Post by: Bennick16 on April 30, 2016, 02:16:40 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 30, 2016, 02:40:59 AM
Post by: Bennick16 on April 30, 2016, 03:25:52 AM
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Post by: Firedogg on April 30, 2016, 10:45:49 PM
Can you get away with less? Sure, but the results will be frustrating unless you are really experienced with photography and how to get the most out of the equipment.
Those commercials that show the mom getting "Sports Illustrated" quality shots of little Johnny playing football from the stands are one of the biggest commercial lies trying to sell cameras.
Post by: huntnphool on April 30, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
It's not cheap to get a good camera to consistently get good wildlife action shots. You need a camera that focuses quick and a lens that will gather light in less than ideal conditions. At a minimum you are looking at one of the mid range sub pro bodies running near $1500, then at least a 100-400mm 4.5-5.6 lens, another $1500 plus. Even that set up is a compromise between cost and quality.
Can you get away with less? Sure, but the results will be frustrating unless you are really experienced with photography and how to get the most out of the equipment.
Those commercials that show the mom getting "Sports Illustrated" quality shots of little Johnny playing football from the stands are one of the biggest commercial lies trying to sell cameras.
On a budget I'd look on Craigslist for a used Canon 40D and Canon 70-200mm f4 IS, you can get a lot done with those two pieces and be under $1500. :twocents:
Post by: Thorny on May 01, 2016, 07:14:00 AM
It's a mirrorless camera that has a lot of the bells and whistles of the top end DSLRs in a decent price. This is not a point and shoot, and a lot of pros are going to the Sony's. Also, they're small in size, not in features. So you won't need a truck to carry the brick, and you still have a plethora of lenses to choose from.
If you're in the south end check out Robi's camera, and I even heard Costco is carrying them.
Post by: Bennick16 on May 01, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J34YO92/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1462135209&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=dslr+camera&dpPl=1&dpID=51M-BtvEWAL&ref=plSrch
Would would work well.
Post by: Bennick16 on May 01, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Sony Alpha a6000 Black Interchangeable Lens Camera with 16-50mm and 55-210mm Sony E-Mo... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FH6O0/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_UOMjxbEQJVW7M
I do like the photos in the review section
Post by: Thorny on May 01, 2016, 02:02:13 PM
I could get this if I sold a lot more of my walleye lures
Sony Alpha a6000 Black Interchangeable Lens Camera with 16-50mm and 55-210mm Sony E-Mo... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FH6O0/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_UOMjxbEQJVW7M
I do like the photos in the review section
Beware of some of the Amazon deals because some of their deals are refurbished cameras.
Also YouTube Sony a6000. There is a lot of info on it. We have one, and my wife prefers using that to our heavy Nikon DSLR because how light, fast, and the options it has.
Post by: Smossy on May 01, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
Waterproof, Shockproof, Dustproof, Lifeproof. Can withstand 220lbs of direct weight so if you manage to roll around on it stalking game your not gonna hurt it.
I got one similar for my mom. Works great and takes good enough photos with enough resolution to be able to sacrifice the zoom to an extend, you just crop your photos. 16 mp and its small enough to go right into your pocket.
Post by: Bean Counter on May 01, 2016, 03:24:37 PM
Haha oh... Crap. Yeah I can't afford three months rent for a camera. I guess I'll be sticking with my IPhone. I guess I was under the wrong impression that something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J34YO92/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1462135209&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=dslr+camera&dpPl=1&dpID=51M-BtvEWAL&ref=plSrch
Would would work well.
There ain't no shame in that T5. Unfortunately that telephoto lens doesn't have image stabilization so you're going to have to use really high ISOs at dawn and dusk in order to use a fast enough shutter speed to avoid camera shake at 300mm, which has 480mm equivelent field of view due to the 1.6x crop factor. You'll want 1/500sec or faster. That's not a problem in the midday, but your images will look very grainy/noisy in low light. I would try to find a similar package with IS on the tele end, not the midrange zoom.
