Post by: cowboycraig on March 13, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
But at 6 months now her energy and need to "get into things" is unstoppable.
At a point were we are training, playing, and or engaged 101% somehow or she needs to be in the crate for my sanity.
Is that natural? Bit of a puppy noob. Have had plenty of dogs form rescues but have never started at 8 weeks before.
Also any tips on "loving to nibble on hands & clothes etc would be well taken :chuckle:
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Post by: REHJWA on March 13, 2016, 11:42:21 PM
How much or how long depends on you and your dog....sometimes just a short time out is enough to reprimand, until diner is done, until guest leave.
It does not have to be in a create but i do believe creates work well. You can start with shutting the door and then progress to just a spot in the house as a lay down space. This also helps to in a boat or blind...
I have dog beds that I use as time out space. I make sure they have a toy or chew to help them out but when we say " kennel down" they know it means go to their beds and stay there. They have free range of the house but they like to get under our feet while cooking or when company is over (my parents don't like kisses :dunno:) then they get sent to time out.
Knowing their spot also gives them a "safe" place to go when the need to reprimanded for getting into something they shouldn't have....
I usually only give treats when they are on their beds to prevent begging....but also so time out space is a positive place to be.
Hope this helps.
Post by: Brad Harshman on March 14, 2016, 06:08:19 AM
Welcome to the world of labs....you are right about needing to have time outs.Agreed 100% our command word is "pillow." It's naturally a relaxing and positive space.
How much or how long depends on you and your dog....sometimes just a short time out is enough to reprimand, until diner is done, until guest leave.
It does not have to be in a create but i do believe creates work well. You can start with shutting the door and then progress to just a spot in the house as a lay down space. This also helps to in a boat or blind...
I have dog beds that I use as time out space. I make sure they have a toy or chew to help them out but when we say " kennel down" they know it means go to their beds and stay there. They have free range of the house but they like to get under our feet while cooking or when company is over (my parents don't like kisses :dunno:) then they get sent to time out.
Knowing their spot also gives them a "safe" place to go when the need to reprimanded for getting into something they shouldn't have....
I usually only give treats when they are on their beds to prevent begging....but also so time out space is a positive place to be.
Hope this helps.
Good luck!
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 15, 2016, 09:10:21 AM
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Post by: cowboycraig on March 15, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Craig
Post by: Mudman on March 15, 2016, 09:39:24 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on March 15, 2016, 09:52:09 PM
Crate time is training too.
They have to learn to ride in the crate when traveling to hunting areas. Sometimes quit a drive.
Not only is time in crate important in my opinion. Being quiet in the crate is important too.
For chewing ,I kept a basket on the floor full of safe chew toys. Both girls could help themselves. Often my first pup would empty the basket and sleep in it.
To this day I keep stuffed animal I buy a G sales. For my lab to carry and play with when we are chumming around. I take the toy away when she goes in kennel for the night. :twocents:
Post by: lokidog on March 16, 2016, 08:39:33 AM
Also as Mudman said, be sure the pup gets plenty of exercise. A pooped pup is a polite pup. ;)
As far as the biting, IMO, everyone in the house has to be on board with no mouthing/biting being allowed. My wife and I don't like it either so that was an easy one to agree on. When the pup starts to get mouthy, have something on hand to give them to chew. Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 16, 2016, 09:14:20 AM
Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
This is money. I've got a very stubborn alpha boy beagle who has finally given up on just biting harder while doing this :chuckle:
Post by: AspenBud on March 16, 2016, 11:09:45 AM
That said, it can be a double edged sword. A pup that spends too much time in there can often be a handful once let out. They can get frustrated and build up a lot of energy to burn without enough exercise and mental stimulation.
Having said that, sometimes you need a break, sometimes it's best to keep the pup crated at dinner time, and sometimes it's best to crate the pup to keep it out of trouble while you're not able to keep track of it (like when you go to the can, are at work, or go to bed). Just remember that the pup can't learn how to be a good house dog if you don't let it learn how to be one and keep it locked up all of the time.
I have a pup right now. I try not to set he or I up for failure. Case in point, if I try to let him sleep in our bedroom at night with our other dogs he won't settle down and I end up getting mad. Rather than yelling at the dog and potentially creating issues between he and I, I crate him instead. It's easier on the dog, easier on me, and doesn't lead to completely avoidable negative consequences that may impact us in the field. I want that dog to look to me with trust and work with me, not fear punishment from me.
