Post by: Pny365 on February 23, 2016, 09:04:21 PM
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Post by: jackelope on February 23, 2016, 09:17:00 PM
:chuckle: That's a question I wasn't expecting for another 20 to 25 years. Must have made a good witness ;)
Twice!
Post by: idahohuntr on February 23, 2016, 09:19:36 PM
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Post by: Pny365 on February 23, 2016, 09:27:10 PM
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Post by: Reidus on February 23, 2016, 10:16:47 PM
Colockum September rifle tag
Tucannon or Dayton would also be good.
Post by: emac on February 23, 2016, 10:28:09 PM
Sounds like you need someone to apply with? :chuckle:Wish I would of thought of that
Colockum September rifle tag
Tucannon or Dayton would also be good.
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Post by: Reidus on February 24, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
One thing to keep in mind is that these quality tags are no gimme for a big bull. People seem to get a perception that there's a big bull behind every tree in these quality units. Be prepared to hunt hard if you want a trophy.
Post by: Woodchuck on February 24, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 24, 2016, 09:47:28 AM
Figure you have a 36 times greater chance than the average "assume 6 points guy". So in a unit with 1000 applicants and 10 tags odds "on average" are 1:100 but your odds are 36 times better than average or 1:3 or basically you should draw this year or next with any luck :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
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Post by: bugs n bones on February 24, 2016, 09:58:25 AM
If I had 36 points I don't think I'd be applying for Dayton. Maybe, but I think there are better options out there.:yeah:
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Post by: 2MANY on February 24, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
or
36 = 2 X 18
or
36 = 3 X 12
or
36 = 4 X 9
or
36 = 6 X 6
I hope this helps and I wish you luck a going datin.
Post by: UBA on February 24, 2016, 10:22:34 AM
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Post by: coachcw on February 24, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 24, 2016, 12:20:25 PM
36 = 1 x 36
or
36 = 2 X 18
or
36 = 3 X 12
or
36 = 4 X 9
or
36 = 6 X 6
I hope this helps and I wish you luck a going datin.
:yeah:
"Datin Quality Elk" :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on February 24, 2016, 12:24:41 PM
If you know the Dayton area that is what I would hunt. If you don't have a honey hole I would find someone that does and put in for whatever area that is in.
Post by: Bob33 on February 24, 2016, 12:39:14 PM
Average points per application was 7.8. There were about 1,300 applications and about 75,000 names in the hat. With 36 points you would have 1,296 names in the hat; there were 14 permits in 2014.
Post by: Jimmy33 on February 24, 2016, 12:55:06 PM
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Post by: Rainier10 on February 24, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
I would hunt dayton or wenaha: however, the easiest hunt would be the colockum. Contrary to what was said above, if you cant shoot a decent bull in the colockum, you probably shouldn't hunt anymore. The colockum hunt is in fact a gimme...I hear what you are saying but I am not sure anything is a gimme. I know a guy that ate the colockum archery tag this year. Sometimes things just don't go your way.
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Post by: daddyelk on February 24, 2016, 01:04:25 PM
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Post by: X-Force on February 24, 2016, 02:08:47 PM
Not to blow all of your guys illusions about washingtons draw system, but he still has long odds, albeit better than mine. Lol
What do you mean bone! He has 36 points he should be guaranteed a premium tag. :chuckle:
You gotta love the Washington draw system.
2014
Permits Applicants Average Draw Not Drawn
QUALITY ELK 1,070 29,529 7.16 28,459
In all seriousness good luck to the applicant. He did the right thing and got rewarded for it. :tup:
Post by: coachcw on February 24, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Post by: 2MANY on February 24, 2016, 02:27:51 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on February 24, 2016, 05:17:02 PM
With 36 points you would have had approximately a 20% odds of drawing a Dayton rifle bull permit in 2014.
Average points per application was 7.8. There were about 1,300 applications and about 75,000 names in the hat. With 36 points you would have 1,296 names in the hat; there were 14 permits in 2014.
