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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: WapitiTalk1 on March 28, 2016, 08:19:48 AM
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Sooo, what is the best elk hunting pack? For the purpose of this ultra-scientific question (grin), let's pretend that many of you/us are not already locked in to a particular brand that you/we have spent a ton of money on which we may have an association/certain loyalty to (double grin). Fast forward to this point in time and comment on which pack you feel is the best of the best for elk hunting features (construction/material, pack weight, load lifting functionality, ability to use as all-in-one pack system (pack camp in, compressed daypack configuration, ability to pack large quantities of meat out), system expansion features, hunter friendly gear pocket/compartment and lashing features, and price point/value if you wish to consider that, etc.
So, what' the best of the best out there for an elk hunt pack? I have my opinion/preference but am curious to hear what some of you cats think. Thanks for playing along. RJ
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I own a couple of packs, still interested in trying others. Not sure I have found the one pack that does everything the way I would like and fits me the best.
Overall I am ok with my daily pack and like the meat pack I have, but I will be tagging along to see what others have to say.
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I think that packs are like boats. Sometimes you need a canoe, sometimes you need a Thunderjet. I think that most get a 14' aluminum and make it work. Some have all of the above :chuckle:
I have a x2 and get by.
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I'm using a mystery ranch Metcalf and its everything I need out of a pack. The NICE frame is as tough as they come, and a meat hauling machine. I have the lift kit on mine for extra lift when hauling meat or heavy loads, and it makes a big difference, i get a ton of lift. I like tge fact i can unhook the main bag from the framr and it acts like a load sling where i can haul meat right on the frame between it and the bag. That leaves my main bag for gear. You can haul more weight than humanly possible that way :chuckle: With that said, if I buy again down the road, I will be buying a kifaru.
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I use Stone Glacier Sky Archer 6200ci ultra 4.68 pounds tough pack high load rating but yes they are pricy
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I have a Kifaru Highcamp 7000, an Exo 5200, and a Horn Hunter Full Curl, all are great packs, all have functional load lifters, all can be cinched down to almost non-existent when in day pack mode, and all are made in USA. The packs vary in cost with the Horn Hunter coming in least expensive, at about $300, the Exo at $575, and the Kifaru at about $675. The packs also vary in the ability to customize the layout by being able to add or remove extra pockets, with nearly zero on the Horn Hunter, a little on the Exo, and limitless on the Kifaru. As far as carrying weight, I feel that any of these packs would adequately handle 100 lbs, with the Exo and Kifaru doing it best and a slight edge to the Kifaru. So pack choice varies, depending on your hunting style, needs, and budget, but these are all good choices.
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I am a loyal Bullpac guy. I use the frame every time I head out always assuming I am going to come back loaded with something I or someone I am hunting with has shot. It always has a water bottle attachment, a 1/4 bag, Para cord and a very small bag that has my knives, first aid and snacks.
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I really like my Badlands Clutch Pack. It has a rifle butt pouch I can drop my bow cam into and straps to hold it down. The external straps also let you condense the bag tight enough that it is not sticking way out there catching on everything but it can open up to easily pack out a quarter on the first trip. Other than that... you cannot beat their warranty.
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I have a 2014 EXO and it is awesome, I like some of the tweaks they have made on the newer version so I would say that I would go with that. I have had way more than 100#'s in it and no complaints from me.
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LOVE my exo 3500.
great as a daypack, overnight pack, meat hauler, all in one.
Aside from the price difference from Kifaru, I loved how the exo was so "simple" in comparison (to me at least).
I understand kifaru is more of an "ala cart" type buying situation...but that also ends up bad for my wallet when I can upgrade too easily to more add ons :chuckle:
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I'm using a mystery ranch Metcalf and its everything I need out of a pack. The NICE frame is as tough as they come, and a meat hauling machine. I have the lift kit on mine for extra lift when hauling meat or heavy loads, and it makes a big difference, i get a ton of lift. I like tge fact i can unhook the main bag from the framr and it acts like a load sling where i can haul meat right on the frame between it and the bag. That leaves my main bag for gear. You can haul more weight than humanly possible that way :chuckle: With that said, if I buy again down the road, I will be buying a kifaru.
