP on January 18, 2016, 07:44:11 AM
Better methods for reducing felt recoil are:
Stock fit
Mercury or mechanical dampers
Recoil pads
Semi-auto vs fixed breech action
Increase the weight of the gun
reduce the load
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2016, 07:52:17 AM
Post by: CP on January 18, 2016, 07:58:40 AM
I've been taking youth hunters out for turkey for some years now and one thing I do with my kids is never let them feel a full power load. They shoot 2 3/4" target loads at 10 and 20 yards for practice until they get comfortable handling the gun. Then when you go afield you toss a turkey load in and they never know the difference. When shooting at a bird the adrenaline will absorb all the recoil. It's been a very effective method for my hunters. Also stay away from 3 1/2".
That’s good advice.
The effects of recoil are cumulative and turkey hunting generally only requires one shot. It’s a lot different than taking a repeated pounding while shooting trap or duck hunting.
Also, turkeys are not as hard to kill as ammo companies would have you believe. You don’t need 2 ounces of shot traveling at 1500+ fps to kill a turkey.
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2016, 08:14:10 AM
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Do you reload for said shotgun? I have a great load that has worked very well for my niece hunting turkey. I'd be happy to share with you. The load has killed several turkey last youth season.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2016, 08:15:49 AM
Same reason I hand load extremely reduced recoil loads for the rifles for my youth hunters. Time behind the trigger is soooo important for young hunters, so if you can make it a positive and fun experience they are more apt to want to continue it it.
Post by: CP on January 18, 2016, 08:37:25 AM
Could send your barrel to vang comp.
https://vangcomp.com/portfolio-item/demo-sierra-farm/
Don’t waste your money. I own a couple sets of ported shotgun barrels and they do nothing to reduce recoil.
The easiest and cheapest method to reduce recoil is to add weight to the stock. Most shotguns have a hole drilled in the stock. Put something heavy in that. Fill an empty shotshell with lead pellets, crimp it and stick it in the hole. You can probably fit 2 or 3 in there. Each one will add about 3.5 ounces to the gun.
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
the vang comp is more than just porting.Could send your barrel to vang comp.
https://vangcomp.com/portfolio-item/demo-sierra-farm/
Don’t waste your money. I own a couple sets of ported shotgun barrels and they do nothing to reduce recoil.
The easiest and cheapest method to reduce recoil is to add weight to the stock. Most shotguns have a hole drilled in the stock. Put something heavy in that. Fill an empty shotshell with lead pellets, crimp it and stick it in the hole. You can probably fit 2 or 3 in there. Each one will add about 3.5 ounces to the gun.
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 18, 2016, 10:44:08 AM
The way I test loads is I shoot one at close range (5-10y) just to make sure POI is on, then I just immediately back it out to 40 yards. I shoot a 10" circle. If they don't group at 40, I move on to a new load or new choke.
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Post by: CP on January 18, 2016, 11:11:13 AM
Thanks guys for the info and offers to help with handload info.They both shoot .257 Roberts and .50 muzzies and I was thinking they needed the heavy 3 1/2 in. Loads good to know they don't.Any suggestions on factory loads? We are going to be hunting with Jarrod at Ovgs and hoping the shots won't be to long. Thanks
For recoil sensitive I’d look for something around 1 ¼ oz at 1200 fps #5 or #6 shot – such as Federal Heavy Field loads. That’s plenty for turkeys at reasonable ranges. Or even 1 1/8 oz - same recoil as a heavy trap load.
http://www.basspro.com/Federal-Premium-GameShok-Upland-Game-Heavy-Field-Load-Shotshells/product/120829053333616/
Post by: CP on January 18, 2016, 11:22:22 AM
Is it usually full choke for turkeys
Yes, you want as tight a pattern as you can get.
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
Post by: tgomez on January 18, 2016, 08:31:56 PM
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2016, 08:35:30 PM
I use the modified choke that came with my Remington 870 Express, and can dump em up to 40 yards. I like using 3" #5 Winchester Double X turkey loads. Seems to do me just fine with my 28" barrel.exactly what I use for my self. I've dropped them out to 40 yards no problem with xfull and 18 1/2" barrel. Thou in my light shotgun( weatherby PA459) it kicks like a mule. But I never feel it if I'm aiming at a tom :ibcool:
Post by: huntnfmly on January 21, 2016, 04:51:22 AM
Post by: RadSav on January 21, 2016, 05:22:21 AM
What is considered a good pattern? Certain percentage of shot on target?
This video is pretty good for first time turkey hunters getting their gun set up and understanding it's effective range -
I got the 20 gauge all set for turkey the first year Hevi-Shot released their Magnum Blend. This load carries 5, 6 and 7. I combine it with a Primos Jelly Head choke. And while I have only killed turkey with my bow since then, I have loaned it on many occasions and it seems to be deadly medicine on poor Ole' Tom.
Post by: Craig on January 21, 2016, 07:40:08 AM
Post by: jasnt on January 21, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
Will a semi auto Benelli have less felt recoil then a pump action if shooting the same load?yes