Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 01:29:39 PM
Heck, I don't have a clue. I got a couple in a gift basket a few years ago and have never used either one - that is one of the concerns I had regarding the thing and the other is that with me patches are like toilet paper, one pass and no more.
This Bore Snake is 100% within the bore of the gun (204 Ruger) and there is no string to grab w/Vise Grip either. So far there has been no resort to drill rod and mallet, which is what I was concerned about when first approached.
Post by: Henrydog on February 08, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on February 08, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
I assume it is a bolt. Remove the bolt and put .22 cleaning rod down the bore?:yeah: Just make sure it's going in the same direction the bore snake is going.
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 01:55:10 PM
I assume it is a bolt. Remove the bolt and put .22 cleaning rod down the bore?:yeah: Just make sure it's going in the same direction the bore snake is going.
That was my inclination, just wasn't sure pushing on it, instead of pulling on it, wouldn't cause it to get tighter. He says he has been using them for a while, so I assume it is the correct size.
Post by: bobcat on February 08, 2016, 02:00:09 PM
Post by: Henrydog on February 08, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
A 22 caliber cleaning rod is too big for a 204 caliber rifle.
You are correct. I don't own anything smaller than .22, but they have to make cleaning rods for the .17's
Post by: syoungs on February 08, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
Post by: C-Money on February 08, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
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Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 03:01:50 PM
Post by: M_ray on February 08, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
Post by: C-Money on February 08, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 03:11:35 PM
might have to bite the bullet so to speak and pull it back out the wrong way :dunno: Will this really damage it too bad if it is a one time deal? :dunno:
Nothing to get hold of on either end is what I hear.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 08, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
Brass being soft shouldn't hurt the bore, just not sure if it would be stiff enough unless you used short sections, each one getting longer so you aren't trying to drive a long, full-length, flexible rod, if that makes sense.
Post by: winshooter88 on February 08, 2016, 03:18:53 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 03:19:13 PM
How about a brass welding rod fairly tight to bore diameter, lots of wd-40 or other spray lube down the barrel on the both ends to help, then tap through with a hammer?
Brass being soft shouldn't hurt the bore, just not sure if it would be stiff enough unless you used short sections, each one getting longer so you aren't trying to drive a long, full-length, flexible rod, if that makes sense.
Eeeegads, that is what I was thinking or how about trying to dissolve the nylon - so I did an internet search (dissolves nylon) and.... the first thing that came up was this:
I have a problem and I need some help. I have a very expensive rifle barrel that is chrome lined. I have a piece of braided nylon rope firmly stuck in the barrel. The rope is a cleaning tool known as a bore snake, and there is about 12" of it stuck about 6" inside the middle of the barrel.
A good friend gave me instructions on how to tap the snake out, but I managed to screw that up and instead, I've compacted the rope up so bad it will not budge either direction.
At this point, I am convinced my only option is to try and dissolve the nylon while it is still in the barrel. Let me repeat, this is an expensive steel barrel, and I need to accomplish this without damaging this barrel.
Are there any steel safe chemicals that I can pour in the barrel, that will dissolve the nylon without harming the steel. It is important that you be aware the snake is completely soaked with WD-40. I sprayed it into the barrel over a period of days until it soaked through to the other side.
Help? The guy who made this barrel doesn't make them anymore, and I really can't replace it!
Thanks!
-SS
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I will not post a link because the thread was laced with profanity, but it looks like I was correct and any attempt to push it out is just going to wedge it even tighter.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 08, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Or heat a very small, but stiff welding rod and try pushing it through, causing the center to melt/sofen from the inside out???
Or maybe that might backfire and have a Boresnake and a steel rod stuck....
Maybe its just time for a new barrel....too bad it is apparently a special one on it now!
Post by: pd on February 08, 2016, 03:36:02 PM
That is the best I can do. Good luck.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on February 08, 2016, 03:39:34 PM
I would think that would be a hard part to source though. im not into airguns, but they might have something designed to pull stuck objects/pellets that's simmiliar?
I have one for my .177 airguns. They are pretty stiff, but you'd probably get enough deflection to get steel on rifling contact. Maybe you could wrap it with some scotch tape first. PM me if you want to borrow it.
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 03:40:48 PM
I am glad this isn't my problem.