+1 on Mystery Ranch, I have a NICE frame and a Hi-Dice Bag. Also after a hunt you can unclip your bag from the frame and wash it in your washing machine. Makes clean up nice, I wash my camo and my bag together with scent away.
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I'm using a mystery ranch Metcalf and its everything I need out of a pack. The NICE frame is as tough as they come, and a meat hauling machine. I have the lift kit on mine for extra lift when hauling meat or heavy loads, and it makes a big difference, i get a ton of lift. I like tge fact i can unhook the main bag from the framr and it acts like a load sling where i can haul meat right on the frame between it and the bag. That leaves my main bag for gear. You can haul more weight than humanly possible that way :chuckle: With that said, if I buy again down the road, I will be buying a kifaru.
Im the same except for I'm running an MR CC and if I buy again it will be a Kifaru.
The best thing about Elk packs is there are more an more options every year and better and better packs. Maybe a topic for another thread but what packs were available 5 or 10 years ago... MR, Kifaru, Bull pacs... now look at what we have to choose from.
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For me it is the kifaru hunter frame with the dt1 bag.. Compresses down to perfect size for day hunts but also expands to haul a couple qtrs in one pack out along with gear... At least that's what I say now before using it to actually hauling an elk out.. Thought I had the perfect pack last year then realized that wasn't the case when hauling qtrs out..
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"Best" is a bit subjective. I've known Patrick for well over a decade, used to help organize rendezvous(pl?) here in the Northwest, and it has been a pleasure to watch Kifaru grow into one of the (if not the) dominant hunting (and military) pack and shelter companies in the market. Clearly, my objectivity has a smattering of bias, but they make a damn fine pack. :)
Back to subjectivity, I've worn a Mystery Ranch NICE frame with a very moderate load and while it was a very high quality pack, I felt really warm in it. The Stone Glacier, though nice and light was not at all comfortable under load. Same goes for the KUIU packs. A lot of this is going to come down to your body type, personal fit & feel, and what you intend to do with them. They are all perfectly fine at 35-45 lbs. Throw a hundred pounds in them and it will become very obvious which one you'll prefer.
I've been running Kifaru packs for many years, utilizing a Kifaru Longhunter G2 in foliage for most of them. I never saw the need to go over 5200 cu. in. However, I wanted a slightly bigger bag and a much larger lid (for all the little stuff) and spotting scope/tripod management. So, I made the switch last year to a new multi-cam DT1 with Guide Lid, two Nalgene water bottle holders, a medium belt pouch and a Sat phone pouch for hunting. Awesome, awesome rig that will likely continue doing everything I want/need it to for years to come.
I just remembered I've got a brand new Kifaru Siwash G2 sitting in a box under my gear rack. It's the hunting equivalent of the military Navigator and doesn't have all the PALS webbing. I thought about saving it for my wife to use, but she will never wear out her Arcteryx Bora 80. If someone wants it, make me an offer. Oh, that's the other thing about Kifaru packs and shelters is that they tend to hold their value really well.
Best regards,
Allen
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I'm using a mystery ranch Metcalf and its everything I need out of a pack. The NICE frame is as tough as they come, and a meat hauling machine. I have the lift kit on mine for extra lift when hauling meat or heavy loads, and it makes a big difference, i get a ton of lift. I like tge fact i can unhook the main bag from the framr and it acts like a load sling where i can haul meat right on the frame between it and the bag. That leaves my main bag for gear. You can haul more weight than humanly possible that way :chuckle: With that said, if I buy again down the road, I will be buying a kifaru.
+1 on Mystery Ranch, I have a NICE frame and a Hi-Dice Bag. Also after a hunt you can unclip your bag from the frame and wash it in your washing machine. Makes clean up nice, I wash my camo and my bag together with scent away.
Mystery Ranch Metcalf is on camofire right now for $360, if anyone is interested.
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Stone glacier sky series.
It has the space to haul multiple nights gear
Meat shelf for hauling out your kill in addition to your gear.
Does not break the bank
Hauls more than humanly possible
Lighter design than other high end packs
Best feature, can be modified down to a day pack by removing the lid and adjusting your top straps.
