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Title: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: usmc74 on April 18, 2016, 06:09:01 PM
Why do they screw Muzzy hunters by moving the deer and elk hunting into 1 week.  I hunt totally different areas for each.  I can't pull my bow any more, I will hunt muzzy for elk, so no muzzy deer.  No need to buy the tag.

If it was still 1 week for deer, and a different week for elk, then game on.....

WDFW, you lost a tag purchase
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: The scout on April 18, 2016, 06:12:05 PM
thanks for applying. so those of us who didn't draw and would have bought it can't use it
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: chester on April 18, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Buy it August 1


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Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 18, 2016, 06:13:38 PM
Why do they screw Muzzy hunters by moving the deer and elk hunting into 1 week.  I hunt totally different areas for each.  I can't pull my bow any more, I will hunt muzzy for elk, so no muzzy deer.  No need to buy the tag.

If it was still 1 week for deer, and a different week for elk, then game on.....

WDFW, you lost a tag purchase

so if you chose not to buy it, don't they sell them to the unsuccessful applicant's?

If so you really didn't hurt them.

I'm sure someone else is willing to play 3 card Monte.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: grundy53 on April 18, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
Buy it August 1


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That doesn't help if you wanted to put in for special permits in different hunting methods.

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Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: The scout on April 18, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
oh yea! we can go to a seller first thing when they start sellin them in hopes to get one. for some it's about putting in for more options in the draws not hunting all the general seasons
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Oh Mah on April 18, 2016, 07:09:48 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


                                 sounds the same don't it?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: The scout on April 18, 2016, 07:20:16 PM
really?? exacly the same :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: 2labs on April 18, 2016, 07:43:34 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


Oh Mah, you can legally shoot a Blacktail in you front yard, right now! Quite screwing with white guys!

                                 sounds the same don't it?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Mfowl on April 18, 2016, 07:45:59 PM
I think the OP meant that he is not buying a ML deer tag due to early general muzzy deer and elk seasons running concurrently. I too am a muzzy hunter and have been bitten by these seasons. I focus on elk and where I hunt is tough for deer opportunity. Outside of special permit apps my ML deer tag has never done me any good. Never even fired my ML at a deer. However I do feel the pain of some in this thread as I too did not get an MS deer tag which I would've bought before the draws. If needed I will buy one over the counter when they are available.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Bango skank on April 18, 2016, 07:48:54 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


                                 sounds the same don't it?

Thats not how the lotto works
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Bob33 on April 18, 2016, 07:51:03 PM
Thankfully tentative season dates are available in early February, well before the MS application deadkine. They don't work for everyone but demand is greater than supply.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: grundy53 on April 18, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
Thankfully tentative season dates are available in early February, well before the MS application deadkine. They don't work for everyone but demand is greater than supply.
:yeah: in fact you can look up next years dates already.

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Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: splitshot on April 18, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
   the game regs should come out like 2 months earlier.  before the multi stuff is due.     mike w
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: SCRUBS on April 18, 2016, 09:19:26 PM
thanks for applying. so those of us who didn't draw and would have bought it can't use it

So, the op is supposed to look out for you and other hunters? He doesn`t owe any of us anything, he did what was best for him and good on him for doing so :tup:
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: usmc74 on April 18, 2016, 09:22:40 PM
Last year, season was the same as this year.  Last year I didn't draw MS deer.  I bought the tag near the end of August.  It was a waste of money then (for the same reason as now).  My vent was to the WDFW that I am done with sh**ty seasons.  I am not going to give them their extra $$$ so I can camp on some suck mountain somewhere, and not see anything.  My buddies hunt Idaho, and I may just go there this year.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: The scout on April 18, 2016, 09:27:46 PM
thanks for applying. so those of us who didn't draw and would have bought it can't use it

So, the op is supposed to look out for you and other hunters? He doesn`t owe any of us anything, he did what was best for him and good on him for doing so :tup:




for sure! it's not like you can look at the dates of the upcoming season :rolleyes: I'm done. I can't talk to you seriously without cussing or name calling. I think the op made an honest mistake because he didn't no this years dates were available before the draw
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: ghosthunter on April 18, 2016, 09:28:00 PM
Why do they screw Muzzy hunters by moving the deer and elk hunting into 1 week.  I hunt totally different areas for each.  I can't pull my bow any more, I will hunt muzzy for elk, so no muzzy deer.  No need to buy the tag.

If it was still 1 week for deer, and a different week for elk, then game on.....

WDFW, you lost a tag purchase

Yeah I was going to buy a muzzy tag ,camp at elk area and drive for deer. Two weeks. Last year they burnt us. I think to move the bow season later. The bow hunters are louder than the muzzy guys.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Bango skank on April 18, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
Why do they screw Muzzy hunters by moving the deer and elk hunting into 1 week.  I hunt totally different areas for each.  I can't pull my bow any more, I will hunt muzzy for elk, so no muzzy deer.  No need to buy the tag.