Post by: lewy on February 08, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Weld a screw to a long metal rod and put it in a drill....screw it into the compressed nylon and pull? worth a try, find a screw with very aggressive threads
I am thinking the same thing, and maybe wrap a little electrical tape around the drill rod to keep it all centered.
Post by: tjthebest on February 08, 2016, 04:06:29 PM
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Or heat a very small, but stiff welding rod and try pushing it through, causing the center to melt/sofen from the inside out???
Or maybe that might backfire and have a Boresnake and a steel rod stuck....
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Do this with the stiff welding rod but just heat up the end red hot and stick it a few inches into the boresnake and let it cool. At this point it should be welded/bonded to the nylon and you can try and pull it out.
Post by: 2labs on February 08, 2016, 04:07:44 PM
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Post by: h20hunter on February 08, 2016, 04:20:25 PM
Post by: 2labs on February 08, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
Terrible ideas, all of them. Get a flute, a bamboo mat, and a bit of 8ncense. Charm that sucker outta there.
:tup: winner chicken diner
Post by: Curly on February 08, 2016, 04:34:29 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: REHJWA on February 08, 2016, 05:24:34 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on February 08, 2016, 07:57:50 PM
Post by: whacker1 on February 08, 2016, 08:12:01 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 08, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
How far in the barrel is the bottom side? Could a gunsmith remove the barrel from the action and get access or closer access just inside the lands?
I haven't seen it. The guy came looking for me this morning and I wasn't of much use, or maybe I was. He had not got to digging around with a screw driver or anything and I convinced him to just leave it alone until we can come up with a rational game plan.
Post by: Bob33 on February 08, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
Post by: kentrek on February 08, 2016, 09:01:33 PM
How about a jag on a 17 HMR rod?
What do you mean by a jag ?
If its what I'm thinking then thats on the lines of what I'm thinking too...thread on something to a carbon rod that you can screw into the bore sneak and pull it on out
Post by: jasnt on February 09, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
Post by: C-Money on February 09, 2016, 10:42:46 AM
If you ever use a bore snake again tie a strong string or rope (paracord comes to mind) to the tail end which normally has a loop at the back.
Great idea!
Post by: KNOPHISH on February 09, 2016, 10:43:33 AM
Post by: whacker1 on February 09, 2016, 10:45:14 AM
wondering where the tail of the snake is? I have a couple & they are longer than the barrel. I can see the pull string breaking but should be some left out the back. I'd pull it backwards but I hear there is nothing to pull. Was it like a half a bore snake he cut in half?
seems to me that he probably had it about 2/3 of the way through and broke off in the middle or thereabouts. I am just guessing that is the case.
Post by: jackelope on February 09, 2016, 11:06:28 AM
Well now that I think about it, this is probably a great idea if you could fit all of that stuff down a .204 barrel. Nevermind.
:sry:
Post by: whacker1 on February 09, 2016, 01:57:21 PM
https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+remove+a+stuck+boresnake
Well now that I think about it, this is probably a great idea if you could fit all of that stuff down a .204 barrel. Nevermind.
:sry:
just need a smaller screw. This is the only idea that I have liked so far.
Post by: raisen2 on February 09, 2016, 05:07:54 PM
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Post by: JDHasty on February 09, 2016, 09:53:23 PM
They bought a piece of drill rod and hooked up with another buddy of mine this evening. He welded a 1-1/2" long really fine wood screw onto the drill rod and they soaped up the screw with a bar of soap and very carefully, through a bore guide, screwed it into the bore snake and were able to pull it out backwards enough to get hold of the loop in the end of it and then yanked it out.
They said it took a heck of a pull to get it to move, and once it was coming they kept it coming.
Post by: M_ray on February 09, 2016, 10:09:26 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 09, 2016, 10:29:47 PM
Success!!
They bought a piece of drill rod and hooked up with another buddy of mine this evening. He welded a 1-1/2" long really fine wood screw onto the drill rod and they soaped up the screw with a bar of soap and very carefully, through a bore guide, screwed it into the bore snake and were able to pull it out backwards enough to get hold of the loop in the end of it and then yanked it out.
They said it took a heck of a pull to get it to move, and once it was coming they kept it coming.
That'll be $2 please.
Glad it worked out.
Post by: C-Money on February 10, 2016, 06:47:50 AM
Post by: JDHasty on February 10, 2016, 08:18:25 AM
Post by: REHJWA on February 10, 2016, 09:02:39 AM