Post by: Bigshooter on April 22, 2016, 05:06:26 PM
Thanks
Post by: quadrafire on May 31, 2016, 12:11:50 PM
Maybe not a lot of juicers on HuntWa :dunno:
Post by: NW-GSP on May 31, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on May 31, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
I went through tons of carrots, beets, collards, ginger, etc. back in the day. I did far more vegetables than fruits. Not going to lie, sometimes it was downright disgusting, and there's a lot of washing and chopping of vegetables involved, but I never felt so healthy in my whole life. You can literally get an entire days serving of vegetables in one glass. :tup:
Post by: ctwiggs1 on May 31, 2016, 01:47:19 PM
Typically I try to keep mine more veggie than fruit. I'm less worried about the flavor than I am about making sure I am actually keeping healthy.
Foods I try to incorporate often: kale, greens, chia, blueberries, small bits of ginger, banana, carrot....
I try to avoid super fruity drinks because they are way high in sugar and don't give me near the amount of vitamin content (as I understand it) that veggie-strong juices offer.
Post by: Bean Counter on May 31, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
I may also be worth studying the pH and chemistry of what you're mixing. If you're doing oranges and lemons along with certain high alkali veggies (greens), you may in effect be neutralizing an acid and a base. This took me a bit of time to get over, since the samples at Costco are always sweet and tasty, and when juicing at home it was usually pretty chalky, green tasting veggie juice.
Post by: runamuk on May 31, 2016, 02:22:47 PM
Personally I prefer to just eat my greens but I eat salads almost daily.
Post by: Bigshooter on June 01, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
Post by: quadrafire on June 01, 2016, 07:56:05 AM
Buying a juicer is one of the worst decisions that I have ever made in my life. :bash: It is all I can do to not puke when drinking any vegetable juice, no matter how much fruit juice I add to it. So I have stopped juicing vegetables. And now I only juice a small glass of fruit juice for breakfast now.LOL
Wasn't going to rain on your parade, but we had one at one time. A pain in the butt. Couldn't believe the amt of veggies it takes to make a small amt of juice. Does make good compost with the waste though.
Post by: T Pearce on June 02, 2016, 09:04:40 PM
I see a major margarita mixing operation while celebrating the new patio.
I know, not a juicer.... sorry
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 03, 2016, 06:55:04 AM
I think I'm going to start juicing. I'm losing weight for a surgery and want to keep going after that. There's already some good tip here. I'm interested in the observation about the acids and alkalies from BC. So what if they neutralize each other? Does that mean it's less nutritional? What's the negative or benefit of this?
Post by: runamuk on June 03, 2016, 07:15:14 AM
I saw the title and thought this had something to do with A-Rod. :dunno:The negative I could see is the canceling of absorption of some nutrients due to the neutralizing effect. Often foods are acid or alkaline and the aminos and other properties require that for absorption. So take away the acid in ascorbic acid lose the vitamin c yes rose hips are acidic. A lot of people say do not take calcium at the same time you take vitamin c as they cancel each other out and you may as well just drink a glass of water. Its sort of like that. Figure out what nutrition you are trying to get out of juicing then find the foods that boost that.
I think I'm going to start juicing. I'm losing weight for a surgery and want to keep going after that. There's already some good tip here. I'm interested in the observation about the acids and alkalies from BC. So what if they neutralize each other? Does that mean it's less nutritional? What's the negative or benefit of this?
Post by: magnanimous_j on June 03, 2016, 07:58:05 AM
Post by: Special T on June 03, 2016, 10:30:17 AM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 03, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
We also had a juicer at one time, got it as a Christmas present. Didn't really care for juiced veggies and it ate fruit by the bushels just to make a quart of juice.
Post by: WAnoob on June 03, 2016, 10:43:52 AM
Post by: Curly on June 03, 2016, 11:00:00 AM
:tup:
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 03, 2016, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: Special T on June 03, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on June 03, 2016, 12:39:03 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on June 03, 2016, 01:23:59 PM
From a health standpoint, blenders are better than juicers. A lot of the nutrition in produce is in the parts that the juicer removes. We got a vitamix as a wedding present and I absolutely love it.
There's two sides to this coin. Yes, a blender will retain the pulp and some nutrients that don't readily extract from the pulp and that should not be discounted. On the other hand a masticating juicer literally chews the living daylights out of the veggies, usually finer than the blender type. Some earlier models of masticating juicers extracted the pulp by default but many brands allow you to add some or all of the pulp back. Also, the centripital (blender type) juicers tend to create heat, this may or may not be what you want with temperture sensitive nutrients.
https://www.juicingbook.com/centrifugal-masticating-juicers
Post by: Bean Counter on June 03, 2016, 01:51:28 PM
I saw the title and thought this had something to do with A-Rod. :dunno:The negative I could see is the canceling of absorption of some nutrients due to the neutralizing effect. Often foods are acid or alkaline and the aminos and other properties require that for absorption. So take away the acid in ascorbic acid lose the vitamin c yes rose hips are acidic. A lot of people say do not take calcium at the same time you take vitamin c as they cancel each other out and you may as well just drink a glass of water. Its sort of like that. Figure out what nutrition you are trying to get out of juicing then find the foods that boost that.
I think I'm going to start juicing. I'm losing weight for a surgery and want to keep going after that. There's already some good tip here. I'm interested in the observation about the acids and alkalies from BC. So what if they neutralize each other? Does that mean it's less nutritional? What's the negative or benefit of this?
:yeah:
I'd recommend seeing a nutritionist if your insurance covers it and if not, getting a well reviewed book or two on the subject. IIRC lemons and oranges were two of the biggest offenders given their high acidity. That's not to say that they aren't great nutritionally on their own merit, just that there's folly in adding them to those dark healthy greens like collards, kale, and what not. In fact lemons are supposedly great to add to iced tea for a few reasons: they help reduce oxalate formations (that can cause kidney stones) and some of the antioxidants in tea are more absorbable in the presence of the lemon juice. I think the book I read said that you should wait at least a half hour before consuming one after the other (a glass of veggie juice and a glass of fruit juice), so that they don't mix too high in the digestive tract.
I have more bad news: you really should juice right before you consume. Think of what an apple or banana looks chopped up after an hour, and multiply that times 1,000x. Go have some fresh squeezed orange juice and compare it to a glass from the supermarket. Even if you refrigerate, there's a lot of breaking down that takes place after the juicing process. This is incredibly inconvenient. Now, you have to wash all the veggies and fruits, juice them, clean the dammed machine, and you can't even store a good amount for later.
Juicing, even for a short term, could be very effective in cleaning out (detoxing) your GI tract to amp up your digestive process if you've clogged it for decades with processed food and simple carbs. Again, see a nutritionist. To be honest there's probably easier ways to lose weight if that's all you're after. My motivation to juice was all about wanting to kick the living hell out of cancer, atherosclerosis, and other disease processes BEFORE they rear their ugly head in your life. I am high strung :dunno:
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 03, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
I can't believe I didn't get at least a rise out of my A-Rod comment. What, are you guys all Yankee fans? :chuckle:
Post by: Bean Counter on June 03, 2016, 02:27:58 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 03, 2016, 02:32:39 PM