If it was still 1 week for deer, and a different week for elk, then game on.....

WDFW, you lost a tag purchase

Yeah I was going to buy a muzzy tag ,camp at elk area and drive for deer. Two weeks. Last year they burnt us. I think to move the bow season later. The bow hunters are louder than the muzzy guys.

Theyre louder because there are a lot more of them.  Smallest user group gets the smallest piece of the pie
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Oh Mah on April 18, 2016, 11:31:50 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


Oh Mah, you can legally shoot a Blacktail in you front yard, right now! Quite screwing with white guys!

                                 sounds the same don't it?
you lost me at (quite)
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Oh Mah on April 18, 2016, 11:43:28 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


                                 sounds the same don't it?

That's not how the lotto works
Your right i didn't realize that until just now.Not a good example at all.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: adamR on April 19, 2016, 11:37:46 AM
It amazes me that people can be upset at someone for not buying a tag, who gives a crap?  Get over it!!!

I, after applying for 8 years, finally drew multi elk and because of that most likely won't be buying the multi deer tag that I was also drawn for.  Basically, I don't want to fork out that much money.  If I choose to not buy it you have your option to buy it later.  Sorry the drawn system screwed you but if me and the op decide not to buy our tags we have that choice.  Welcome to life, it's not fair...
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Oh Mah on April 19, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
The op has a valid point that seems to be escaping some on here,The fact that we all put in for these tags before the new regs come out every year does change some minds when they do come out.I will be buying my tag but for those that decide not to  :dunno: seems like its your right to me.  :twocents:


 IF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY DIDN'T BUY THE LOTTO TICKETS MY ODDS WOULD BE BETTER.


Oh Mah, you can legally shoot a Blacktail in you front yard, right now! Quite screwing with white guys!

                                 sounds the same don't it?
Where do you get the idea that i can kill a Black tail deer in my front yard?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: usmc74 on April 19, 2016, 05:51:09 PM
I've had elk and blacktail and bear in my front and back yard.  Had a 5 pt bull in my driveway during archery season.

I hunt elk westside, and mule deer eastside
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: PA BEN on April 21, 2016, 05:14:38 AM
Hasn't ML deer and elk season been the same time for years now?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2016, 06:46:43 AM

Hasn't ML deer and elk season been the same time for years now?

It used to be the same, then it wasn't, but now it is again.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 21, 2016, 06:57:55 AM
I'm still unsure if the OP means that he's not buying ML Deer or MS Deer, as the thread title indicates.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2016, 07:06:10 AM
Get Conservation Northwest outta the WDFW and things MIGHT change.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 21, 2016, 07:44:15 AM
I still do not understand why you put in for it  :dunno: not that you owe me an explanation

Since you knew the seasons before applying and knew that you didn't consider it a good deal...why not just put in for the point for when you might be able to archery hunt too?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: usmc74 on April 23, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
Last year was the first time I have seen it (been muzzy hunting the last 4-5 years)

Before, it was 1 week hunting muleys, and then 1 week western elk for me.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2016, 12:32:27 PM
Last year was the first time I have seen it (been muzzy hunting the last 4-5 years)

Before, it was 1 week hunting muleys, and then 1 week western elk for me.

You thread title says "MS" deer. Did you mean ML?
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: usmc74 on April 23, 2016, 08:48:20 PM
Not buying the multi-season deer
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2016, 07:42:26 AM
I guess it does seem odd that someone would put in for it and then not buy it when selected. :dunno:
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: bobcat on April 25, 2016, 09:41:25 AM
I guess it does seem odd that someone would put in for it and then not buy it when selected. :dunno:

I don't think it's odd at all, in general, but in this case, yes, I have to wonder why a person would apply, knowing at the time that it wasn't something he was willing to spend the money on.

I've applied for multi-season deer every year, except this year, and I never did buy it. I just wanted to keep the option open until after the special permit results were available.
Title: Re: Not buying the MS deer
Post by: grade-creek-rd on April 25, 2016, 02:25:38 PM
Two things to point out here...yes, he has the right to not buy the tag after seeing the Regs...I get that, but as a hunter with two boys (10 & 12) who also hunt and neither of us drew the MS deer tag it does suck to lose out the chance of putting in for different draws, the second point to make is that really it's WDFW fault...as they should make the purchase deadline May 1st, then sell the left over MS tags on a "first come, first serve" basis and if you purchase it before the permit deadline then you can apply for the multiple season's special permits...why wait until August 1st? We all know when the permit deadline is and we all buy our tags before the deadline anyway...keep the MS left over's available until sold out but make the initial deadline purchase be before the special permit deadline! (common sense if you ask me!)

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