Www.stoneglacier.com
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I've had two Kifaru's Now I have a Exo 5500 .Its just about perfect for me the price was reasonable and Steve offers excellent customer service.I highly recommend them.
Tim
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I have used a few different packs over the years but now use a Kifaru. Started with a g1 siwash then picked up a bikini frame with a highcamp 4800 and a t2 bag. Also bought a duplex frame to try out. The bt2 combo is my go to pack. Light, comfortable and will pack elk quarters with no problem. Will probably set the duplex frame up to be a meat hauling pack.
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tagging
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well i'll be the one to toss in the lulu lemon brand..
kuiu icon pro works fine for me, although carrying over 70 lbs after 5 miles does start irritate my hip bones. Weight stays off my shoulders though.
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All of the companies that make packs in USA are pretty good. Kifaru, Mystery Ranch, Blacks Creek.
Tenzing and Badlands make decent packs but they are made over seas.
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I love this topic, as I love hunting gear, especially backpacks!!
This is really going to vary depending on the type of hunting you do ie. day, multi-day, tree stand, ect. but as far as a general best all around hunting backpack goes, it is the Mystery Ranch Metcalf. I've tested a ton of backpacks throughout the years, this one will be with me for many, many years.
Here is why:
1. Mystery Ranch is a great company, made in the USA, it is costly, but it will last a lifetime and the folks at Mystery Ranch are very helpful and generous.
2. NICE FRAME! with load lifters!!! This frame is BOMB proof, it might be a little heavier than a Kuiu frame, but I guarantee you this frame is going to carry anything you put on it comfortably.
A. Hip pads, and padded belt! the hip belt system has 3 parts, padded lumbar, Hip pads and padded belt.
3. Metcalf bag: This is a fairly simple bag design, but will get anywhere you need to go, day pack to 7 day back country hunt. 1 side pocket, a hydration bladder and one huge storage area with 2 access points, a top draw string and a side zip pocket which allows you to access your gear easily.
The bag has a meat shelf that is attached to the frame, the shelf is positioned higher so you can carry heavy loads and keep your back feeling great!!!
Conclusion, you wont be disappointed, I can assure you, that you will be happy!
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Mystery ranch at least most of their hunting line is made in the Philippines now..
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Mystery ranch at least most of their hunting line is made in the Philippines now..
Wow I just went on their website and saw that their stuff is now imported. Thats really sad. A good reason not to support their business anymore.
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Like my kuiu ultra but upgraded to icon pro suspension today with their 25% off sale. $93 figured why not gives my a spare too...
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One that looks like this one.
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One that looks like this one.
That is a awesome pic! :tup:
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Mystery ranch at least most of their hunting line is made in the Philippines now..
It is true that they moved their hunting packs overseas but on the plus side local shops will be carrying the product so we will have an opportunity to fit and test packs before buying them.
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Mystery ranch at least most of their hunting line is made in the Philippines now..
Also, I wouldn't call the NICE frame completely bomb proof. The velcro on the yolk can get gunked up and will slip under heavy loads. I know a few folks that have had this issue.
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Mystery ranch at least most of their hunting line is made in the Philippines now..
Also, I wouldn't call the NICE frame completely bomb proof. The velcro on the yolk can get gunked up and will slip under heavy loads. I know a few folks that have had this issue.
:yeah: the Velcro can fill up with pine needles and slip. I clean mine out periodically
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The new Kifaru duplex frame is pretty limitless. If just looking for a day hunting pack then there are cheaper options.
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Got the EXO 3500 last year right after some grueling packs in the early season. Then, when I had the new pack, my late season archery muley died 40 yards from a ranch road, so no pack needed. So, all I can tell you is it packs day trip stuff nicely and is comfortable. Feels like it will pack a load well.
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I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with the new Kifaru frame. Went on a 4.3 mile hike yesterday with my son. He got tired for the second half so he got to ride on the frame/shoulders for the return trip.
50 lb bag of sand, and 40 lb son...
Really wasn't bad at all...
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I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with the new Kifaru frame. Went on a 4.3 mile hike yesterday with my son. He got tired for the second half so he got to ride on the frame/shoulders for the return trip.
50 lb bag of sand, and 40 lb son...
Really wasn't bad at all...
