Post by: Samish on May 04, 2016, 05:57:35 AM
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sport-fishermen-protesting-in-la-conner-on-wednesday-as-tribal-gill-net-salmon-fishery-gets-underway/
Post by: SpringerFan on May 04, 2016, 06:20:42 AM
It is time to look at changing the treaty. The tribes are abusing what the intent was. To provide food.
Hell, since they have tax free casinos why do they need to fish? And they should be taxed.
It is disgusting to see them take advantage like this. Very sad. :twocents: :bash:
Post by: jackmaster on May 04, 2016, 06:35:11 AM
Post by: Special T on May 04, 2016, 06:46:52 AM
I think what is necessary here is some good video documentary of what is going on showing that gill nets are killing wild fish while everything else is closed. Time to paint a clear picture of how different sport fishing and netting is.
Post by: Bullkllr on May 04, 2016, 07:08:18 AM
Puget Sound Anglers has a "Voter Voice" that goes out to multiple elected officials.
https://www.votervoice.net/PSA/campaigns/46262/respond (https://www.votervoice.net/PSA/campaigns/46262/respond)
It's something. The "stand back and let our managers take care of it" approach is clearly not working.
Post by: krout81 on May 04, 2016, 07:13:17 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on May 04, 2016, 07:36:10 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 04, 2016, 07:42:12 AM
So if the Swinomish tribe turned their permit app into the NOAA last week and they will be fishing this weekend, why doesn't WDFW do the same? I am assuming that WDFW is doing a blanket permit for the entire Puget Sound, maybe smaller, single run impact permits would be faster?they can from what I've heard, but the permit will come back long after the salmon run through. The tribes get special attention, you know, because they are special and more important than the non natives.
Post by: Bronson on May 04, 2016, 07:42:27 AM
If the state did the same thing they would get sued yet again by the WFC. The state doing this very thing is pretty much what the state was sued over the hateries for in the first place.
This information is just a summary of what I usage been reading on another board, not my knowledge or information.
Post by: mfswallace on May 07, 2016, 10:00:16 AM
Thank you for writing to me regarding the state of salmon fisheries in Puget Sound. It was good to hear from you.
Salmon recovery is one of the most complex and pressing environmental issues in our region. Many salmon populations have steadily declined in recent decades, placing significant strain on industries that have traditionally supported our area's economy, and a number of individual salmon populations in the Pacific Northwest are currently listed as endangered or threatened under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Salmon play a critical role in coastal ecosystems, and are a key symbol of our heritage in Washington state. Balancing the welfare of these populations with important economic considerations of the region has been an ongoing challenge for local and national leaders for decades.
Salmon fisheries in Puget Sound are jointly managed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and the treaty Indian fishing tribes in Puget Sound. Under the 1974 United States v. Washington court decision, commonly referred to as the Boldt Decision, it was upheld that these treaty Native American tribes in the state of Washington have treaty-protected rights that collectively entitles them to half of all harvestable salmon in the region and that the state and the tribes are co-managers of the salmon resource. For decades, the treaty fishing tribes and WDFW have worked collaboratively each year to reach an agreement setting Puget Sound fishing seasons for recreational, commercial, and tribal fisheries based on best available science regarding expected salmon returns.
Due to disagreements over how to respond to the anticipated low returns for several Puget Sound ESA-listed salmon stocks, fishery co-managers were unable to come to an agreement for the 2016 fishing season. As a result, on May 1, 2016, salmon fisheries in Puget Sound were closed to most fishing, with exceptions for some tribal fishing. Please know that I am monitoring this situation closely. I continue to encourage both parties to come to a solution that meets salmon conservation goals while allowing recreational, commercial, and tribal fisheries to open for 2016.
Throughout my Senate tenure, I have made the protection and restoration of Northwest salmon populations a priority. Through my work on the Appropriations Committee, I work annually to secure funds critical to Pacific salmon recovery for Washington state and our state's Native American tribes through the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund and other accounts dedicated to salmon recovery and management. As the Senate works on the Fiscal Year 2017 appropriations bills, I will continue to fight for the highest possible funding level for this critical program.
Post by: Alpine Mojo on May 07, 2016, 10:28:48 AM
I am monitoring this situation closely.
Gee...thanks Patty, I knew we could count on you.