Post by: SpringerFan on April 09, 2016, 04:04:15 PM
:yeah:
Also as Mudman said, be sure the pup gets plenty of exercise. A pooped pup is a polite pup. ;)
As far as the biting, IMO, everyone in the house has to be on board with no mouthing/biting being allowed. My wife and I don't like it either so that was an easy one to agree on. When the pup starts to get mouthy, have something on hand to give them to chew. Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
Sound advice here. Don't over train. A few retrieves. A few commands. Much praise. Then the kennel.
At the point a command is not being followed stop giving it. Get the pup and kennel. They will think about it.
Post by: notsosneaky on April 25, 2016, 08:55:43 PM
:yeah:
Also as Mudman said, be sure the pup gets plenty of exercise. A pooped pup is a polite pup. ;)
As far as the biting, IMO, everyone in the house has to be on board with no mouthing/biting being allowed. My wife and I don't like it either so that was an easy one to agree on. When the pup starts to get mouthy, have something on hand to give them to chew. Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
Sound advice here. Don't over train. A few retrieves. A few commands. Much praise. Then the kennel.
At the point a command is not being followed stop giving it. Get the pup and kennel. They will think about it.
Mostly agree with everyone above
My new lab is just about six months. Mouthing was bad but a friend suggested to let out a "Yelp" when she uses teeth. I thought it was stupid but I did it once and she immediately stopped so I kept doing it for a few days and she doesn't mouth anyone in the family after just a few days.
I was amazed it worked so I asked my friend about it and he said it's a natural thing they do with each other and they just need to know that humans are more fragile.
.02
Post by: SpringerFan on April 26, 2016, 05:58:34 PM
:yeah:
Also as Mudman said, be sure the pup gets plenty of exercise. A pooped pup is a polite pup. ;)
As far as the biting, IMO, everyone in the house has to be on board with no mouthing/biting being allowed. My wife and I don't like it either so that was an easy one to agree on. When the pup starts to get mouthy, have something on hand to give them to chew. Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
Sound advice here. Don't over train. A few retrieves. A few commands. Much praise. Then the kennel.
At the point a command is not being followed stop giving it. Get the pup and kennel. They will think about it.
Mostly agree with everyone above
My new lab is just about six months. Mouthing was bad but a friend suggested to let out a "Yelp" when she uses teeth. I thought it was stupid but I did it once and she immediately stopped so I kept doing it for a few days and she doesn't mouth anyone in the family after just a few days.
I was amazed it worked so I asked my friend about it and he said it's a natural thing they do with each other and they just need to know that humans are more fragile.
.02
I did the same thing. Worked well. Good add.
Post by: jjaba on May 04, 2016, 11:11:58 AM
Post by: lokidog on May 04, 2016, 11:51:36 PM
:yeah:
Also as Mudman said, be sure the pup gets plenty of exercise. A pooped pup is a polite pup. ;)
As far as the biting, IMO, everyone in the house has to be on board with no mouthing/biting being allowed. My wife and I don't like it either so that was an easy one to agree on. When the pup starts to get mouthy, have something on hand to give them to chew. Also, when biting hands, I grab the lower jaw and push the lower lips in over the lower teeth and just hold it relatively gently until the dog relaxes and doesn't want my hand in their mouth. This also provides bite feedback, the harder they bite on your hand, the more pressure on their own lips.
Sound advice here. Don't over train. A few retrieves. A few commands. Much praise. Then the kennel.
At the point a command is not being followed stop giving it. Get the pup and kennel. They will think about it.
Mostly agree with everyone above
My new lab is just about six months. Mouthing was bad but a friend suggested to let out a "Yelp" when she uses teeth. I thought it was stupid but I did it once and she immediately stopped so I kept doing it for a few days and she doesn't mouth anyone in the family after just a few days.
I was amazed it worked so I asked my friend about it and he said it's a natural thing they do with each other and they just need to know that humans are more fragile.
.02
I did the same thing. Worked well. Good add.
We yelp OW, because I figure that is the sound a kid, or adult, will make if the pup bites too hard and they are not part of our training scheme.