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Look at ur sons grin "Dad fell for the 'I'm Tired story again !" Hehe
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:yeah: :chuckle:
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The new Kifaru duplex frame is pretty limitless. If just looking for a day hunting pack then there are cheaper options.
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The new Duplex hunting frame from Kifaru. Unbelievably comfortable and packs a load extremely well.
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Exo 5500
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Lots of solid pack recommendations folks, thanks for chiming in. I'm sure a lot of it comes down to a multitude of factors but for me, the EXO Mountain Gear 3500 has got to be the best thing I've ever had the pleasure of owning. So many good features, it's hard to list them all ;) . I just ordered the 5500 bag (which incidentally, fits the same frame as the 3500) to round out my EXO assault gear. If you're browsing for a new elk pack, certainly give the EXO line up it's due diligence.
http://exomountaingear.com/
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Lots of solid pack recommendations folks, thanks for chiming in. I'm sure a lot of it comes down to a multitude of factors but for me, the EXO Mountain Gear 3500 has got to be the best thing I've ever had the pleasure of owning. So many good features, it's hard to list them all ;) .. just ordered the 5500 bag (which incidentally, fits the same frame as the 3500) to round out my EXO assault gear. If you're browsing for a new elk pack, certainly give the EXO line up it's due diligence.
http://exomountaingear.com/
First off I love that this thread was started. I have been wanting a new pack for a while now but have had no idea what is good quality. I just really am looking for a day pack that will hold my gear for the day and also pack out as much weight as i can put on it. Im liking the look of that EXO 3500. Looks very comfortable. Ill check out the kifaru packs as well. Which kifaru would work best for a good day pack but carry a elk quarter + comfortably? Kifaru seems like they have all sorts of things to put on it so I gues im asking what would be best in your opinion.
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Any of you fellows have anything to say about the Argali bag from kifaru? .
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I run a Kifaru set up, AMR bag on a hunter Duplex frame. Kifaru definitely has the best frame in the business in my eyes, but I don't think any one bag is "perfect". There are many features I wish could be combined into one bag from several different manufacturers.
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MountainWalk, the Argali bag is pretty similar to my 7000ci Highcamp, just a big cavernous bag. I love my Highcamp, can fit a LOT of stuff in it, but it easily compresses down to almost nothing when needed. Plenty of webbing on the outside to hang an array of pockets from to customize to your preferences.
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For me the "perfect" pack doesn't exist yet. It would be as light as a Kuiu ultra, as comfortable as a Kifaru duplex, as compressible/expandable as Kifaru AMR, as waterproof as a dry bag, as quiet as an Eberle BW, Kifaru durable, with the organization of a high end backpacking pack thrown in "just cuz". Oh and I want customizable camo options at no extra charge. AND I want to buy all this for less than a badlands.
Of my criteria Kifaru filled the most. I have well over a 100 days on it now and am still completely satisfied.
Shopping for a 2016 pack to add to the arsenal, I have looked at the new TAHR bag with ultralight frame to pull duty as a day pack. If kifaru had a quieter material it would be a no brainer, even at the sacrifice of a little weight. But many of my day hunts are on the westside for rosies or blacktails and noise is a bigger issue it seems. The fleece type materials companies like Badlands and Eberle use have an edge IME and so the 2016 search continues.
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For me the "perfect" pack doesn't exist yet. It would be as light as a Kuiu ultra, as comfortable as a Kifaru duplex, as compressible/expandable as Kifaru AMR, as waterproof as a dry bag, as quiet as an Eberle BW, Kifaru durable, with the organization of a high end backpacking pack thrown in "just cuz". Oh and I want customizable camo options at no extra charge. AND I want to buy all this for less than a badlands.
Of my criteria Kifaru filled the most. I have well over a 100 days on it now and am still completely satisfied.
Shopping for a 2016 pack to add to the arsenal, I have looked at the new TAHR bag with ultralight frame to pull duty as a day pack. If kifaru had a quieter material it would be a no brainer, even at the sacrifice of a little weight. But many of my day hunts are on the westside for rosies or blacktails and noise is a bigger issue it seems. The fleece type materials companies like Badlands and Eberle use have an edge IME and so the 2016 search continues.
