Post by: coachcw on February 24, 2016, 09:36:47 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 24, 2016, 09:41:55 AM
Post by: 2MANY on February 24, 2016, 10:05:48 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on February 24, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on February 25, 2016, 09:03:54 AM
Completely agree. Elk are as difficult as women.
Yeah but the difference is i don't eat women. :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 25, 2016, 09:05:52 AM
Really? Really!?!!! Just gonna lob that one up there like that!?!! :chuckle:Completely agree. Elk are as difficult as women.
Yeah but the difference is i don't eat women. :chuckle:
Post by: deerslyr on February 25, 2016, 09:57:50 AM
I know many of us think we know all there is about elk hunting and elk habits ....Remember the definition of expert (ex = small ) (pert = small drip of water under pressure)... The one thing I can tell fellow hunters is just when you think you have elk figured out they will do something different. Over the years I can say being aggressive on elk has always paid off more than waiting ...my opinion is doing something is better than nothing . I know I've sat in camp at night and been driving crazy by not perusing particular bull or even cow . Keep the wind In your face and go for it ...That's what makes hunting elk so addictive !
I agree mostly with aggressive approach. I truly believe though every situation is different and it takes a lot of fine tuning when to know its going to pan out by being aggressive and when to hold back and wait for a better opportunity to arise. I feel that elk slayers have that finesse down and can just feel when a situation is gold or when its time to back out. The more elk I kill the more I can feel that finesse.
Post by: Elknut1 on February 26, 2016, 05:48:20 PM
I agree 100% with deerslyr!
ElkNut1
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on February 27, 2016, 08:37:58 AM
Post by: gonehuntin68 on February 28, 2016, 07:06:03 AM
I know many of us think we know all there is about elk hunting and elk habits ....Remember the definition of expert (ex = small ) (pert = small drip of water under pressure)... The one thing I can tell fellow hunters is just when you think you have elk figured out they will do something different. Over the years I can say being aggressive on elk has always paid off more than waiting ...my opinion is doing something is better than nothing . I know I've sat in camp at night and been driving crazy by not perusing particular bull or even cow . Keep the wind In your face and go for it ...That's what makes hunting elk so addictive !
100% agree. I'm pretty aggressive.
Post by: Todd_ID on February 28, 2016, 07:51:20 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 29, 2016, 09:40:40 AM
Yeah but the difference is i don't eat women. :chuckle:
[/quote] Really? Really!?!!! Just gonna lob that one up there like that!?!! :chuckle:
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:DOH:
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 29, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 29, 2016, 10:28:28 AM
i think that finesse or confidence helps as well. I have good friends that know they won't get one and so they don't really try. Every time I go into the woods during elk season I feel like it's going to happen or at least I feel like I'm going to do everything to try and make it happen. I think some people just have a FEEL for it.I know many of us think we know all there is about elk hunting and elk habits ....Remember the definition of expert (ex = small ) (pert = small drip of water under pressure)... The one thing I can tell fellow hunters is just when you think you have elk figured out they will do something different. Over the years I can say being aggressive on elk has always paid off more than waiting ...my opinion is doing something is better than nothing . I know I've sat in camp at night and been driving crazy by not perusing particular bull or even cow . Keep the wind In your face and go for it ...That's what makes hunting elk so addictive !
I agree mostly with aggressive approach. I truly believe though every situation is different and it takes a lot of fine tuning when to know its going to pan out by being aggressive and when to hold back and wait for a better opportunity to arise. I feel that elk slayers have that finesse down and can just feel when a situation is gold or when its time to back out. The more elk I kill the more I can feel that finesse.
Post by: notellumcreek on February 29, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
Post by: hoof rot on February 29, 2016, 12:27:27 PM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on March 01, 2016, 01:13:44 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 01, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
Post by: Elknut1 on March 01, 2016, 07:40:16 AM
One mistake many hunters make is assuming they can get aggressive with a bull who has cows. They assume he will automatically be defensive. This is not so in many cases, doesn't mean a hoot how good a reed or bugle you have or how good you are with it! If this bull does not have a cow in or nearing estrus then getting aggressive with him means little. But catch that same bull with a hot cow & now it's a game changer. When no hot cow is in the herd you must change strategies! This is just one small example but it's common to run into yearly!
