Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 11:42:09 AM
Needs to be ran by AA batteries because everything else in my pack runs off AA's.
Small enough to fit in shirt pocket for obvious reasons.
Like cost to be under $150.00
Take a SD memory card.
Truely a point and click with the close up feature.
Post by: robodad on January 26, 2009, 12:26:24 PM
Great P&S with image stabilization. Takes really good photos. Lens is a 36-360mm f2.8-4.3 so it is quite fast in low light and really clear !! 8.0 MP 10X optical zoom forget about the digital zoom they are useless. Only one drawback is it doesn't shoot in RAW which is no biggie for some !!!
Post by: Grizzly95 on January 26, 2009, 12:53:26 PM
Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 01:10:40 PM
Post by: Grizzly95 on January 26, 2009, 01:21:14 PM
Post by: robodad on January 26, 2009, 01:32:17 PM
Both should be able to take very good photos out to 4x zoom but the 580 stops there and the 100IS goes all the way to 10 times closer which is huge especially with animal pics and employs an image stabilization feature which improves image quality immensely especially for those long shots.
If I were you I would get the 100is just because of those features but if you don't care about seeing a long ways off and are a pretty steady camera holder or use a tripod then the 580 should do fine !!!
Post by: Slider on January 26, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Powershot-SX110IS-Stabilized-Black/dp/B001EQ4C8U/ref=dp_cp_ob_p_title_0
Post by: huntnphool on January 26, 2009, 07:25:02 PM
Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 07:32:07 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 26, 2009, 07:37:43 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,17434.0.html
Post by: robodad on January 26, 2009, 07:49:11 PM
ROBO, does it have the ability to shoot RAW? DBL, I would look for one that does if it is a matter of $50.00 :twocents:
No it doesn't Rob and that was one of the drawbacks I pointed out earlier, I personally shoot all pics in raw but there are some that don't and wouldn't know where to begin. If I didn't do any post processing I would rather have the IS then the ability to shoot in RAW if it is about $50.
Personally I am selling a bunch of my stuff so I can afford a $950 lens but shooting great photos is quite a bit more important to me then some folks !! I want both !!! :chuckle:
Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Post by: robodad on January 26, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Thanks...I read popes post and it was informative. WAY more advanced then I want. I checked out the 500.00 Canon, and did not see the RAW feature. So what does that feature cost extra? Is RAW labeled as something else in the features or what "Spec" should I be looking for to know it shoots in RAW. Would be a nice feature as I have screwed up a few shots that could probably have been made to look great.
Best I can explain is it is a format that does not compress your digital photos, (jpeg compresses them and degrades them as it does) and allows for post processes that are not possible with jpeg (white balance, exposure values, etc...) so you have much more freedom when touching up your pictures in RAW format. I know there is many more advantages to RAW files but just think of it as your digital negitive like the film negetives that were necessary to generate a great image from a not so great image.
Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
Post by: robodad on January 26, 2009, 09:43:48 PM
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp)
Here is a good place to start and when you decide on one you can look up its specs right there. Look under buying guides and you'll see a side by side comparison menu then just put some cameras in there and see which one is better !!!
Post by: dbllunger on January 26, 2009, 10:05:51 PM
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 27, 2009, 03:34:50 AM
Have you ever looked at or purchased from refurbdepot before?
They have a cannon eos rebel xti for 425....... they say retails for 1450.
Not that I have the $$ to buy it now... but I will keep my eyes on that site if you think they are ok to deal with.
I also just found the Cannon G9 for 370. reading the info from your link this is a good camera, I think,
Post by: robodad on January 27, 2009, 08:04:23 AM
Robo, you got me looking at cameras now... :bash:
Have you ever looked at or purchased from refurbdepot before?
They have a cannon eos rebel xti for 425....... they say retails for 1450.
Not that I have the $$ to buy it now... but I will keep my eyes on that site if you think they are ok to deal with.
I also just found the Cannon G9 for 370. reading the info from your link this is a good camera, I think,
That is an excellent camera, I have the Xt and it has been great, however you should read this site if you are considering an online purchase http://www.resellerratings.com/store/refurbdepot (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/refurbdepot) there is a place to find out reviews on any online reseller, just type in the name of the company and it will give you more information then you want to read about any company !!!