Post by: mfswallace on May 07, 2016, 11:03:02 AM
Post by: jackmaster on May 07, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
Post by: Badhabit on May 07, 2016, 05:44:23 PM
Post by: renrutbocaj on May 14, 2016, 10:05:21 PM
Post by: bod on May 14, 2016, 11:22:08 PM
Post by: huntnphool on May 15, 2016, 01:00:31 AM
Many people are relying too much on rumors and things heard on forums and running with that. And also lumping "the tribes" as one group, there are 20 different tribes with different areas and comanagement plans. I would call a representative of either a tribe or WDFW to get your questions answered rather than taking the word of "joe b low". Just my :twocents:....
How about directly from the horses ass/mouth http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,195410.msg2590126.html#msg2590126 pay attention Jabob.
Post by: renrutbocaj on May 15, 2016, 07:20:36 AM
How about directly from the horses ass/mouth http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,195410.msg2590126.html#msg2590126 pay attention Jabob.
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Well the horses ass that you are talking about said zero words during any of those meetings. I know Director Unsworth is a wildlife guy from Idaho, but his lack of communication during that process was embarassing. He sat there with his arms crossed during every comanager meeting and let the minions do the talking. There are more words in that statement (that he probably didnt write) then he had said throughout this entire process. The WDFW is lacking in leadership and i think everyobe knows it (look at the lack of/delay in decisions with the wolf problems)... but when the tribes are involved there is somebody to through all the blame at. It takes two to Tango right?
Post by: lokidog on May 15, 2016, 10:08:14 AM
How about directly from the horses ass/mouth http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,195410.msg2590126.html#msg2590126 pay attention Jabob.
Well the horses ass that you are talking about said zero words during any of those meetings. I know Director Unsworth is a wildlife guy from Idaho, but his lack of communication during that process was embarassing. He sat there with his arms crossed during every comanager meeting and let the minions do the talking. There are more words in that statement (that he probably didnt write) then he had said throughout this entire process. The WDFW is lacking in leadership and i think everyobe knows it (look at the lack of/delay in decisions with the wolf problems)... but when the tribes are involved there is somebody to through all the blame at. It takes two to Tango right?
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But it only takes one side to fish for "their" fish while the other side gets nothing! :bash:
Post by: AhrensNW on May 16, 2016, 12:23:25 AM
The natives abuse their rights it's a in your face thing just like Obama does to us caucasians.I hope this is satire, otherwise you are an idiot.
Post by: fish vacuum on May 16, 2016, 12:29:07 AM
How about directly from the horses ass/mouth http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,195410.msg2590126.html#msg2590126 pay attention Jabob.
Well the horses ass that you are talking about said zero words during any of those meetings. I know Director Unsworth is a wildlife guy from Idaho, but his lack of communication during that process was embarassing. He sat there with his arms crossed during every comanager meeting and let the minions do the talking. There are more words in that statement (that he probably didnt write) then he had said throughout this entire process. The WDFW is lacking in leadership and i think everyobe knows it (look at the lack of/delay in decisions with the wolf problems)... but when the tribes are involved there is somebody to through all the blame at. It takes two to Tango right?
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And what would you expect him to say when the Puyallups and Muckleshoots offer a poop sandwich? He said "no deal" and I'm quite alright with that.
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Post by: autopilot70 on May 19, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
The tribes are getting some good size ones so far.
Post by: mfswallace on May 19, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
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The tribes are getting some good size ones so far.
Where are all the small ones they left to rot?
Post by: singleshot12 on May 20, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
We could literally move mountains if we worked together, such a shame.
Post by: James on May 20, 2016, 12:33:13 PM
Ron has a good explanation of the situation on bloody decks.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/looks-like-round-3-didnt-work-either.625475/page-4#post-4093057
Post by: Ripper on May 20, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on May 20, 2016, 01:59:40 PM
They don't have a NOAA permit, they have a letter from BIA, not sure if that is legal or not, and from what I hear WDFW isnt sure either.
Ron has a good explanation of the situation on bloody decks.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/looks-like-round-3-didnt-work-either.625475/page-4#post-4093057
Good link. I think Ron is spot on. We need more like him to keep the wheel turning in the right direction.
Post by: James on May 20, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Good link. I think Ron is spot on. We need more like him to keep the wheel turning in the right direction.
Join PSA (if you aren't already a member), Ron is our commander at the moment, and we couldn't ask for a better one. PSA is fighting the good fight, but we need all the help we can get, and you sound like a good one to have in our ranks.
http://www.pugetsoundanglers.org/