ElkNut1
Post by: deerslyr on March 01, 2016, 07:58:29 AM
Coach, in a nutshell Reading The Situation is pretty much it! To some hunters those are just words but to those wanting to learn & better themselves in being successful elk hunters on a yearly basis they need to understand this facet! Reading it is one thing & Reading it correctly is another! (grin) Once a hunter can quickly assess what he's dealing with & the mood of the elk or a herd it will help in understanding if calling is needed or not & how aggressive one needs to be!
One mistake many hunters make is assuming they can get aggressive with a bull who has cows. They assume he will automatically be defensive. This is not so in many cases, doesn't mean a hoot how good a reed or bugle you have or how good you are with it! If this bull does not have a cow in or nearing estrus then getting aggressive with him means little. But catch that same bull with a hot cow & now it's a game changer. When no hot cow is in the herd you must change strategies! This is just one small example but it's common to run into yearly!
ElkNut1
Bingo! I started out as a caller and had a fair bit of success calling in bulls that were red hot. For the longest time I never understood how to hunt the bulls that would occasionally throw out locater bugles or bulls that bugled frequently, but not aggressively. Last year I hunted with a certified elk slayer that literally does not call at all. He has 7 bulls over 325 with a bow to his name, two of those bulls grossing 360 and 370. All public land OTC.
So I decided I would put my calls away and take some notes. His strategy is to just move in on bugles silently as bulls are cutting up. You have no idea how hard that is to do as a caller when bulls are screaming everywhere! Any how the first night we slipped in on two different herd bulls. The first one we got busted by a nice 5 point bull which I passed. The second one I drew back on a nice 6 point in a wallow but it got too dark for a shot. First thing the next morning we slipped in on the herd and I arrowed the 6 point from the night before. As I was packing that bull out my partner shot another 6 point. Not a single call was made other than a slight mew to stop my bull.
My point for sharing that story is there are many tactics to use. People get hung up on what they need to say, when in reality it might be best to not say a thing at all, and MUCH more effective than you would think. I am trying to become the most well rounded elk slayer there is. So by having calling and silent tactics in the bag, what ever situation presents itself, Ill be ready.
Post by: buglebrush on March 01, 2016, 08:56:38 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 01, 2016, 10:35:23 AM
Post by: hoof rot on March 01, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Post by: buglebrush on March 01, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
how many of u guys have been in a situation where u come up on a hunter froze up not knowing what to do when there are bulls bugling and fighting and the hunter just sits there waiting for a miracle, is it ok to get after them if he dosent? thoughts?
I would like to meet that kind of hunter. Usually meet the ones who go charging in squeezing their hoochie mamas with the wind totally wrong! :bash:
Post by: hoof rot on March 01, 2016, 03:56:27 PM
Post by: Elknut1 on March 02, 2016, 07:18:57 AM
What happens in other cases is you could still have a bull who is bugling but the terrain is so brushy & thick & possibly littered with downfall that slipping in silently is an impossibility! Yes the bull is bugling plenty for location but try getting to him quietly, you cannot. So another method must be considered to cover your noise as you go to him. The same is true if you are still 150 yards away from him & you need him to come to you because of openings or conditions not suitable for a killing stalk. In these cases a different type of aggressive action is needed!
Then you have those days, weeks of quiet elk, nothing talking, yes you can get aggressive but not careless in these less vocal/bugling times with calling! Drawing on an elk's curiosity at these times is very deadly but it's quite the opposite of slipping in silently on bugling bulls. Being versatile in mind & action will help to hunt elk no matter the phase of their rutting.
ElkNut1
Post by: coachcw on March 02, 2016, 07:50:20 AM
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