Pretty much my thoughts as well...I'm going to have an upholstery shop build me in my eyes the perfect bag for the kifaru duplex....the design is ever on going but almost there !
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I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with the new Kifaru frame. Went on a 4.3 mile hike yesterday with my son. He got tired for the second half so he got to ride on the frame/shoulders for the return trip.
50 lb bag of sand, and 40 lb son...
Really wasn't bad at all...
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Jacked.
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best pack? duplex frame and kuiu ico pro bag.
I've had a duplex frame + DT2 bag before. Kifaru is nearly indestructible, but heavy. think my pack weighed over 8 lbs.
Kuiu's latest carbon fiber frame and Icon Pro Bags hold their own.
I own four kuiu bags and enjoy pack+frame's overall lighter wait, the cost savings, and the ability to switch out bags for day hunts, 2-3 hunts, and week long hunts.
Though after about 4-5 miles of 90 lbs in my pack, the lumbar pad seems to lose function, and I feel the weight digging into my sacrum.
Maybe i'll switch back one day, but for now I'm good with the kuiu.
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This is an awesome thread! I’ve been doing a lot of personal research for a future purchase. All the advice here will help out a lot.
Last season I kept it simple. Sometimes basic is best. This year will be my second year hunting since high school so I’m a little light on all the high speed hunting gear and can’t always justify a $500+ pack.
Last season I experimented a bit between a hand-me-down ACU MOLLIE 2 rucksack and a Kelty 80L. Both were simplistic and cheap or free. The Kelty didn’t offer a ridged frame like most load bearing packs but I was able to pack all the essential gear in and out. I also kept a garage sale special Cabelas Frame in the rig just in case I got a kill, it’s more than capable of carrying 80+ pounds. The ACU rucksack was ridged and had one main compartment large enough to stuff 100+ pounds inside. Never tested either packs' full potential outside of random weighted stints around the park with the kids.
If I had the money though I’d definitely get a Kifaru! Had the chance to try one of these babies on and I was more than impressed.
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Bringing this one back from the dead.
I am torn between the Exo 5500 and the Kifaru Hunting frame with the Duplex bag. Price wise they are the same, weight wise the Exo is almost a full lb lighter.
Can anybody that has used both weigh in on which one they like better and why?
TIA
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I personally don't think you could go wrong with either. I have tried on both packs but haven't put on any sort of miles so I couldn't give you any field experience. Some guys like running Exo bags on kifaru frames. They seem to match up pretty well
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Don't buy the kifaru because it will lead to more kifaru purchases.. I have had both and I prefer the kifaru over the Exo.. Kifaru belt better and for me the materials and buckles are better quality than Exo.. Also the kifaru you can get 26" frame which the Exo is only 25" which was a need for me.. Kifaru is more comfortable with large loads 100 plus than Exo from my experience due to belt, shoulder straps and foam along with lumbar pad.. I didn't have this years version which some of that stuff has been changed.. Both good packs and most likely will be happy with either.
Bringing this one back from the dead.
I am torn between the Exo 5500 and the Kifaru Hunting frame with the Duplex bag. Price wise they are the same, weight wise the Exo is almost a full lb lighter.
Can anybody that has used both weigh in on which one they like better and why?
TIA
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Exo here, and couldn't be happier! Packs are like boots what fits me perfectly may not fit you. Used mine for a kid carrier with the meat shelf over the weekend.
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Exo here, and couldn't be happier! Packs are like boots what fits me perfectly may not fit you. Used mine for a kid carrier with the meat shelf over the weekend.
That is awesome! Great sales pitch lol
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Don't buy the kifaru because it will lead to more kifaru purchases.. I have had both and I prefer the kifaru over the Exo.. Kifaru belt better and for me the materials and buckles are better quality than Exo.. Also the kifaru you can get 26" frame which the Exo is only 25" which was a need for me.. Kifaru is more comfortable with large loads 100 plus than Exo from my experience due to belt, shoulder straps and foam along with lumbar pad.. I didn't have this years version which some of that stuff has been changed.. Both good packs and most likely will be happy with either.
Bringing this one back from the dead.
I am torn between the Exo 5500 and the Kifaru Hunting frame with the Duplex bag. Price wise they are the same, weight wise the Exo is almost a full lb lighter.