Thanks. I was hoping someone would actually apply math to the conversation: 1,300/75,000 x 14 = 24.3%. That simple math problem doesn't account for the decrease in the "hat" as the first 13 names are drawn and assumes 75,000 is the correct number. However, he also gets a second choice, so he gets to add the odds of the second choice to his first choice to get overall odds of getting drawn for either permit hunt. I love risk analysis.
Post by: Pny365 on February 24, 2016, 06:02:04 PM
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Post by: Rainier10 on February 24, 2016, 06:23:57 PM
I only put in for 328, that is where my cabin is and where I want to hunt, no point in putting in for other areas that I could draw easier. If I do get drawn some day it will be in the area I know and want to kill one.
Good luck on the draw for the next however many years it takes.
Post by: Watimberghost on February 24, 2016, 06:26:55 PM
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Post by: Maverick on February 24, 2016, 06:51:48 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 24, 2016, 06:53:32 PM
I had 37 points several years ago, didn't West Wenaha that year. I drew the following year with 38 points. Sadly I ate my tag, passed a couple "smaller" bulls, heavy snows hit, I couldn't find a replacement bull, still sick over it. But I'd do it again, and I'd do West Wenaha again definitely! My :twocents:
Dang no pressure there burnin 38 points :yike: Good Opportunity tho !!!!!
Post by: Moose Master on February 24, 2016, 07:06:20 PM
Post by: Branden on February 24, 2016, 07:21:39 PM
If I had 36 points I think I would apply with a friend so I'd have someone to hunt with :twocents:
I would not apply as a group. My brother and I drew quality bull tags this year as partners and it was tough trying to kill two good bulls. He killed his on day 18 and I killed mine on day 20. But after he killed his I was just going for a decent bull.
If I could hunt anywhere it would probably be the Wenaha East. Big country in there for bulls to grow up and get some age on them. Maybe even do muzzy instead of rifle so you can hunt the rut.
Regards, Branden
Post by: Antlershed on February 24, 2016, 08:31:39 PM
How many points did you guys average?If I had 36 points I think I would apply with a friend so I'd have someone to hunt with :twocents:
I would not apply as a group. My brother and I drew quality bull tags this year as partners and it was tough trying to kill two good bulls. He killed his on day 18 and I killed mine on day 20. But after he killed his I was just going for a decent bull.
If I could hunt anywhere it would probably be the Wenaha East. Big country in there for bulls to grow up and get some age on them. Maybe even do muzzy instead of rifle so you can hunt the rut.
Regards, Branden
Post by: Mossyoak on February 24, 2016, 09:45:54 PM
Post by: Reidus on February 24, 2016, 09:51:24 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2016, 10:00:57 PM
I don't think there's any rifle rut tags for the blues other than the raffle or auction tags.
There are some. Well, at least one, but it's all private ground.
Post by: PlateauNDN on February 25, 2016, 09:02:04 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on February 25, 2016, 09:11:06 AM
Wow, ate a colockum sept tag??? That'd be tough, I seen a couple spots with some decent 350 and higher bulls during that time frame that I eyed but I had to break myself and concentrate on my tag. :chuckle:It was archery not the rifle rut but yeah that was a tough one for him to swallow. It happens, I don't think anything is ever a "gimme" or a "sure thing".
Post by: Gringo31 on February 25, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 25, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
If I had 36 points I don't think I'd be applying for Dayton. Maybe, but I think there are better options out there.:yeah:
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Post by: Pinetar on February 26, 2016, 03:09:43 PM
Archery hunts are never a gimme. I could see eating a cloc. TAG if a guy was hunting a stud . You can't kill a giant if you stick a average bull . Hunter pressure and the rut can change your plans in a minute once that bull you scouted all summer gets on his feet.
Yeah that!!! It can certainly happen with a bow in your hands.