That camera will do you just fine and you should be able to find one on craigslist reasonable enough, or if it has to be a new one look at Walmart, they usually carry those and they are pretty inexpensive, the lens you get with them is not really great but you were going to upgrade that anyways right !! ;)
Post by: Al Bundy on January 28, 2009, 06:52:15 AM
Post by: dbllunger on January 29, 2009, 10:38:24 PM
Post by: robodad on January 29, 2009, 10:41:23 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 30, 2009, 08:41:58 PM
Post by: Grizzle on February 05, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
Is there a Canon that shoots RAW within $50.00 of the 100IS or A590?
Thanks
Post by: columbiaman on February 06, 2009, 10:54:18 AM
Post by: robodad on February 06, 2009, 02:27:57 PM
I got lost in the middle of the thread.....
Is there a Canon that shoots RAW within $50.00 of the 100IS or A590?
Thanks
You'll have to post up a price range and we'll let you know what we find !!
Post by: luvtohnt on February 09, 2009, 04:10:41 PM
Brandon
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 09, 2009, 04:13:20 PM
Post by: robodad on February 09, 2009, 04:33:35 PM
nope...just a few like this.
I was replying to your post with the kitty about the Canon 10IS 20X but now I see it is deleted or moved or something !!! :dunno:
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 09, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Panasonic makes a good P&S with a good lens and raw too...
I wouldn't buy a camera that I'm taking serious photos with that does not shoot raw format. Expecially since P&S cameras are prone to wierd exposure and such that can be fixed later... :twocents:
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 10, 2009, 08:27:18 AM
Canon Powershot SX10IS 10MP Digital Camera with 20x Wide Angle Optical Image Stabilized Zoom
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 10, 2009, 10:49:46 AM
ISO-400
f5.2 aperture
1/40th shutter speed
When you look at the photo the color balance is off. The camera was probably set to auto color balance so there isn't a lot that can be done about it. Do you see the cold blue color in the whole photo? It needs warmth. You can do a bit of that with a jpg but if you had this shot in raw you could just change the white balance and it would be fixed automatically.
The next issue is that it is kind of blurry. Part of this is the cheap lens on the camera but the main issue is camera shake. The camera was not at a fast enough shutter speed at 1/40th to stop the action and movement of the camera. Some of this could have been prevented, however. The f5.2 aperture isn't the fastest aperture but it's the fastest that camera has for that focal length. The ISO could have been changed, however. Had you put the ISO at 800 or 1600, you would have 1 to 2 more stops of light. This would have changed your shutter speed from 1/40th to 1/80th at ISO 800 or 1/160th at ISO 1600. Now, any photo at these higher ISO settings would have been more grainy/noisy, but at least the shot would have been sharp. The camera has image stabilization. If you had it on it doesn't work well or maybe you didn't have it on...?
This is the problem when you have a P&S camera on auto. They select the settings for you and they got it wrong. When I put my cameras on auto they rarely ever set the settings correctly. This is the reason I like the creative control of using aperture priority and setting the ISO myself. Some cameras do it, some don't. It doesn't look like this camera does but I think you can manually set the ISO...
Post by: robodad on February 10, 2009, 11:00:01 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 10, 2009, 11:09:40 AM
OK I am a bit confused on this cause originally he said that this photo was taken with another camera and just wanted information on the canon and if it could have improved this photo but now it appears that the photo was taken with the canon ?? :dunno:
You were right the first time robo- the camera I had along was a cheapo and I was looking into buying the canon model that I posted. Do you know anything about that model?
The camera I used was a Sony Cyber Shot 8.1 megapixel set at all auto settings and zoomed in. The cat was probably 20'+- feet away.
Thanks for the info Pope, I wish I would have had a good camera along, i thought this picture had potential to be a good one. You're right about the jpg being tough to work with. I can't seem to get this photo much better than it is now.
Post by: robodad on February 10, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
Shawn definitely has more information then I do on this subject so you better wait to hear from him on it but I don't think you would go wrong with the SX10IS, getting one that will shoot RAW is better though if you can afford it !!!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 10, 2009, 11:46:13 AM
As for IS and RAW...? I like both. Generally if your camera can shoot RAW it has IS.
Really, the main problem with this shot is that the camera doesn't have the ability to set the settings manually. If I were to shoot this scene with my camera and those settings popped up, I would have adjusted my ISO quickly to get a faster shutter speed. I'm not sure you have that latitude with many P&S cameras. That is why I like the G9/10 from Canon so much. It's like a mini dslr, shoots RAW, has IS, and gives you aperture priority to control exposure.
All this being said, my wife has a Canon digital elph, like a 8mp P&S. It does not have IS or RAW capability. We take it places and use it but I understand the limitations with it. Sometimes I get good shots and sometimes I don't.