Can anybody that has used both weigh in on which one they like better and why?
TIA
Thank you,
That was more or less what I was looking for. My buddy just picked up an EXO so I will at least get to try that one on before I buy.
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I personally don't think you could go wrong with either. I have tried on both packs but haven't put on any sort of miles so I couldn't give you any field experience. Some guys like running Exo bags on kifaru frames. They seem to match up pretty well
HMMMM. Everything I have read leads me to believe the Kifaru frame is better, but I like the layout of the Exo bag. That is definitely worth looking into.
Thanks.
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Exo hands down
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what about a good ol hiking backpack? a buddy of mine pointed out an Osprey volt 75. it is a hiking pack but I figure that it looks the same, so why wouldn't it act the same as a hunting pack? because of all the fancy pockets and the meat shelf that some have? im just curious because..,... baller on a budget
-Dustin
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what about a good ol hiking backpack? a buddy of mine pointed out an Osprey volt 75. it is a hiking pack but I figure that it looks the same, so why wouldn't it act the same as a hunting pack? because of all the fancy pockets and the meat shelf that some have? im just curious because..,... baller on a budget
-Dustin
Hiking pack will do just as well as the cheaper hunting packs. Load 100#'s in it, and you will really see a difference.
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I was trying to get him to explain how much your could carry with it.. his answer.. 75 quarts. (the size of the bag). I won't go that route,. I'll go something that's proven to work.
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Most of the hunting packs have the ability to load meat behind the bag, against the frame. The hiking packs do not have this option.
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what about a good ol hiking backpack? a buddy of mine pointed out an Osprey volt 75. it is a hiking pack but I figure that it looks the same, so why wouldn't it act the same as a hunting pack? because of all the fancy pockets and the meat shelf that some have? im just curious because..,... baller on a budget
-Dustin
Hiking pack will do just as well as the cheaper hunting packs. Load 100#'s in it, and you will really see a difference.
There's no question that Kifaru, Stone Glacier, EXO, MR, etc all make great packs for hunters. But my God! The price tag is a major hurdle for some (largely due to the difference between US labor and sweatshop labor I suspect). As I've been following this thread, I remembered this quote from Justinc (I haven't figured out how to copy the entire link, but if you search Stone Glacier, you'll find it):
A little background for those who don't know me. I have been backpack hunting for a little more than ten years now. I was lucky when I started out, and chose an Arc'teryx Bora as my first pack. That pack served me well for quite a few years, and I still think they are a great option for people getting into the sport. For the last several years, I have been partnered with Kifaru and recommend their packs to anyone seeking a top quality pack. After using most their frames, and a lot of their bags, I really can't say enough about the quality, and customer service. Just about everyone I hunt with has made the switch after trying one of mine.
Stone Glacier is also known for making top of the line hunting packs, and I have been curious how they compare to Kifaru, which I consider the benchmark for top quality gear. This year, they came out with the Sky Talus 6900 which caught my eye since it has a lot of the features I like in a pack, and is very lightweight. Kurt sent me a Sky Talus to test this year, and I will be posting my thoughts, and honest feedback, along with a bunch of pictures on this thread
Just saying, one doesn't need "the best pack money can buy" to get out and hunt/hike the backcountry.
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Hard to say which is the best since everybody has different hunting styles. My fave is the Kifaru hunting frame with the Rambler bag. Really like the layout and the frame is one of the best if not the best on the market.
As for regular packs not dedicated for hunting, we have used those in the past also and they work great. My favorite scouting pack is an Osprey Aether. For actually hunting I like the Arc'Teryx bora 80. Solid pack that can handle the weight. When it comes to putting meat in the bag or sandwiching it between bag and frame there are pros and cons to both.
If the meat is in the bag you might get you bag bloody and/or some gear bloody. If the meat is sandwiched you might get your bag bloody and/or some gear bloody and your gear bag is going to be further from your back trying to pull you over backwards depending on how much gear you have.
The main negative I see with hunting packs now days that are durable and can haul a real load is they are loud. I always try to drop my pack but it's not always possible.