If you want, you could save even more money by walking the model back to a t3i and just grab one used zoom lens on Craigslist. I'm sure a 75-300mm IS will pop up sooner or later and that shouldn't run you Just remember to get you a good weather coat like the one I linked. Neither the camera body nor the lens are weather sealed. The 7d and 7dII are the only cameras by Canon outside the expensive 1D series that are weather sealed. Even my 5d Mark III, which I paid $2,000 for the body only a year ago, has some weather sealing on it, but isn't weather sealed. It has seen some light rain at a gig and did fine with a weather sealed lens, but after that I bought the camera condom.
Gary Fong is all over YouBoob making noise about Sony but I've yet to come across a wedding photog that uses one. Granted they make the best sensors in the business right now. Nikon has Sony making their sensors. Mirrorless cameras (regardless of manufacturer) have a deplorable battery life, and while AF and response has come along way, it still isn't as precise as a DSLR.
Post by: Bennick16 on May 01, 2016, 03:49:24 PM
Haha oh... Crap. Yeah I can't afford three months rent for a camera. I guess I'll be sticking with my IPhone. I guess I was under the wrong impression that something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J34YO92/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1462135209&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=dslr+camera&dpPl=1&dpID=51M-BtvEWAL&ref=plSrch
Would would work well.
There ain't no shame in that T5. Unfortunately that telephoto lens doesn't have image stabilization so you're going to have to use really high ISOs at dawn and dusk in order to use a fast enough shutter speed to avoid camera shake at 300mm, which has 480mm equivelent field of view due to the 1.6x crop factor. You'll want 1/500sec or faster. That's not a problem in the midday, but your images will look very grainy/noisy in low light. I would try to find a similar package with IS on the tele end, not the midrange zoom.
If you want, you could save even more money by walking the model back to a t3i and just grab one used zoom lens on Craigslist. I'm sure a 75-300mm IS will pop up sooner or later and that shouldn't run you Just remember to get you a good weather coat like the one I linked. Neither the camera body nor the lens are weather sealed. The 7d and 7dII are the only cameras by Canon outside the expensive 1D series that are weather sealed. Even my 5d Mark III, which I paid $2,000 for the body only a year ago, has some weather sealing on it, but isn't weather sealed. It has seen some light rain at a gig and did fine with a weather sealed lens, but after that I bought the camera condom.
Gary Fong is all over YouBoob making noise about Sony but I've yet to come across a wedding photog that uses one. Granted they make the best sensors in the business right now. Nikon has Sony making their sensors. Mirrorless cameras (regardless of manufacturer) have a deplorable battery life, and while AF and response has come along way, it still isn't as precise as a DSLR.
http://moseslake.craigslist.org/ele/5558680269.html
Opinions?
Post by: Bean Counter on May 01, 2016, 06:37:12 PM
You can always email him and confirm whether the longer lens is image stabilized or not. If it is, should be good for at least two stops at the longer end so instead of 1/500 you could shoot 1/125, which is fast enough to freeze docile movement of a deer or elk as long as they ain't running. Ergo that could mean shooting at ISO 1,600 instead of 6,400. Much cleaner image.
Do your own web search and you'll find tons of resources on how to evaluate the condition of a used dslr. Don't forget to check the sensor. Basically point it at a white wall and focus to infinity or point it at a clear blue sky and focus close. Stop te aperture down to max and shoot for a few seconds with the Is off. Upload the image and pump the contrast and you can see how much crud is on the sensor. If it's enough to bother you then you're looking at another $50ish to get it cleaned unless you have big testicles and want to attempt it yourself.
With my spastic fingers that's a colossally :bdid:
Post by: Bean Counter on May 01, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: Bill W on May 01, 2016, 08:07:54 PM
If you want to see my D7000 let me know.
Post by: Bennick16 on May 01, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
If'n it was me I'd get a Coolpix camera and call it good. I have a D7000 as I wanted to use my lenses from the film era when I had a N90S. The Coolpix take as good a picture and are cheaper and lighter than the D7000. I do have some recommendations among the Coolpix family.
If you want to see my D7000 let me know.
What's your asking price on that one Bill? What lenses?
Post by: Bill W on May 02, 2016, 08:38:20 AM
There are features available on the D7000 that aren't on the Coolpix but unless one is a camera geek those features aren't needed (or probably ever used).
Post by: Tbob on May 03, 2016, 05:22:28 AM