Regards, Branden
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I have a cheap pack currently (no frame other than alum rod in spine) It might get me out with loins/straps, but not much more likely, hpefully a nice Elk rack as well. I currently load it to 30# and after 3 mile march the straps are doing a job on the shoulders. I also have a freightliner frame only that stays in camp, but also on the cheap side without the adjustments to really load well.
These top tier bags are really nice, I have tried on Phantom's Exo and that thing is incredible. But the $tag, as much or more than a good bow or rifle are just beyond what many of us can jump at. $330 for frame or $550 bare pack, plus then all the extras you need to really make it complete.. There is always the used market of course, but that is hit or miss.
So the question is, are there any midrange packs with frame out there? Something more in the $200 area pack&frame that get the job done, good belt, load lift straps etc?
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I think we may all be talking about different things since the thread revived. The thread started with the question " What is the best elk hunting pack?". In response to that it is definitely Exo, Kifaru, etc...
Now, can you hunt with a cheapo pack? Sure! I hunted for years with a day pack that had no frame at all, and then went in with my Kelty to get the meat out. If you can't afford the top packs don't let that keep you home! However, I would've saved so much money in the long run to buy one of the " best" packs right away. " Buy once, cry once "
Carry on... :tup:
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I think we may all be talking about different things since the thread revived. The thread started with the question " What is the best elk hunting pack?". In response to that it is definitely Exo, Kifaru, etc...
Now, can you hunt with a cheapo pack? Sure! I hunted for years with a day pack that had no frame at all, and then went in with my Kelty to get the meat out. If you can't afford the top packs don't let that keep you home! However, I would've saved so much money in the long run to buy one of the " best" packs right away. " Buy once, cry once "
Carry on... :tup:
Very true it is talking best pack. I just caught the last few posts and not the original thread purpose. That EXO pack is a mighty nice pack for sure. I tried a friends pack out and had a 165# spider monkey hanging off of it and the load was well set on hips and not pulling me over. Pack comfort wise the pack was great, and I could forsee hauling 100# in it without issues beyond my own physical ability to haul extra weight.
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didn't mean to drag it off topic, :sry: :sry: I was just curious as to what the comparisons were. one of these days I will have a fancy pack, ill just settle for my standard issue mountain bag till then
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My first elk hunting trip i had day gear packed in my school backpack/bookbag. I hauled out quarters slung over my shoulder twice, before a guy in an atv got permission from a wdfw officer to head down the hill and help me. It sucked, but i was so excited to get an elk on my first hunt that i didn't feel the pain until the following day.
After that trip i bought an eberlestock j34. Awesome day pack but sucked for heavy loads. Then got a rei xt85. Not a great day pack, but now i could carry heavy loads comfortably. Then i got a kifaru hunting frame with a dt1 bag. A little too tall for a comfortable day pack, but absolutely amazing when loaded heavy. Just recently bought a used kifaru late season. The best day pack ever, but can still carry a load of meat.
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Long story short, if backpacking in for animals, and you can financially swing it, buy one of the top end packs. They are that much better. If you can't afford them, buy a large backpack from a reputable hiking company. For a daypack, anything can work. However, the top end companies really are better.
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My first elk hunting trip i had day gear packed in my school backpack/bookbag. I hauled out quarters slung over my shoulder twice, before a guy in an atv got permission from a wdfw officer to head down the hill and help me. It sucked, but i was so excited to get an elk on my first hunt that i didn't feel the pain until the following day.
After that trip i bought an eberlestock j34. Awesome day pack but sucked for heavy loads. Then got a rei xt85. Not a great day pack, but now i could carry heavy loads comfortably. Then i got a kifaru hunting frame with a dt1 bag. A little too tall for a comfortable day pack, but absolutely amazing when loaded heavy. Just recently bought a used kifaru late season. The best day pack ever, but can still carry a load of meat.
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this is really helpful, I think I would suck it up for my first elk if I didn't have an appropriate pack. do most people use a different pack for a one day vs 5 day hunt ? or just buy a bigger pack that shrinks down?
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At 70 and gaining age,I still use a Vietnam era pack frame with a daypack tied on it..When I make a kill I take off the daypack.Then bone out the quarters,however I still have to carry the dayback + my 50 yr old rem .06,back to the truck. not to mention the extra 45 lbs or so..
My kids don't hunt, The last pack out was very steep with deadfalls, I had to make three trip's.
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The big packs compress to nothing. But they are still tall. Alot of people use them as daypacks. I prefer a shorter pack for day hunts.
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All this knowledge for a flat lander like me. Good to expand ones knowledge. Who knew a pack could make such a difference
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At 70 and gaining age,I still use a Vietnam era pack frame with a daypack tied on it..When I make a kill I take off the daypack.Then bone out the quarters,however I still have to carry the dayback + my 50 yr old rem .06,back to the truck. not to mention the extra 45 lbs or so..
My kids don't hunt, The last pack out was very steep with deadfalls, I had to make three trip's.
Awesome :tup: I can only hope at 70 I can pack out my elk. We will know in another 17 years!
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I drew a quality elk tag this year so I purchased a pack that I can pack meat with too. I decided on the Badlands 2200. It's a very comfortable pack, I've packed up to 70 lbs 2 miles so far. It has enough adjustments that I stay comfortable with heavy loads.
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I drew a quality elk tag this year so I purchased a pack that I can pack meat with too. I decided on the Badlands 2200. It's a very comfortable pack, I've packed up to 70 lbs 2 miles so far. It has enough adjustments that I stay comfortable with heavy loads.
congrats on pulling a tag and good luck on your hunt!
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I mentioned it earlier in this thread that the perfect pack doesn't exist. I should have added the "best" will depend on a variety of factors only the individual will know. Ultimately it shouldn't be a cause of worry or stress. Especially for newer hunters. That goes for any equipment. Many on here have used and waded through a myriad of pack options on their journey as an elk hunter. That knowledge can be very useful. But it can also be confusing and lead newer hunters to come to the conclusion that somehow an 800 kifaru will be magic cure. Its not. And it may even be a hindrance depending YOUR individual situation. Get what makes you happy. Be ready to make improvements. Hit the elk woods and start a journey. Maybe you will be lucky and get the best pack on your first purchase. Maybe it will take 3 packs, 5 packs, a dozen. Who knows. Who cares. If your still in the hunt after that many season your doing something right.
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I'll be hunting with a daypack but for packing meat; I'm kicking it old school again this year.
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I'll be hunting with a daypack but for packing meat; I'm kicking it old school again this year.
That is awesome, 1995 was the last time I used one of those. Went to a Bullpac after that and never looked backed. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.
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Love my Exo 3500. Ive used it for day trips and for weeklong back country hunts. Super versatile and very comfortable. Lifetime warranty and made in america is also a plus for me. Also when you call for anything Steve the owner almost always answers.
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My son and i both have EXO 3500 we bought this year. Not been put to the test yet thou
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What are peoples thoughts on the Eberlestock "Just one" J107? I tried one on and it felt like it had good belt and loading on to hips, but until you get 80#+ of meat loaded you just never know... The pack sure seemed to have quite a bit of expandability, pockets, panels to be quite versatile.
What do some of you taller gents like to use, I recall hearing that some packs do not work well for taller folks. (6'4")
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Put two elk front-quarters in the bag and it did awesome. I'm pretty sure it was over 80 lbs. I'm 6'6".
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I agree with many of the comments that you need multiple packs...
I have just a meat pack which is the Bullpac... It is comfortable and I only use it to haul mean AFTER the kill.
My day pack has been a crooked horn outfitters pack for years. It has a zip pack for my spotting scope. Has loops for tripod and enough room for rain gear and such.
My big pack pack is only for rifle hunting and it has a built in scabbard.
My back packing pack is hammered and needs to be replaced with a nice Kelty.
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I love my J107. Been using it for three years now and dnt have any complaints
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No love for Seek Outside on here! I love my pack. I've had it for a couple years now and run the revolution suspension and have a variety of different pack bags I use now depending on what I'm doing. Super modular. Can also be used without a pack bag, just as a freighter or meat hauler as well. Super comfortable suspension/frame and capable of handling heavy loads extremely well. For those not familiar, I definitely recommend checking out. All made in USA.
But as with others have said, to each their own. Like your own boots, you just have find what works best for you. Lots of great companies out there these days.